Corner forward problem

Burke15

If a corner back is trying to pull you out the field, as in he's almost up between the 45 - 60 yard line, are you expected to follow him or stay in your position? I play hurling for my club and its been an annoying problem for me. I usually move across to the other corner to make it hard for my marker, but if the ball comes down into the corner where I was, it looks terrible with me standing over the other side of the pitch. Do I follow or do I stay around the 21 yard line hoping that I'm picked out?

68Murph68

Thats something that depends on the team's tactics, how good the corner back is, and how a game is going.

Why do you switch sides as opposed to staying free in your own corner?

Talk to your manager and team mates.

At the very least if you are free in space let them know they should be aware of it and should send quick ball your way.

Burke15

68Murph68 wrote: »

Thats something that depends on the team's tactics, how good the corner back is, and how a game is going.

Why do you switch sides as opposed to staying free in your own corner?

Talk to your manager and team mates.

At the very least if you are free in space let them know they should be aware of it and should send quick ball your way.

I move across to lose him completely, annoy him by making him then move across or come back to the 21 yard line. Ive yet to say it to mgt or team mates as it happened last night in a challenge game.

68Murph68

Burke15 wrote: »

I move across to lose him completely, annoy him by making him then move across or come back to the 21 yard line. Ive yet to say it to mgt or team mates as it happened last night in a challenge game.

Ah that's clearer.

Generally I'd say that as a corner forward you should hold your position and let him roam. This is the best rule of thumb. If you feel uncomfortable about it say to the manager that you are going to keep your position and let the corner-back roam. The chances are as corner-forward you are going to do way more damage being in the correct position than you are going to do out the field following a corner back around the place. If you get quick ball in you should at the least get a scoring chance out of it. I cant imagine any opposing manager being too pleased with a corner-back who's abandoning his man and and wandering out the field.

Overall it really is something that should be covered in terms of team tactics - in terms of what's the overall team strategy, what to do if the team is leading, what to do if the team is behind, what's the teams' overall defensive and offensive strategy?

What age/level is it? Depending on the age/level the amount of tactical/strategic play can vary hugely.

Also as a corner-forward you should talk to your manager and team-mate about switching with the other corner-forward. By rights a corner-forward should be able to switch sides without too much difficulty. This can be a good advantage for the team if you and the other corner-forward switch sides. Corner-backs hate not knowing who is their man and switching up like this can lead to getting space.

Orizio

Really only the sideline can tell you. Personally if I was in the corner I would have followed my man wherever unless management told me otherwise.

Burke15

68Murph68 wrote: »

Ah that's clearer.

Generally I'd say that as a corner forward you should hold your position and let him roam. This is the best rule of thumb. If you feel uncomfortable about it say to the manager that you are going to keep your position and let the corner-back roam. The chances are as corner-forward you are going to do way more damage being in the correct position than you are going to do out the field following a corner back around the place. If you get quick ball in you should at the least get a scoring chance out of it. I cant imagine any opposing manager being too pleased with a corner-back who's abandoning his man and and wandering out the field.

Overall it really is something that should be covered in terms of team tactics - in terms of what's the overall team strategy, what to do if the team is leading, what to do if the team is behind, what's the teams' overall defensive and offensive strategy?

What age/level is it? Depending on the age/level the amount of tactical/strategic play can vary hugely.

Also as a corner-forward you should talk to your manager and team-mate about switching with the other corner-forward. By rights a corner-forward should be able to switch sides without too much difficulty. This can be a good advantage for the team if you and the other corner-forward switch sides. Corner-backs hate not knowing who is their man and switching up like this can lead to getting space.

Its senior level i'm playing at. So the standard is very high. Its my first year playing it (only up from minor) so i'm just trying to get a feel for it. Its a lot different from minor, as in minor most corner backs will stand goal side of you. I'm not used to this business of a back trying to pull me out of my position. Team & mgt appear to be fine with corner forwards swapping only problem was this back followed me and repeated this carry on of moving up to the 40.

Burke15

Orizio wrote: »

Really only the sideline can tell you. Personally if I was in the corner I would have followed my man wherever unless management told me otherwise.

Thats exactly what I did, but the crowd up watching it didn't seem to approve of me going up that far with balls flying over my head only for the full back to come across and clear the line.

68Murph68

Orizio wrote: »

Really only the sideline can tell you. Personally if I was in the corner I would have followed my man wherever unless management told me otherwise.

Burke15 wrote: »

Its senior level i'm playing at. So the standard is very high. Its my first year playing it (only up from minor) so i'm just trying to get a feel for it. Its a lot different from minor, as in minor most corner backs will stand goal side of you. I'm not used to this business of a back trying to pull me out of my position. Team & mgt appear to be fine with corner forwards swapping only problem was this back followed me and repeated this carry on of moving up to the 40.

My point of view is that a corner-forward is there primarily to score and the corner-back is there primarily to stop him. My theory as a corner-forward would be you play the game on your terms (basically do what is best in terms of maximising your ability to score as opposed to doing your best to negate the influence of the corner-back) I'm not saying that you never follow him out the field but that your emphasis should be on scoring.

My opinion might be slightly off-the-mark as I'm coming from a football background and the whole game with sticks thing scares me
but I'd still say keep your position. A forward's job is making the back worry about him.

Anyway if the management isnt happy about it I'm sure they'll let you know before long.

bruschi

stay up forward, but absolutely make sure your half back and midfield know the craic. keep it away from him and launch it long to you. wont be long about coming back to mark you. make sure your half forward line are aware of it too and split marking duties and cover space and limit his influence.

Jimminy Mc Fukhead

Burke15 wrote: »

I usually move across to the other corner

Surely your guys should be moving away from you if anything.
Leaving you in a lot of space.

howiya

Jimminy Mc Fukhead wrote: »

Surely your guys should be moving away from you if anything.
Leaving you in a lot of space.

Agreed. Get isolated in the space. You've already said your team were hitting the ball in there. Punish the corner back for leaving you free

Burke15

howiya wrote: »

Agreed. Get isolated in the space. You've already said your team were hitting the ball in there. Punish the corner back for leaving you free

But does it not look bad if i'm not spotted and theres my marker clearing balls for the craic up at the 45 and me standing on the 21? Our teams strategy seems to be aim for the full forward (He's 6'5) and us corner forwards rely on breaks as opposed to directly picking out a man in the corner.

Bizzum

Puck a few scores and you'll have his full attention.

You need clear direction from managenent.

grenache

I wish I had your luxury OP when I played corner forward. Stay in the corner, look for the ball and pop a few points. You'll have a 3 v 2 situation in there so it's to your benefit that you stay around the '21.

rebel girl 15

Burke15, no one here can really give you a definite answer because none of us were at the game. You management should really have picked up on this after a few minutes and given you instructions as to where to play, and how it fits around the tactics the team are currently employing

Junior D

I play corner-back and I really can't understand him moving that far away and leaving you on your own.

Corner back should be tight as possible to the forward playing at least shoulder to shoulder or preferably in front.

If he's giving you that much space, exploit it. Roam around a bit and get on the ball as much as possible. Considering you'd be free within about 20 yards of him, you should have enough time to control the ball and tap it over.

kildare9

Junior D wrote: »

I play corner-back and I really can't understand him moving that far away and leaving you on your own.

Corner back should be tight as possible to the forward playing at least shoulder to shoulder or preferably in front.

If he's giving you that much space, exploit it. Roam around a bit and get on the ball as much as possible. Considering you'd be free within about 20 yards of him, you should have enough time to control the ball and tap it over.

I've never played corner back, always been midfield for my club. I can never understand why corner backs play in front of their markers. All he has to do is move to the side and make his runs, surely standing shoulder to shoulder with your man gives you as a back a lot better chance of winning ball. I would never be comfortable with my marker behind me, at least when i'm shoulder to shoulder its always 50/50

Junior D

kildare9 wrote: »

I've never played corner back, always been midfield for my club. I can never understand why corner backs play in front of their markers. All he has to do is move to the side and make his runs, surely standing shoulder to shoulder with your man gives you as a back a lot better chance of winning ball. I would never be comfortable with my marker behind me, at least when i'm shoulder to shoulder its always 50/50

At corner back, most balls that you'd be competing for are likely to be coming in low instead of in behind the defender/attacker. Most balls that that go behind will probably end up going out over the line.

Most important thing is stopping the attacker getting the ball into his hands, so if yer out in front to the ball you'll have a way better chance of doing that.

But you do have to be aware when yer doing it. Theres no point in standing out in front and not keeping an eye on where the attacker is moving. Thats where things like body-checking come into play

Donnielighto

wait in the FF line. The onus is on a cornerback to mark the corner forward, the only time there should be any question of whether or not the pair of ye are in the corner is if the corner forward comes out to play a sweeper role.

leave him off up the pitch, the difference in damage between havin a free man in space in the forwards vs centre of the pitch should be hugely in favour of the free forward.

jamesobrienDCU

I was answering a question re corner forward / corner back.
I played in this position for many years.
Why do you assume I am a spammer?