Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Hi there,
There is an issue with role permissions that is being worked on at the moment.
If you are having trouble with access or permissions on regional forums please post here to get access: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058365403/you-do-not-have-permission-for-that#latest

Irish History Timeline

  • 26-07-2012 11:27pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭


    Hey all,

    I'm just looking for a timeline of the events during Ireland's fight for independence.

    Something from 1900-1960's...

    I was asked a question on where I stood on some issues and I wasn't able to give an answer as I(to my shame) had forgot a lot of my Irish history. I'm looking to gain knowledge of the countries fight with the British Empire to start with and then move forward onto the more recent history...

    So a timeline would be fantastic and I'll read up on the each part of the time line and re-educate myself on a very important part of our countries history


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭Fenian Army




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,108 ✭✭✭pedroeibar1



    Hardly an unbiased read................
    http://www.marxists.org/glossary/people/j/a.htm

    Chubb's the 'Government and Politics of Ireland' gives what you are looking for.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭Fenian Army


    Hardly an unbiased read................
    http://www.marxists.org/glossary/people/j/a.htm

    Chubb's the 'Government and Politics of Ireland' gives what you are looking for.
    Have you read it? If not you are in a very poor position to criticize it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,108 ✭✭✭pedroeibar1


    You do not do any favours to your own reading list (or Irish history) if Jackson’s book is the best you can come up with.

    There are thousands of Irish history books, hundreds of which are published every year by scholarly authors with academic history credentials and no agenda. Jackson had an agenda, hence bias. Furthermore, the book starts in the 12th century, which is not what the OP wants. Jackson’s other magnum opus is the scintillatingly titled ‘Dialectics : the Logic of Marxism, and its Critics : an Essay in Exploration’ which is enough to make anyone run out.. (in the opposite direction!)

    Nobody even bothered to review (on Amazon.co.uk) the book you propose; it was written by a Marxist, edited by another Marxist, and the only sales blurb on the back cover is by nonentities. What is in favour of it is a single review by some idiot on amazon.com who announces ‘I am very well read in Irish/Celtic history. Just buy it ASAP!’

    Very apt!:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭Fenian Army


    So thats a no, you haven't read it then. Thought as much.

    Its an outline history. If someone wants to learn about Irelands struggle for freedom you need to begin at the start.

    Its a good book to start off with, then get specialist books. (that is in fact, is stated recommendation in his book).

    Seen as you haven't read it I see no point in entertaining you further, or treating what you say about bias seriously seen as you haven't read the book, thus are not in any position to comment on any, imaginary or real, bias of the book.

    (bias towards what? Marxism? He focuses on the harsh life of the ordinary Irishman and the economic and political policies which kept him there. There is no triumphing of marxism in the book, its a history not a political treatise. Anti English bias? The man himself was English.)


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,578 ✭✭✭jonniebgood1


    The best book I have come across in answering the OP's question is Diarmaid Ferriter's 'The transformation of Ireland 1900-2000'. It covers a wider period of time than requested but does so in an easy to read and well sourced manner. I think there is a preview in google books and the introduction in the book shows the style used well. Review below from historyireland:
    The blurb misleads by suggesting that these 759 pages (excluding the scholarly apparatus) are about the transformation of Ireland from an ‘impoverished . . . corner of the British Empire’ into ‘the “Celtic Tiger”’. In the first chapter, dealing with the years 1900–12, Diarmaid Ferriter depicts one of the better-off parts of the British Empire, a country at the European middle level. As for ‘transformation’, the author indicates a change of such dimension twice in the century: in the first twenty years and between the 1960s and the late 1990s, though he emphasises the partial nature of the latter metamorphosis. Overall, Ferriter sees Irish history in the twentieth century as consisting of early ambitions to achieve a decent living, equality and dignity for all, and an outcome which, rather than showing these ambitions realised, shows merely an end to falling population and a great increase in wealth for the majority. http://www.historyireland.com/volumes/volume13/issue1/reviews/?id=113795

    Also review here http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2004/nov/13/featuresreviews.guardianreview3


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 denisjmoc


    You could do a lot worse than the two books written by Ernie O'Malley 'On Another Man's Wound' and 'The Singing Flame'. Good autobiographical accounts of the War of Independence-Civil War Period.

    Also some excellent historical documentaries on TG4 of the whole period. There's a new 5 part series starting on Thursday night about the civil war.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,769 ✭✭✭nuac


    would agree with recommendations of O'Malley, Chubb, and Ferriter.

    Haven't read any thing by Jackson.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 596 ✭✭✭Thomas_I


    I´d recommend the following link (for a short overview and further informations)

    http://www.irishhistorylinks.net/Irish_History_Timeline.html

    To get deeper into the Irish history for the OP period, I´d recommend the book "Ireland in the Twentieth Century" by Tim Pat Coogan (see also the following links)

    http://www.timpatcoogan.com/books/ireland_in_the_twentieth_century.htm

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ireland-20th-Century-Tim-Coogan/dp/0099415224

    I´ve read it myself and it deals with some key events in more detail. With 880 pages it takes some time to get through, but it´s worth it.


Advertisement