Possible to work two jobs(both part-time)?

ed06

I'm just wondering if people think it is legal/allowed to combine two different jobs with part-time hours? (Secondary teaching) If you were to appraoch your principal and state that you are looking for additional hours in another school to supplement the ones you already have would they be obliging? do you think you could put a case across to work certain days in your own school and then do the other days in the additional school. Im aware of the fact that resource teachers travel between schools at primary level for the schools sharing hours. Would it be possible for secondary school teachers to do the same? If anybody has already combined jobs I'd love to hear from them, or from somebody in a school management position.

Miss Lockhart

In most cases that I have seen principals are unwilling or unable to timetable most subjects for only certain days even for job-sharers. Usually they must be in school a minimum of 4 days and often 5 - just on reduced hours.

Subjects are supposed to be spread evenly across the week - that is strongly supported by inspection reports - so it would not be desirable to cram a subject into certain days. It might work better for some subjects than others - can't see it working for core subjects.

It might be possible to travel between schools on the same day if the hours matched up well, but I think it would be down to luck really.

Tbh, I can't see a principal being happy to accommodate somebody like this in the current climate. They have their pick of teachers so why would they choose to further complicate the already complicated timetabling process.

happywithlife

hi there i covered a mat leave a while back that was split between two schools in two different towns - don't know how it was agreed first day but it was pretty much the morning in one place and the afternoon in the other ... and one day where i had to travel back to school no 1 again for the last class - bit of a drag travelling the distancce (20 mins or so between the schools) and certaintly today with the cost of petrol etc it would hardly be worth your while.
so it is do-able but you'd have to have a very accomodating time-tabler cos logistically it must have been a nightmare! have you been in one school for a while or would you be starting two new schools?

ed06

good to hear someone has done it. was it a vec setting you were employed in??? i know sometimes the vec teacher might be shared between schools. i have a cid resource contract of part time hours. no hope of getting addational hours in my school at the moment. looking at other options really. i wouldnt mind the travelling. i know when they were talking about cutting subjects they mentioned about sharing teachers between schools so surely its something of the same thing really???

Miss Lockhart

I think it is possible if the time-tablers are willing to co-ordinate - otherwise it is just down to luck.

I just don't see time-tablers being willing to take on this unnecessary complication unless they have to

i.e.
their head office of their management body is telling them they can only employ one person between them. That is a very unlikely scenario outside of VECs and even then it is more likely to only happen if the subject is difficult to get teachers in or if they are being forced to provide hours for a permanent/CID teacher within their scheme.

rainbowtrout

ed06 wrote: »

good to hear someone has done it. was it a vec setting you were employed in??? i know sometimes the vec teacher might be shared between schools. i have a cid resource contract of part time hours. no hope of getting addational hours in my school at the moment. looking at other options really. i wouldnt mind the travelling. i know when they were talking about cutting subjects they mentioned about sharing teachers between schools so surely its something of the same thing really???

It can happen but the big difference here is if a teacher is being shared between schools those schools are co-operating and will timetable that teacher so they can move between schools. If you are looking for hours in schools that are completely independent of each other then they are not obliged to make sure that both timetable revolve around you.

Like other posts say, it can be down to luck. There is nothing stopping you from doing it, but don't expect a principal to organise a timetable just to accommodate you. We have a teacher that started with us midway through the school year a couple of years ago on 5-6 hours. She did some subbing as well. Obviously her timetable was sparse and she had a lot of free time, but she saw 2-3 hours advertised in another school and it fitted with her free hours on the timetable so she took it. She just made herself unavailable for subbing on those afternoons. She was just lucky and didn't ask for timetable changes. It can work for really low hours like that but once you are heading in the 11+ hours territory it becomes less likely unless the schools are actively cooperating with each other.