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Student fired-and Now Homeless

  • 25-07-2012 1:20pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 195 ✭✭


    Ok, to cut a long story short, I've been dismissed from my current employment, and I am a full-time student in 3rd Level education. I've looked into it, and it seems I am not entitled to any such social welfare benefits/JSA etc. Lets just say I am now Homeless and arrive at the Social welfare office in the morning, What would happen then? Would it be a different case? I've no income, no support financially off my parents so say for example they kicked me out, would it be a different story? thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,574 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Talk to your local community welfare officer, usually based in the local health centre: http://www.hse.ie/eng/services/maps/map.html?showDoc=1&


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 195 ✭✭psalbmb


    Victor wrote: »
    Talk to your local community welfare officer, usually based in the local health centre: http://www.hse.ie/eng/services/maps/map.html?showDoc=1&

    And what can he/she possibly offer me? I am very unsure of the system so not sure where I stand? they hardly expect me to live on NOTHING!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭Zamboni


    Better stay in the parents good books until you're finished your education then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 195 ✭✭psalbmb


    Zamboni wrote: »
    Better stay in the parents good books until you're finished your education then.

    they are not supporting me. Anyways that's not what i want to know, what i want to know is speaking Hypothetically if i were to be "homeless" and unemployed, what would i be entitled to then, as in would it be a totally different outcome of the benefits i could receive


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,986 Mod ✭✭✭✭Moonbeam


    Apply to your colleges student assistance fund.
    A lot of students end up dropping out for financial issues.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 195 ✭✭psalbmb


    Moonbeam wrote: »
    Apply to your colleges student assistance fund.
    A lot of students end up dropping out for financial issues.

    but college doesnt start back till the end of september, what am I meant to do till then?:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 643 ✭✭✭maryk123


    usually if you present homeless- you will be put up in a mens homeless hostel. given your social welfare every week. these hostels are not nice places so you really would want to be desperate. reality is if you are due to go back to college you are not available for work and are not entitled to social welfare. hope this answers some of your questions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,484 ✭✭✭username123


    You are not entitled to be supported by the state while you pursue a third level education. Education is a luxury not an entitlement. If you are not in a position to finance yourself through university then I would politely suggest you leave college at this time, take whatever entitlements you would receive from the social welfare, look for work and review your education options at such a time as you can afford it.

    Clearly if you are homeless then a roof over your head is a priority, so a mens hostel will be the first stop. Then you will go onto the states housing list - Ive no idea of wait times etc..

    Sorry for your troubles, best of luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,168 ✭✭✭Balagan


    It's only a bit over 2 months to get through. Pity to give up college when you have gotten this far. Appreciate the loss of your job means a big change in lifestyle immediately and also blows your chances of saving for the next academic year. If you have a roof over your head from your parents, then negotiate with them to get through this summer in relative harmony with some food in your stomach in exchange for helping them out in other ways. Maybe relatives have jobs that need doing and for which they could pay you? Volunteering doesn't pay but it can be helpful if giving you something to do, especially good if you can find something that you would enjoy and related to your field of study and which would add to CV. It would keep you out of the parents' hair and vice versa. It won't be easy but should be possible and there's thousands in the same position.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 195 ✭✭psalbmb


    I am aware that college is a luxury and not an entitlement, i just feel hard done by, as thousands of people are on the dole/JSA/ receiving child benefit/ rent allowance/ etc and are getting the same, if not better 3rd level education for FREE with added bonuses like the one off payment 3 times (i think) throughout the year. This country is a joke, I've been working since I was 15 years old , paid my tax's etc and what do I get...Nothing!


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  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    psalbmb wrote: »
    This country is a joke, I've been working since I was 15 years old , paid my tax's etc and what do I get...Nothing!

    Do you intend to keep that attitude if the govt. decide to fund your education next year because you've fallen on hard times?


    Or is it only a joke when it's not benefitting you directly?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 195 ✭✭psalbmb


    Do you intend to keep that attitude if the govt. decide to fund your education next year because you've fallen on hard times?


    Or is it only a joke when it's not benefitting you directly?

    I know the state wont fund my education as If I am living at home, It goes on my parents income so either way, it wouldn't be benefiting me!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭saa


    I think you should feel more hard done by the fact that your parents won't support you rather than the welfare system, this is going to be tough but you will get through it! I was in that situation trust me stop freaking out over a few months there are other services than the social welfare, it will be tough but once the college year starts you can get your self sorted properly and make plans so it doesnt happen again, i.e find work, put a small amount into the credit union so there is an emergency few quid if you need it.

    First of all you will NOT get any social welfare payments as a *regular* student, a student registered as homeless may be an exception but not from SW office, maybe from CWO, you must register as a homeless person and you will be placed in temporary accommodation, you must link in with and talk to someone from a homeless support agency who can point you in the right direction to get you what you need, in the meanwhile get the SVP to call round and explain how your hardship is temporary as they do not makes payments ongoing but theyre thing is that rent, utilities and food is essential so you are fully entitled to seek temporary help, they may pay for very cheap temp accommodation I dont know but they will help with food at least, there are also places in town that offer food baskets. talk to your local citizens advice and go to your local council office to talk to the homeless department in housing they every so often get a young person in your situation. See if there are any organisations that provide temporary housing, explain your situation and your conerns as you're in a vunerable position due to family circumstances, you are just trying to get through these FEW months in order to get your degree and provide for yourself, a housing charity (there is on the other side of the block, same building as The Lab, foley street is on I think they might be the place that offers bed sits on SCR to people on the waiting list who have no where else to go) may be better as theyre is a human who will listen to you rather than ending up in a hostel through the system. CWO officer as well, dont go in asking for money or talking about benefits.. giving out etc. you need to do your research before you go in as they dont have the time so you go in, you need housing, you need food.. CWO officer may not be able to give you that might be through someone else as I know they have the supplementary income thing, thats social welfare.. and the exceptional needs payment which is more for once off purchases but I think if they talk to them they may be able to provide some assistance as their discretion because of your exceptional circumstances (they may also think you're just living on youre living with your parents but just coming down to get extra cash so bring evidence and proof of everything)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    psalbmb wrote: »
    Ok, to cut a long story short, I've been dismissed from my current employment, and I am a full-time student in 3rd Level education. I've looked into it, and it seems I am not entitled to any such social welfare benefits/JSA etc. Lets just say I am now Homeless and arrive at the Social welfare office in the morning, What would happen then? Would it be a different case? I've no income, no support financially off my parents so say for example they kicked me out, would it be a different story? thanks

    Why would they kick you out? This is all hypothesis. If you are living at home then you have all that you really need. A roof and food.

    So many are lacking even that.

    Been there, done that to get a degree and qualifications. Worked at seasonal and/or voluntary work during the long vacs. Many voluntary jobs will feed you. And they need strong young hands.

    Time maybe to,, well the term grow up comes to mind and that is not said critically or with any innuendo. Simply that we cannot always get things handed to us..

    Some of the seasonal jobs are hard work and teach a great deal. And can be really great.


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