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Boards Premier League Week 11 Results

  • 24-07-2012 9:06pm
    #1
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,193 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    NO@ NE

    Scores:

    NO 0/7/0/21 = 28
    NE 7/0/3/14 = 24

    Passing:

    NO 16/27 321 yards 3 TD's 2 INT 4 Sacks
    NE 16/27 262 yards 1 TD 2 INT 0 sacks

    Rushing:

    NO 13 atts 80 yards 0 TD's 0 fumbles
    NE 14 atts 101 yards 1 TD 0 fumbles

    Turnovers:

    NE 2
    NO 2

    Good game here, both offenses struggling early on, everything going nuts in the 4th quarter.

    After 3 quarters the score was NE 10 NO 7.

    With 7:51 remaining Brees hits Colston for a 69 yard TD. 14-10
    Inside 5 mins, NO are moving the ball trying to kill the clock when Brees throws a pick 6. 17-14 NE.

    The Saints get into FG range and Brees hits Colston on a very risky pass to take the lead inside the 2 min warning. 21-17.

    Brady hits Hernandez with an 80 yard pass with 1:44 to go.

    Saints march down the field again, are in FG range but go for the win. Brees hits Colston again for the winning score with 0:02 remaining.

    Wild 4th quarter to say the least.

    Final: 28-24 NO.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭Raoul


    Ravens 24 - 0 49ers

    Stats:

    Passing:

    Ravenes 4/8, 110 yds, 1 TD 0 INT
    SF 11/19, 117 yrds, 0 TD 1 INT

    Rushing:

    Ravens: 28 atts, 166 yds 2 TD
    49ers: 19 atts, 107 yds 0 TD

    Defensive

    Ravens 6 sacks, 1 INT, 2 Fumbles recovered
    49ers 2 Sacks 0 INT 0 Fumble recovered

    Score:
    Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4
    BR 7 10 0 7 24
    SF 0 0 0 0 0


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,193 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    4 completions? Tebow in disguise


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭Raoul


    Haha, didn't need to pass, so why take the risk. :confused:


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,193 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    Indeed, like me all of season 2 with Charles, though he lost his mojo(and speed) this year...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,557 ✭✭✭madalig12


    I did lose my first and second rbs whilst using a run heavy playbook....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭Raoul


    Ravens 24 - 21 Texans

    Stats:

    Passing:

    Ravens 13/20, 292 yds,3 TD 1 INT
    Texans 8/12, 203 yrds,3 TD 1 INT

    Rushing:

    Ravens: 18 atts, 79 yds 2 TD
    Texans: 20 atts, 127 yds 1 TD

    Defensive

    Ravens 1 sacks, 1 INT, 1 Fumbles recovered
    Texans 2 Sacks 1 INT 0 Fumble recovered

    Score:
    Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4
    BR 7 10 0 7 24
    HT 7 0 7 7 21

    Madden is so retarded. I was entering the scores for the quarters and it says 27-24. I had to get ET on in a party and double check that I actually won. Haha. It was saying he got 13 points in the first quarter. He didn't even get 1 field goal. I also finished the game on his 1 yard line, and I was thinking was that the stupidest play ever.

    But nope I wont 24-21. Phew


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,494 ✭✭✭The_Gatsby


    Falcons 24
    Ravens 17

    Good game there Raoul. It was close enough and apart from those 2 INTs I thought Flacco played really well. Here are some of the stats from the game.

    Passing
    M. Ryan 17/24 257YDs, 0 INTs, 1TD, 119.6
    J. Flacco 16/23 291 YDs, 2INTs, 2TDs, 104.8

    Rushing
    M. Turner 18Att, 66YDs, 1TD
    J. Rodgers 4Att, 22YDs, 1TD
    O. Mughelli 2Att, 7YDs
    M. Ryan 2Att, -4YDs

    R. Rice 9Att, 39YDs
    V. Leach 2Att, 11YDs

    Defense

    ATL 2INTs, 1 Sack
    BAL 0INTs, 2 Sacks

    ATL 3/7/7/7
    BAL 0/10/0/7


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,494 ✭✭✭The_Gatsby


    Super close game between the 49ers and Falcons. In the end it came down to a FG with 2 seconds on the clock! Here's some stats

    Passing
    M. Ryan 107.7, 20/29, 355YDs, 1TD, 1INT
    A. Smith 129.1 14/20, 278YDs, 1TD, 0INT

    Rushing
    M. Turner 14Att, 88YDs, 1TD
    J. Rodgers 4Att, 11YDs, 0TD, 1Fumble
    O. Mughelli 2Att, 14YDs, 1TD

    F. Gore 14Att, 50YDs, 3TD
    A. Smith 4Att, 6YDs, 0TD
    Miller 2Att, 1YD, 1TD

    Defense

    ATL 1sack, 1FF (Out of bounds)
    SF 1sack, 1INT, 1FF

    Special Teams
    Eric Weems 1TD of 101YDs

    ATL 14/10/7/6 37
    SF 0/14/14/7 35

    Like I said, a close game in the end which game down to a Matt Bryant field goal with 2 seconds on the clock. After the first quarter I thought this would be an easy game but I underestimated you Ali, you came back and almost beat me, which you'd have deserved. Good game and good luck with the rest of your games.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,557 ✭✭✭madalig12


    Only one left...was very close, judging by how this finished it looks like I should have gone for those five yards in the forth....That davis boyo is a good player for sf.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,494 ✭✭✭The_Gatsby


    Another win for Atlanta. I get the impression, Santry, that you weren't happy with the way I played? I do dropback with my QB but I have played the same way all year and have received no complaints. I received one last night from Raoul and then yourself on the mic. Wasn't aware that I was breaking the rules and considering I'm 7th last in Human vs. Human games I don't really see how it's making that much difference. However, if I am breaking the rules then I'll look to improve on it. Anyway, in M13 I think the dropbacks are set so shouldn't be a problem.

    Anyway, close enough game towards the end, here's the stats.

    Passing
    M. Ryan 108.5, 16/23, 311YDs, 1TD, 1INT
    A. Dalton 53.2, 18/33. 245YDs, 0TDs, 2INTs

    Rushing
    M. Turner 11Att, 95YDs, 1TD
    J. Rodgers 4Att, 13YDs, 1TD
    O. Mughelli 1 Att, 1YD
    J. Snelling 1Att, 1YD, 1TD

    C. Benson 15Att, 80YDs, 2TDs
    B. Scott 2Att, 10YDs, 1TD
    C. Pressley 1Att, 8YDs

    Defense
    ATL 5Sacks, 2INTs
    CIN 3Sacks, 1INT, 1FF (Recovered by Atlanta)

    ATL 7/7/14/0-->28
    CIN 0/7/0/14-->21


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,224 ✭✭✭✭SantryRed


    My curse of Madden runs on and on. Booted for excessive greeving against madalig as my controller decides to disconnect and not reconnect.

    Final Score: Bengals 43-6 49ers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,599 ✭✭✭matthew8


    If he's complaining in game that's not on. It's off-putting and can ruin the game. I was pretty annoyed when Dave complained about my dropbacks during a friendly a while ago. Can't say I noticed Fitz dropping back too far in my 2 games against you.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,193 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    Dropping the QB back more than 5 yards should be the exception rather than the rule.
    Dropping the QB back more than 10 yards should never happen.

    It just makes defense too difficult and its pretty unrealistic. I know some people do this out of habit and may not realise they are even doing it but it is something that I find very annoying about Madden 12 as it takes all blitzes completely out of the game.

    I think it's something we should try to avoid in our leagues and hopefully Madden 13 will be a bit better in that if you throw while running backwards your throw will be pretty poor.

    Matthew, I don't think there is anything wrong with mentioning something like that over the mic if you feel there is an issue, as I said before with a lot of people it may be more of a habit rather than trying to exploit the shortcomings of the game.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,224 ✭✭✭✭SantryRed


    matthew8 wrote: »
    If he's complaining in game that's not on. It's off-putting and can ruin the game. I was pretty annoyed when Dave complained about my dropbacks during a friendly a while ago. Can't say I noticed Fitz dropping back too far in my 2 games against you.

    How the fcuk is it not on? When I send a blitz and someone runs back an extra 10 yards and then throws it am I not supposed to say anything? It was fcuking infuriating. Or when they take a snap and inch left or right immediately meaning my zones become redundant? Do I just sit back and let myself get beat? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,494 ✭✭✭The_Gatsby


    SantryRed wrote: »
    How the fcuk is it not on? When I send a blitz and someone runs back an extra 10 yards and then throws it am I not supposed to say anything? It was fcuking infuriating. Or when they take a snap and inch left or right immediately meaning my zones become redundant? Do I just sit back and let myself get beat? :confused:

    In fairness it is just habit with me and once you said it I did try to hold off on it. Besides, plenty of people have still beaten me and there have been a good few times when I've been sacked and had like 3rd and 20 etc so it's not all win win.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,224 ✭✭✭✭SantryRed


    Lukebray wrote: »
    Another win for Atlanta. I get the impression, Santry, that you weren't happy with the way I played? I do dropback with my QB but I have played the same way all year and have received no complaints. I received one last night from Raoul and then yourself on the mic. Wasn't aware that I was breaking the rules and considering I'm 7th last in Human vs. Human games I don't really see how it's making that much difference. However, if I am breaking the rules then I'll look to improve on it. Anyway, in M13 I think the dropbacks are set so shouldn't be a problem.

    Anyway, close enough game towards the end, here's the stats.

    Passing
    M. Ryan 108.5, 16/23, 311YDs, 1TD, 1INT
    A. Dalton 53.2, 18/33. 245YDs, 0TDs, 2INTs

    Rushing
    M. Turner 11Att, 95YDs, 1TD
    J. Rodgers 4Att, 13YDs, 1TD
    O. Mughelli 1 Att, 1YD
    J. Snelling 1Att, 1YD, 1TD

    C. Benson 15Att, 80YDs, 2TDs
    B. Scott 2Att, 10YDs, 1TD
    C. Pressley 1Att, 8YDs

    Defense
    ATL 5Sacks, 2INTs
    CIN 3Sacks, 1INT, 1FF (Recovered by Atlanta)

    ATL 7/7/14/0-->28
    CIN 0/7/0/14-->21

    I really wasn't happy at all man. The drop backs, particularly on the Reggie White out routes were ridiculous and I couldn't get near you to cut it out. Even when I blitzed six as that is a slow route to develop. I get more annoyed when sh1t like that happens and the other person doesn't have a mic as it feels like your playing the CPU. Why did you change to red as well? It's always dark against lights?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,224 ✭✭✭✭SantryRed


    Lukebray wrote: »
    In fairness it is just habit with me and once you said it I did try to hold off on it. Besides, plenty of people have still beaten me and there have been a good few times when I've been sacked and had like 3rd and 20 etc so it's not all win win.

    Well it's a habit that a good few people in this league have got to lose. I've played a good few people in the past months who aren't, imo, letting the QB do his natural dropback and are going all places before hand. This will be getting cracked down on for Madden 13 as it is a pain in the hole for the opposition.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,494 ✭✭✭The_Gatsby


    SantryRed wrote: »
    I really wasn't happy at all man. The drop backs, particularly on the Reggie White out routes were ridiculous and I couldn't get near you to cut it out. Even when I blitzed six as that is a slow route to develop. I get more annoyed when sh1t like that happens and the other person doesn't have a mic as it feels like your playing the CPU. Why did you change to red as well? It's always dark against lights?

    Yeah I realised once the game started that this was a bad choice but thought it was too much bother to restart the game.

    You sacked me 3 times and when you started blitzing my production went down. You can see in the box scores that once you started blitzing me with 6 then I started scoring less.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,599 ✭✭✭matthew8


    Complaining about it in the middle of the game is a major jerk move though. I have no problem with it being mentioned outside of a game, and it's a habit I dropped, but it's rude to complain about in the middle of the game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,494 ✭✭✭The_Gatsby


    matthew8 wrote: »
    Complaining about it in the middle of the game is a major jerk move though. I have no problem with it being mentioned outside of a game, and it's a habit I dropped, but it's rude to complain about in the middle of the game.

    Ah I don't mind that so much, it's understandable. But like nobody else has complained apart from Raoul last night. The stats clearly show that I've been quite poor in Human vs. Human games so I didn't see the problem. Like I said, I'll work on it and cut out the habit. No point arguing over it now.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,224 ✭✭✭✭SantryRed


    matthew8 wrote: »
    Complaining about it in the middle of the game is a major jerk move though. I have no problem with it being mentioned outside of a game, and it's a habit I dropped, but it's rude to complain about in the middle of the game.

    I just can't understand your thinking on this.




  • matthew8 wrote: »
    Complaining about it in the middle of the game is a major jerk move though. I have no problem with it being mentioned outside of a game, and it's a habit I dropped, but it's rude to complain about in the middle of the game.

    if its mentioned after its viewed as someone being a sore loser.

    i think rules need to be cracked down on iv played 2-3 games against people doing things like this and i havent said anything because id feel like i was being a dick and to be honest i dont know what im like myself at it but it makes the game very frustrating if you cant stop someone because there dropping 20 yards every time linemen are not fast enough so it makes them pointless.
    Lukebray wrote: »
    Ah I don't mind that so much, it's understandable. But like nobody else has complained apart from Raoul last night. The stats clearly show that I've been quite poor in Human vs. Human games so I didn't see the problem. Like I said, I'll work on it and cut out the habit. No point arguing over it now.

    to be honest dude you did the same against me i just didnt say it when you snapped the ball matt ryan was sprinting back or right or left straight away so my d-line became pointless. i prob should have said it at the time because its cant be on you if you didnt realise it and i definetley dont think it was intentional


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,557 ✭✭✭madalig12


    Just to throw in my two cents....I did notice luke doing this during two early plays and had a little outburst (which he may or may not have heard) but I can say that I didn't see anything out of the ordinary after that. He can definitly play the game correctly. Is it not the case during screen plays that you should back off to let the blitz come then chuck it sideways. exception but not the rule.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 986 ✭✭✭etloveslsd


    If it gives an unfair advantage, it needs to be said during a game. A lot of people don't realise they are doing these things. I know I would prefer it to be said to me over a mic as opposed to having a mad row on boards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭Raoul


    Matthew, dont understand your thinking at all. if someone is playing against the rules you should say it asap.

    As luke said, i also said it to him during the game, also said it to adrian after.

    Think nerd said what i also feel. Sometimes you feel like you are being a sore loser if you say it. I have also noticed it with other people when they are losing they tend to drop back and i sometimes left them away with it as i dont want to be a sore winner.

    If you drop back about 15 yards, its using a type of glitch in madden, for some reason the cb doesnt follow the wr as he should and the wr can get separation. As i said to adrian, i was already through to the playoffs so not that big of a deal to me, but The falcons just beat the top two seeds and this will affect people that were trying to get a playoff spot.

    Luke you are a good player, great running game, i really dont think you need to drop back.

    Ohwell, hopefully it isn't possible in M13.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,193 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    Thanks everyone for contributing to this discussion. At the end of the day what we are trying to do is to make the league more enjoyable for everyone.

    Hopefully people can take this feedback and adjust their game if necessary. It shouldn't be seen as someone throwing a tantrum or being a sore loser.

    For future reference if you have an issue with someone in the BPL can you fire me off a PM and I'll do my best to deal with it via PM rather then getting into an argument on the thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭Raoul


    I understand what you are saying adrian and would have 100percent agreed with you at the start of the game but in some way mentioning it publicly actually could help. I know you have pmmed me before with players you werent happy with, but as nobody else complained to me there wasnt much i could do. But perhaps if it was mentioned publicly everyone would know what to watch out for.

    It is tough to know what to do.




  • i think at the very least people will notice it now that its been said i know im playing santry sunday and il be watching myself big time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Used to do this myself but Adrian (IIRC) sent me a PM telling me about it and I've adapted (at least I think I have anyway) since then.

    Regarding the Madden 13 dropbacks, if it's the same as NCAA if you press the A button to snap the ball the QB does the dropback automatically (1, 3, 5 or 7 steps based on the type of play called). I think you can still move the QB all over the place though, I'll play around with it during the weekend and report back.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,216 ✭✭✭Danger_dave1


    matthew8 wrote: »
    Complaining about it in the middle of the game is a major jerk move though. I have no problem with it being mentioned outside of a game, and it's a habit I dropped, but it's rude to complain about in the middle of the game.

    I'm not going to play a game 40mins to an hour against someone who's playing against the spirit of the community. 99/100 they don't realize it. It is not rude, its understandable someone does not wanna play a game when a bug is being exploited.

    When I first joined the leagues I had a problem with my drop backs. As in going to far back the other Guy said it to me. I was shocked that i was doing it so much. I made a focused effort to stay in the pocket from then on.

    If I've ever had a problem that's more against the spirit of the game ill tell the person and I'd like to think they'd do the same.




  • Giants 24-10 bengals

    eli 15/18 311yds 3tds 1 int
    dalton 15/31 227yds 1td 2ints


    rushing:

    nyg 14 att 50 yds 0tds
    cb 6att 26yds 0tds


    defense:

    nyg 5 sacks 2 ints
    cb 1sack 1 int


    turnovers:
    nyg +1
    cb -1



    madden decided the bengals where losing this one dropped passes all over the place and non existent safety play with nicks getting only 3 receptions but going for 176 yards and 2 tds.

    good game ben. it was great chatting and hopefully you're going to have your chance at revenge in the playoffs


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,224 ✭✭✭✭SantryRed


    Giants 24-10 bengals

    eli 15/18 311yds 3tds 1 int
    dalton 15/31 227yds 1td 2ints


    rushing:

    nyg 14 att 50 yds 0tds
    cb 6att 26yds 0tds


    defense:

    nyg 5 sacks 2 ints
    cb 1sack 1 int


    turnovers:
    nyg +1
    cb -1



    madden decided the bengals where losing this one dropped passes all over the place and non existent safety play with nicks getting only 3 receptions but going for 176 yards and 2 tds.

    good game ben. it was great chatting and hopefully you're going to have your chance at revenge in the playoffs

    176 yards. I was close with my 180 yard guess. :pac: Those deep passes absolutely murdered me and my safety offered no help being in the deep zone twice. Thanks very much for the game mate. Your D Line is phenomenal. Hopefully catch you in the play offs for the return game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,494 ✭✭✭The_Gatsby


    Another win for Atlanta and with no controversial dropbacks this time, it proves that Atlanta aren't reliant on a glitch in the game. Closer game than the scoreline would suggest. A fumble by Brees, returned for a TD, just before half time was really the turning point in the game and the lead just grew too quickly for New Orleans to come back. Marques Colston looked dangerous the whole game, as did Jimmy Graham. Good game Adrian, here's the stats.

    ATL 7/21/7/7 = 42
    NO 7/14/0/7 = 28


    Passing
    M. Ryan 158.2 16/20 283yds 4TD
    D. Brees 128.2 12/18 228yds 2TD 1INT

    Rushing
    M. Turner 16Att 113yds 1TD
    J. Rodgers 2Att 10yds
    O. Mughelli 1Att 1yds
    E. Weems 1Att 7yds

    P. Thomas 15Att 117yds 1TD
    J. Collins 1Att 1yd 1TD

    Defense
    ATL 4Sack, 1INT (Grimes), 1FF (Edwards), 1TD (Weatherspoon)
    NO 2Sacks


    EDIT: Any chance you could update the stats over the next few days please Adrian?


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,193 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    Lukebray wrote: »
    Another win for Atlanta and with no controversial dropbacks this time, it proves that Atlanta aren't reliant on a glitch in the game. Closer game than the scoreline would suggest. A fumble by Brees, returned for a TD, just before half time was really the turning point in the game and the lead just grew too quickly for New Orleans to come back. Marques Colston looked dangerous the whole game, as did Jimmy Graham. Good game Adrian, here's the stats.

    ATL 7/21/7/7 = 42
    NO 7/14/0/7 = 28


    Passing
    M. Ryan 158.2 16/20 283yds 4TD
    D. Brees 128.2 12/18 228yds 2TD 1INT

    Rushing
    M. Turner 16Att 113yds 1TD
    J. Rodgers 2Att 10yds
    O. Mughelli 1Att 1yds
    E. Weems 1Att 7yds

    P. Thomas 15Att 117yds 1TD
    J. Collins 1Att 1yd 1TD

    Defense
    ATL 4Sack, 1INT (Grimes), 1FF (Edwards), 1TD (Weatherspoon)
    NO 2Sacks


    EDIT: Any chance you could update the stats over the next few days please Adrian?

    Yeah, good game, I'll get the stats updated for tomorrow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 376 ✭✭NekoChan


    Packers @ Titans

    14/7/10/0 - 31 PaCKERS
    0/0/8/8 - 16 TITANS

    Massively unlucky titans just couldnt get any breaks

    3rd down conversion rate of 9% says it all really (packers not much better on 40%)

    Stats:

    PaSSING
    Rodgers - 15/26 & 287 yrds 2TD 2INT (4 Sacks)
    Hasselbeck - 9/28 & 115 yrds 1TD 3INT (2 Sacks)

    RUSHING
    GRant - 12 att 51 yrds 2TD

    Ringer - 11 att 91 yrds 1 TD
    Johnson - 9 att 29 yrds 0 TD



    Hasselbecks fickle arm & and some serious bad luck did titans in. Packers made some lovely drives in first half - and wouldnt give titans a chance to get back on track.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭BigBadRob83


    Good game Neko, well played.

    Found it very hard to get anything going on offense against your D. Though run game surprisingly improved after CJ went out injured.

    EDIT: Sorry Heli :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 376 ✭✭NekoChan


    Packers @ 49ers

    3/3/7/14 - 27 Packers
    7/3/0/0 - 10 49ers

    49ers defense played well in 1st half - scoring the teams only TD from a forced fumble on packers 32 yrd line
    and stopping packers twice on 10 yrd line to force early FGs
    Packers dominated second half though, and had a brilliant passing game going that 49ers just couldnt stop
    Stats:

    Passing
    Rodgers - 21/29 for 306 yrds 1 TD & 0 INT
    Smith - 8/19 for 90 yrds 0 TD & 4 INT

    Rushing
    Grant - 21 att 151yrds & 2TD & 1 Fumble (turnover)

    Gore - 9att for 25yrds & 0TD
    Smith - 1 att for 34 yards


    MOTM - Burnett for 3 fabulous INTs plucked from under 49ers noses

    Special mention for Willis and whitner for the forced fumble and recover for TD combo they pulled off as well

    I think ali would prob agree that apart from that long rush her pulled off Smith was pretty much the 'goat of the game'
    He seemed to either over or under throw everyone... or throw to wrong team!


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