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Irish government unveils design for memorial to abuse victims

  • 23-07-2012 11:42pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭


    Looks like we are getting another national garden memorial (and possible garden).
    The Irish government has unveiled the winning design of the memorial chosen for victims of institutional abuse.

    Journey of Light will be erected next to the Garden of Remembrance in Dublin.
    The memorial will include the wording of the Irish government's 1999 apology for the suffering of those who were abused while in its care.

    It stated: "On behalf of the State and of all citizens of the State, the Government wishes to make a sincere and long overdue apology to the victims of childhood abuse for our collective failure to intervene, to detect their pain, to come to their rescue."

    The apology will be inscribed in English and Irish at a child's eye level on the walls, and in Braille on a bronze plaque at the base of the water feature.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18932428

    Now if they will see that the culprits pay up more so rather than leaving the rest of the nation to pay 1.5 Billion, they would be on a firmer footing.
    As it is, the state (us?) will be left to also pay for the garden too.


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭Samich


    No garden is any use to them.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,266 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    so just another place for junkies and alcos to hang out in then


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,825 ✭✭✭Fart


    Such a nice thing to spend money on. :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,473 ✭✭✭Wacker The Attacker


    Perhaps I'm looking at this the wrong way but If I was a victim of physical or sexual abuse I wouldnt want something to remind me of it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,563 ✭✭✭leeroybrown


    How about some proper children's rights instead?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    Perhaps I'm looking at this the wrong way but If I was a victim of physical or sexual abuse I wouldnt want something to remind me of it

    But there are churches all over the country? :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    A fucking garden?

    For fuck sake.

    How about they do something proper, like hold accountable those responsible for the abuse and those who aided it's cover up? Like removing the limitations in compensation that they let the Church off with? Like something proper, instead of planting a few fucking trees & flowers?

    "Journey of Light", my hole. What a shower of contemptuous cunts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭Johro


    They could use the money to provide counselling instead.
    Abuse victims don't need reminding.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,473 ✭✭✭Wacker The Attacker


    MrJoeSoap wrote: »
    But there are churches all over the country? :confused:


    Were they built as a memorial to child abuse specifically?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,676 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    If the Gov want to do something about the legacy of child abuse they should

    1) Get the Church to pay up what it said it would
    2) Stop contributing to abuse claims, make the Church pay every cent
    3) Start getting the Church out of every school in this country
    4) Sever any links it has with the CC
    5) Hunt the perpetrators down the way the Nazi's were and get them prosecuted

    Although the design is nice, I think its somewhat sad that tourists will come to look at this garden and they will be forever reminded how sick we were as a country that so many people in power could do such evil to little children, and cover it up for decades.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    Were they built as a memorial to child abuse specifically?

    Of course not. But they surely serve as daily reminders to more people than this garden will.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭Millicent


    Johro wrote: »
    They could use the money to provide counselling instead.
    Abuse victims don't need reminding.

    I want to thank this a million times. The people fucked up by sexual abuse aren't going to be less fucked up because of a meaningless gesture. They're just going to be fucked up and sitting in a garden that memorialises their trauma. Who in the hell thought this was a good idea?!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Does anyone else also think that it should not be near the Garden of Remembrance?

    The Garden of Remembrance is memorial to great men and women of the past.
    I can't see why in its near shadow, another that is so very close, brought into creation, comes about because of perverts and liars!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,378 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    Why aren't we getting a memorial garden for the hundreds who die from road deaths each year, or the "Institutional" Irish abuse of alcohol?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭Millicent


    Why aren't we getting a memorial garden for the hundreds who die from road deaths each year, or the "Institutional" Irish abuse of alcohol?

    Because neither are anything to celebrate or memorialise? :/

    ETA: It's just occurred to me that you were joking. Time for bed.


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