Who to marry us, help?

skippy15

I am getting married at the end of 2013 on a Saturday,

I am having a civil ceremony, ( so rule at standard church wedding, and priests will not marry outside of church)
Spiritualist Union of Ireland- total scam, not willing to use these due to personal reasons-
Unitarian Church- will now only legally marry in their own establishment (so no use)

HSE registrar- will only work Mon- Fri- seems no way around this

Humanist- are not legally registered to marry us. Will choose this option so far- with a registery office the week before :eek:

Pastors- having trouble getting in contact with a reliable source who can marry us

Any other ideas, solutions, alternatives would be greatly appreciated?

liliq

I thought I heard recently that the humanists are getting legalised?

angeldelight

skippy15 wrote: »

Unitarian Church- will now only legally marry in their own establishment (so no use)

Why does that rule them out?

pwurple

Priests marry people outside of churches. Ours did.

skippy15

angeldelight wrote: »

Why does that rule them out?

We basically want a civil ceremony and someone who can legally marry us at our hotel venue, this would basically be no different from getting married in a church somewhere

pwurple wrote: »

Priests marry people outside of churches. Ours did.

Really? I have talked to local priests (1 who is retired) and both said they would do not marry outside of church. Where was this if ya don't mine me asking?

Humanists are in the pipeline, but they do not know for sure. In an ideal the legislation goes through....but looking at the Irish political system im not holding my breath:pac:

Senna

A priest i know did marry a couple in a hotel, but he thought he was only doing a blessing and then the couple produced the forms for him to sign, he did sign them and the couple were married but if he had of know he wouldn't have done it, he was just too civil to say anything to them.

Ickle Magoo

Would it not make more sense to find someone to marry you/somewhere to get married and work out a day/date from there than declare a day/date and discover you can't actually get married then?

What about getting married outside of Ireland...registrars in the UK work weekends.

pwurple

Hiya, as far as I know it's not a church rule, but up to the individual priests. I've Pmed you the email address of ours. But you would be better off finding someone who knows a youngish priest maybe and asking them. Retired priests are probably not going to be interested in doing something out of the normal run of things.

dub8

Have yout tried Tom Colton , he can legaly marry you on a saturday , ! We are having him , have heard absolutly great reports from about him , !

http://spiritualceremonies.ie/?page_id=2

Sleepy

skippy15 wrote: »

Spiritualist Union of Ireland- total scam, not willing to use these due to personal reasons

As someone who has them booked for a wedding early next year, I'm curious to hear these?

Since you're looking at the end of next year, I'd say the Humanists should be legal by then. The legislation isn't far off from being passed afaik.

fuddy1

You may just have to change the day of the week for your wedding. We booked a weekday as we wanted to ensure we had a civil ceremony. We booked the humanists too because the legislation allowing them to perform legal wedding ceremonies was supposed to pass in the Dail before the summer break on 19th july. For reasons unknown the legislation wasnt processed as promised by the government so the humanists again have to wait. We are now going with a civil ceremony with a HSE registrar, I must say so far they are really nice.
We looked at the spritualist union of Ireland too but it just didnt sit well with me....not comfortable funding people who believe/claim they are mediums and take money from vunerable people to contact their dead relatives. (Thats just my opinion and I'm sorry in advance if that offends anyone.)

SmilingLurker

skippy15 wrote: »

I am getting married at the end of 2013 on a Saturday,

You may be lucky, there is a bill before the oireachtas to allow the humanists to marry people legally. Myself and my wife did the civil, then had a humanist ceremony. (Brian Whiteside as celebrant). I would strongly recommend talking to him/ the HAI

Good luck and congratulations, hope you have a great day!

gowayouttadat

skippy15 wrote: »

I am getting married at the end of 2013 on a Saturday,


Unitarian Church- will now only legally marry in their own establishment (so no use)

Just wondering if this is correct? we had a Unitarian marry us a few weeks ago and it most definitely wasn't in their establishment.

skippy15

SmilingLurker wrote: »

You may be lucky, there is a bill before the oireachtas to allow the humanists to marry people legally. Myself and my wife did the civil, then had a humanist ceremony. (Brian Whiteside as celebrant). I would strongly recommend talking to him/ the HAI

Good luck and congratulations, hope you have a great day!

Ye I have a meeting arranged with Brian, and hopefully the Humanist gets sorted in the meantime- hopefully!

Oh that's first Ive heard of UNitarian doing it outside their establishment, I stand corrected. Can I ask what venue you used so?

angeldelight

The Unitarian marriage solemnisers will only marry people either in their own establishment or Brook Lodge. This only changed quite recently and is only for new bookings

CuppaCocoa

Why not have your civil ceremony and then have a blessing (non-legal) on the day of your choice? It can be non-religious if you wish. PM me if you want further details and recommendations.

texas star

We just got married in July by Tom Colton group the ladies name was Mary Losty and she was wonderful,we have a civil cermony in the hotel and everyone enjoyed it and said it was one of the nicest cermony they ever been too.:)

frogstar

Anyone know if / when this bill will be passed for humanist weddings?

Hse booked up every friday until nov 2013!! You would think they would have more staff but apparently they are reducing staff. They would make a fortune if they did weekend weddings but that's a rant for a different day!

skippy15

frogstar wrote: »

Anyone know if / when this bill will be passed for humanist weddings?

Hse booked up every friday until nov 2013!! You would think they would have more staff but apparently they are reducing staff. They would make a fortune if they did weekend weddings but that's a rant for a different day!

It was due to be passed before the summer break by ministers,
Seems only a formality and its what im hoping for myself, but cant find any updates since they reconvened.

Peregrinus

The Bill has been through all stages in the Seanad; it has yet to be considered in the Dail.

There are no fixed rules about when it has to be considered; the priority assigned to Bills and the order in which they get considered are decided by the managers of Government business in the Dail. How soon they get around to any Bill depends not only how important they think the Bill is but also on how important they think all the other Bills on their agenda are. Thes priorities frequently shift; the Bills to be discussed on any sitting day are usually not definitely known until quite shortly beforehand.

This is not a government Bill. It's a private member's Bill, promoted by Ivana Bacik, and then (unusually) accepted by the government. Private members' Bills don't often get to become law, but on the rare occasions when they get taken up by governments, they usually do.

Having taken up this Bill, it would be very embarrassing for the government not to get it through, but at the same time it's not their agenda, it it won't have a high priority compared to the Bills that they themselves are bringing forward. So it will happen, but I wouldn't hold my breath. If I was planning a wedding, it would be prudent to plan it on the basis that this Bill will not have passed by the time of the wedding.

Sleepy

As I said, we've booked with the Spiritualist Union of Ireland but I had really been hoping this bill would pass in time for us. It's not looking likely though!

The HSE can perform wedding on Saturdays but will only tend to do so for "emergencies" e.g. bride/groom or a close family member being seriously ill etc.

Suaimhneach

Facing the same challenge right now. Would love for the humanists to have recognition, we're aiming for end of 2014, fingers crossed!

Really would like to avoid two weddings and now sure how I feel about the spiritualist guys, having heard negative things about Tom Colton, but never any specifics.

SmilingLurker

As she sponsored the bill, and was/is a member of the labour party, you could mail and ask when it is/could be scheduled?

ivana.bacik@oireachtas.ie

danois

I read on their website that humanist wedding is now legal

skippy15

I spoke to the woman who proposed the bill, and as most people know the bill was passed to make humanists legal to marry,

They are simply waiting to get the legal stuff done so that they can start having there name added to the list of solemisers who can perform a wedding, this needs to happen before you can add them as the person to marry you on the marriage form.

Seems a matter of weeks before all done and dusted, just a mere formality at this stage.

I have met with them and booked them anyways:)

pooch90

I was looking on crsappointments.ie
They have times available for registrars on a Saturday, anyone know why? Thought they were only supposed to be Mon-Fri?

neemish

pooch90 wrote: »

I was looking on crsappointments.ie
They have times available for registrars on a Saturday, anyone know why? Thought they were only supposed to be Mon-Fri?

Where on the site did it say that? Can't see it at all

pooch90

It's when you actually go through the online appointment booking, first few steps of application when it asks you to choose ceremony date and time ( I was looking for a ceremony in a venue, not office)