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Aer Lingus Rough Windy Landing *video*

  • 22-07-2012 1:54pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 157 ✭✭




    Caught this at ACE recently, impressive :)


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,326 ✭✭✭Bearcat


    ACE can't be a k@nt of a place, especially coming in for the reciprocal runway on the VOR approach with a high decent profile......you can get some vicious winds there. Judging by the wind sock it looks more or less into wind but wind shear is prevalent here so are diversions to FUE which makes the whole day a mare.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,930 ✭✭✭galwayjohn89


    Am I missing something (I don't have sound) That landing looks normal to me, slightly longer to touch down but by no means 'extremely rough'


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 157 ✭✭charliehotel


    Vuzuggu wrote: »
    Am I missing something

    Evidently so, watch 00:16-00:20
    Vuzuggu wrote: »
    but by no means 'extremely rough'

    I am sure most of the passengers inside the aircraft would disagree with you here


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,930 ✭✭✭galwayjohn89


    Evidently so, watch 00:16-00:20



    I am sure most of the passengers inside the aircraft would disagree with you here

    Rewatched it there. Was a slightly bumpy landing but not extremely rough in my opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,253 ✭✭✭jackofalltrades


    "Extremely rough landing" is a bit of an exaggeration.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 157 ✭✭charliehotel


    Vuzuggu wrote: »
    not extremely rough in my opinion.

    It was quite far from smooth, that's for sure. Some passengers screamed, my uncle was on it, it had come in from BFS. I was hoping for an A319, oh well


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 157 ✭✭charliehotel


    Bearcat wrote: »
    ACE can't be a k@nt of a place, especially coming in for the reciprocal runway on the VOR approach with a high decent profile......you can get some vicious winds there. Judging by the wind sock it looks more or less into wind but wind shear is prevalent here so are diversions to FUE which makes the whole day a mare.

    Indeed, the winds at ACE are ferocious!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,930 ✭✭✭galwayjohn89


    It was quite far from smooth, that's for sure. Some passengers screamed, my uncle was on it, it had come in from BFS. I was hoping for an A319, oh well

    I've been on a flight when the engines spooled up further for a climb and passengers screamed. Passengers screaming != something unusual.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 157 ✭✭charliehotel


    Vuzuggu wrote: »
    Passengers screaming != something unusual.

    Yes, exactly :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,565 ✭✭✭kub


    Infarness considering the country which that plane is from, I'd say the pilots were yawning while touching down.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭globemaster1986


    kub wrote: »
    Infarness considering the country which that plane is from, I'd say the pilots were yawning while touching down.

    Interesting remark! Are you referring to the operator or the manufacturer there chief?

    In relation to the video itself, mountain out of a molehill! A challenging landing in strong winds, no more. OP I think you should stop reading sensationalist sh1t3 like the Daily Mail:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,565 ✭✭✭kub


    Interesting remark! Are you referring to the operator or the manufacturer there chief?

    In relation to the video itself, mountain out of a molehill! A challenging landing in strong winds, no more. OP I think you should stop reading sensationalist sh1t3 like the Daily Mail:D

    The operator


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,752 ✭✭✭cyrusdvirus


    kub wrote: »
    The operator


    Opens popcorn.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭sparrowcar


    Nice video
    Normal windy landing

    Nothing to see here..... :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 157 ✭✭charliehotel


    sparrowcar wrote: »
    Nothing to see here..... :rolleyes:

    Aside from a nice video of a windy landing :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 466 ✭✭imfml


    The landing was in no way out of the ordinary and any screaming passengers must not be used to flying. The remark about the pilots yawning is quite right, and I think Irish passengers are well used to landing in strong winds too having flown from this island most of the time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 157 ✭✭charliehotel


    imfml wrote: »
    The landing was in no way out of the ordinary

    Who suggested that it was otherwise? :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 157 ✭✭charliehotel


    imfml wrote: »
    I think Irish passengers are well used to landing in strong winds too having flown from this island most of the time.

    Irish passengers fly from Lanzarote most of the time, is that right ? :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭sparrowcar


    sparrowcar wrote: »
    Nice video
    Normal windy landing

    Nothing to see here..... :rolleyes:
    Aside from a nice video of a windy landing :o

    As I already said.. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,326 ✭✭✭Bearcat


    Yawn!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 466 ✭✭imfml


    imfml wrote: »
    The landing was in no way out of the ordinary

    Who suggested that it was otherwise? :confused:
    Who suggested anyone suggested it was?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 466 ✭✭imfml


    imfml wrote: »
    I think Irish passengers are well used to landing in strong winds too having flown from this island most of the time.

    Irish passengers fly from Lanzarote most of the time, is that right ? :pac:

    No. They fly from the also windy island of Ireland most of the time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 157 ✭✭charliehotel


    imfml wrote: »
    They fly from the also windy island of Ireland most of the time.

    Such an ignorant generalisation is irrelevant here.
    imfml wrote: »
    Who suggested anyone suggested it was?

    Exactly :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 722 ✭✭✭urajoke


    When are you going to post up the "ROUGH WINDY LANDING VIDEO" ?

    This is "Rough and Windy"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭NeitherJohn


    Just like a stiff breeze in Bantry Bay


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 771 ✭✭✭seanmacc


    Irish passengers fly from Lanzarote most of the time, is that right ? :pac:

    I was flying one time into Tenerife back in 2004 and thee was a problem of the other extreme. The temperature was 40c+ on the ground and the aircraft (A330), as the rear wheels touched down firmly on the tarmac hit a heat pocket on the runway pushing the aircraft 10-20 meters back up off the runway. The plane full of kids and half cut adults was hit be a rally of momentary screaming until the pilot took control of the situation and made the correction.

    I'd take a gale force, wobbly landing in Dublin any than that one again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,565 ✭✭✭kub


    What is a heat pocket?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 771 ✭✭✭seanmacc


    kub wrote: »
    What is a heat pocket?

    Rising hot air coming up of the runway that gets trapped underneath the aircrafts hot airflow as it touches down forcing it back up.. Effectively like stepping on a balloon that doesn't burst (Only common in very hot areas). A pilot explained it too me a few years ago there may be a better way of putting it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 794 ✭✭✭bluecode


    I'm tempted to be smart. Having had a few hairy landings in my time, self inflicted, there is nothing so horrible when you realise you are too fast, too high and it going to end in a horrible thump. I tend to be blase about ordinary bumpy landings in windy conditions.

    But really for the average passenger, it all seems really scary. But in truth for the crew of that particular Airbus it would hardly register in the memory.

    I'm no airline pilot But it the pilot handling was probably pleased with himself or herself.

    He or she earned their money that day. Making is look easy it part of the job.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,133 ✭✭✭View Profile


    kub wrote: »
    What is a heat pocket?

    This is a heat pocket according to google
    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTtviVCyK5KE-fUHpoV_LihMf6BdxrGNHF4AMvjCw03-PzlIRCf


    .............something to do with lacrosse?!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 157 ✭✭charliehotel


    urajoke wrote: »
    When are you going to post up the "WINDY LANDING VIDEO" ?

    Compared to the likes of this example it's a windy landing:

    Smooth


    Windy


    The winds in the 'Windy' video were in excess of 50km/h so that is certainly windy. The direction of the wind was orientated exactly towards the incoming planes so it was a very strong headwind.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭Su Campu


    I still don't see how that's anything of interest. If anything it's an excellent landing in 50 kph winds. Wind straight into the nose so no issue whatsoever.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 157 ✭✭charliehotel


    Su Campu wrote: »
    Wind straight into the nose so no issue whatsoever.

    Who said it was ?? :rolleyes:
    Su Campu wrote: »
    I still don't see how that's anything of interest.

    Here's your answer :) ;
    Su Campu wrote: »
    an excellent landing in 50 kph winds.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭Su Campu


    It was quite far from smooth, that's for sure. Some passengers screamed, my uncle was on it, it had come in from BFS. I was hoping for an A319, oh well

    You made this normal landing into something of a sensation. I (and may others) are saying it wasn't so. It was not "far from smooth", it was smooth. It was a good landing so why the passengers were screaming is beyond me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 157 ✭✭charliehotel


    Su Campu wrote: »
    It was a good landing so why the passengers were screaming is beyond me.

    Maybe because it hit the runway on one landing gear and bounced ?


    Perhaps the video does not reveal it all too well but the aircraft rolled to the left on touchdown, I think a headwind gust caught it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 703 ✭✭✭Cessna_Pilot


    A headwind gust caused the aircraft to roll?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 157 ✭✭charliehotel


    A headwind gust caused the aircraft to roll?

    Not alone, there is also overcorrection of the ailerons by the pilot flying, visible at 00:19.

    The winds were ever-changing, only blowing in the same general direction eg. 190-230 degrees heading, ACE is a very windy spot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 703 ✭✭✭Cessna_Pilot


    Okey. Thanks for letting me know. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 239 ✭✭Chicken1


    Never saw much posts over what is a very normal landing in strong winds, the amount of times that I have landed in Heathrow in strong winds going in at an angle touch down on one wheel then the other it happens every day in wind. Get over it charliehotel


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,549 ✭✭✭*Kol*


    Not alone, there is also overcorrection of the ailerons by the pilot flying, visible at 00:19.

    I dont see that at all.


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