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C-17 lands at wrong aiport

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 742 ✭✭✭mayotom


    http://www.wtsp.com/news/article/264803/8/Massive-military-plane-lands-at-wrong-airport-in-Tampa

    talk about sensationalism , almost hit the fuel tanker, crashes etc what load of the word beginning with S


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,924 ✭✭✭Nforce




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 690 ✭✭✭westdub


    "Two words: one starts with O and one starts with S," said Don Sipila, who guesses that's what was going through the pilot's mind moments after his C-17 touched down on the wrong runway.
    "It was extremely loud, the wings were wavering a little bit because he was doing a curving type of thing. You could clearly see this was a maximum effort short field landing. You don't practice these things," said Sipila.

    They don't practice short landings in C 17s?? :rolleyes:

    This story is total Bull Poop


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,924 ✭✭✭Nforce


    westdub wrote: »
    They don't practice short landings in C 17s?? :rolleyes:

    This story is total Bull Poop

    Well,in fairness to the eye witness, the C-17 was at it's absolute STOL limits when landing on a 3,400ft runway. I'm sure that when they normally practice their STOL techniques they factor in a little safety margin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,252 ✭✭✭Sterling Archer


    Seriously Impressive landing tho, and take-off :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 690 ✭✭✭westdub


    Nforce wrote: »
    Well,in fairness to the eye witness, the C-17 was at it's absolute STOL limits when landing on a 3,400ft runway. I'm sure that when they normally practice their STOL techniques they factor in a little safety margin.

    A fully loaded C-17 can land in less than 3000ft and I presume this one wasn't fully loaded so it was not under any heavy pressure to land on a 3400ft runway....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,359 ✭✭✭jon1981


    how can this even happen? surely the ATC has to give clearance to land? Wouldn't they know that this guy is scheduled to land there that day and tell him?

    btw I have no knowledge of ATC procedures, but would have thought in todays worlds of modern communications, this mistake would be impossible to make?


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 10,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    jon1981 wrote: »
    btw I have no knowledge of ATC procedures, but would have thought in todays worlds of modern communications, this mistake would be impossible to make?
    The runway for the civilian airport and McDill are the same orientation, easy to emerge from cloud and spotting the runway you expect to see but thinking you are a bit too high (ie. spotting the closest runway not the one you are aiming for in the distance)


    And in McDill and another USAF base (name escapes me) they have STOL runways for training that are 3000ft long.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,941 ✭✭✭pclancy


    Same runway numbering might also have contributed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 392 ✭✭Skyknight


    Tenger wrote: »
    The runway for the civilian airport and McDill are the same orientation, easy to emerge from cloud and spotting the runway you expect to see but thinking you are a bit too high (ie. spotting the closest runway not the one you are aiming for in the distance)

    It should also be noted that as well as having the same runway orientation, Peter O'Knight Airport(the civil airport in question) is in very close proximity to McDill AFB, which is located just across Hillsborough Bay, in a SW direction.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭globemaster1986


    jon1981 wrote: »
    how can this even happen? surely the ATC has to give clearance to land? Wouldn't they know that this guy is scheduled to land there that day and tell him?

    btw I have no knowledge of ATC procedures, but would have thought in todays worlds of modern communications, this mistake would be impossible to make?

    Peter O Knight (KTPF) is an untowered airport. The crew would have been speaking to Tampa Approach before being handed off to MacDill Tower who would have cleared them to land at MacDill. They would have had to overfly KTPF to land on RWY 22 at MacDill. I am assuming they somehow mistook one for the other.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭Davidth88


    Dramatic enough video.

    Reminds me of the story , Pan Am 707 lands at Northolt instead of Heathrow. They used to use the Gasometers as a visual aid to the landing , he chose the wrong one .

    The Gasometer in South Harrow then had a HUGE 'NO' painted on it to stop it happening again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,126 ✭✭✭Reoil


    Sure in 2006 a RyanAir flight landed at an army base, 6 miles away from the proper runway!

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/4857962.stm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,159 ✭✭✭EchoIndia


    Reoil wrote: »
    Sure in 2006 a RyanAir flight landed at an army base, 6 miles away from the proper runway!

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/4857962.stm

    Which, as your link shows, was operated by another airline. It could hardly be laid directly at Ryanair's door in terms of answering for the error made.


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