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Serbia squad- no Stephen Hunt

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,119 ✭✭✭✭event


    Anyone have any idea why he was not picked? No mention of why in any article I read, and he was meant to have been particularly angry with his lack of game time in Poland.

    Squad

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2012/0721/1224320529742.html
    “I think so, yes. I said after Poland ‘I don’t wish you for this game (Serbia) because I wish to try the other options’. They said ‘yes Mister, no problem’. They know they can stay,” Trapattoni said yesterday at his squad announcement in Ballybofey.

    thats why


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭iseegirls


    Anyone have any idea why he was not picked? No mention of why in any article I read, and he was meant to have been particularly angry with his lack of game time in Poland.

    Squad

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/sport/2012/0721/1224320529742.html

    But they do mention him in the article :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭Father Damo


    event wrote: »
    thats why


    That quote was in relation to Given, Dunne, Keane and Duff, all much older players. Hunt is not an old timer like these lads and has been picked for every other squad in recent years. Why, for example, would he be rested yet a longer serving player like O Shea gets a call up? Trap usually issued a suqad list and the players would get in contact for details- now it seems to be the other way around with him calling plyers to check if they want to play.

    Something fishy about this, especially given Hunt apparently being very let down by his treatment in Poland. I know it is only a friendly but Green, McShane, no Hoolahan, I would not hold out much hope of a drastically different approach from the disaster we pulled off at the Euros :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,919 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    There's nothing fishy about it, he's part of the senior group omitted. Trap said so in the press conference:

    https://twitter.com/Ciaran_O/status/226289880425189376
    Stephen Hunt is one of them, he is ok. I clarify with him and the other, it's an opportunity for others.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭Father Damo


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    There's nothing fishy about it, he's part of the senior group omitted. Trap said so in the press conference:

    https://twitter.com/Ciaran_O/status/226289880425189376

    He has brought Andy Keogh back despite not having paid him the slightest bit of notice in years. The only players being voluntarily rested are lads who have been in the squad for 12- 16 odd years. McGeady, Keogh, Doyle, Hunt, McShane and Kelly all became international regulars at roughly the same time, and the only regular from that generation left out is a player who was rumoured to be furious at not playing in Poland? On the basis of Trap wanting to blood in the youth, despite the amount of aforementioned players who have been regulars for 5 odd years now? There is definitely something in this.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    There's nothing fishy about it, he's part of the senior group omitted. Trap said so in the press conference:

    https://twitter.com/Ciaran_O/status/226289880425189376
    Stephen Hunt is one of them, he is ok. I clarify with him and the other, it's an opportunity for others.

    absolute bull**** explaination.
    why call up dross like McShane and Green so?

    Why include O'Shea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,740 ✭✭✭✭MD1990


    who cares
    Hunt is useless anyway
    duno how he can complain not gettin games since he was terrible for Wolves


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭Father Damo


    MD1990 wrote: »
    who cares
    Hunt is useless anyway
    duno how he can complain not gettin games since he was terrible for Wolves


    Nobody is saying he is world class, he is a bit of Kilbane type. Wont ever set the world alight but usually puts in a solid workman performance for us. It is blatantly clear that Hunt either will not play under Trap or that Trap has banned him for dissent.

    I reckon the first one being more likely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,746 ✭✭✭TaosHum


    Nobody is saying he is world class, he is a bit of Kilbane type. Wont ever set the world alight but usually puts in a solid workman performance for us. It is blatantly clear that Hunt either will not play under Trap or that Trap has banned him for dissent.

    I reckon the first one being more likely.

    Considering McClean was supposedly unhappy along with Hunt, his inclusion to me would rule that one out. Why ban Hunt and not McClean?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    TaosHum wrote: »
    Considering McClean was supposedly unhappy along with Hunt, his inclusion to me would rule that one out. Why ban Hunt and not McClean?

    McClean is younger and less injury prone?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,890 ✭✭✭✭Nalz


    No Hoolahan again...ffs


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    People calling for Hoolahan are not the smartest (in my opinion of course).

    He is 30, so won't have very much time in the squad as it is.

    His time has passed, he should have been in the squad ten years ago, but most of the people calling for him never heard of him then, and didn't care, and laughed when LoI and Shels fan were saying it then.

    Typical.

    Trap definitely should look at a Hoolahan type player, but not Weso.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭the realpigiron


    Des wrote: »
    People calling for Hoolahan are retards imo.

    He is 30, so won't have very much time in the squad as it is.

    His time has passed, he should have been in the squad ten years ago, but most of the people calling for him never heard of him then, and didn't care, and laughed when LoI and Shels fan were saying it then.

    Typical.

    Trap definitely should look at a Hoolahan type player, but not Weso.

    Why is this quote getting thanks from people? It's not a very clever post at all. Just because Hoolahan is 30 that shouldn't rule him out of being drafted into the squad.

    He probably won't get a call from Trap by the looks of it but that's another matter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,119 ✭✭✭✭event


    Nobody is saying he is world class, he is a bit of Kilbane type. Wont ever set the world alight but usually puts in a solid workman performance for us. It is blatantly clear that Hunt either will not play under Trap or that Trap has banned him for dissent.

    I reckon the first one being more likely.

    maybe in your head.
    i would consider it blatantly clear that he has left out some of the senior players to bring in younger ones.

    he has dropped duff and hunt and brought in coleman and treacy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,119 ✭✭✭✭event


    Why is this quote getting thanks from people? It's not a very clever post at all. Just because Hoolahan is 30 that shouldn't rule him out of being drafted into the squad.

    He probably won't get a call from Trap by the looks of it but that's another matter.

    because people agree with what he is saying :confused:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭the realpigiron


    event wrote: »
    because people agree with what he is saying :confused:

    Well if that's the case it just makes them wrong as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,478 ✭✭✭✭gnfnrhead


    Des wrote: »
    People calling for Hoolahan are retards imo.

    He is 30, so won't have very much time in the squad as it is.

    His time has passed, he should have been in the squad ten years ago, but most of the people calling for him never heard of him then, and didn't care, and laughed when LoI and Shels fan were saying it then.

    Typical.

    Trap definitely should look at a Hoolahan type player, but not Weso.

    He could easily do the job for two, maybe four, years and would be an upgrade on some of the players that get picked time and time again.

    Also, people who have a different opinion are retards? Seriously?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭the realpigiron


    gnfnrhead wrote: »
    He could easily do the job for two, maybe four, years and would be an upgrade on some of the players that get picked time and time again.

    Also, people who have a different opinion are retards? Seriously?

    That's another reason why I was questioning why people saw fit to thank that post. Not only was he wrong it was also a poor comment badly phrased.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,056 ✭✭✭applehunter


    Des wrote: »
    People calling for Hoolahan are retards imo.

    He is 30, so won't have very much time in the squad as it is.

    His time has passed, he should have been in the squad ten years ago, but most of the people calling for him never heard of him then, and didn't care, and laughed when LoI and Shels fan were saying it then.

    Typical.

    Trap definitely should look at a Hoolahan type player, but not Weso.

    Maybe your right.

    But on the other side he is now playing in the Premier League.

    30 is not that old anyway....:o


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 7,943 Mod ✭✭✭✭Yakult


    A grand ole(young) squad. No Complaints.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,119 ✭✭✭✭event


    Well if that's the case it just makes them wrong as well.

    well thats us told then


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭the realpigiron


    event wrote: »
    well thats us told then

    It's just a matter of opinion bud, in my opinion you are wrong.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭Samich


    Ugh, sick of reading traps crappy english already.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,224 ✭✭✭✭SantryRed


    That is the most retarded squad ever.

    O'Dea still hasn't got a club but still gets to play for Ireland? :confused:

    It's absolutely ridiculous. He gives a couple of players a chance, well we have to see if they're in the team yet, but still calls up McShane, O'Dea and Keogh to name a few.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,014 ✭✭✭✭Corholio


    As Pro F said earlier, Trap moves at a glacial pace both tactically and squad picking. Shouldn't really be surprised by now, just constant disappointment it is at this stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭Father Damo


    SantryRed wrote: »
    That is the most retarded squad ever.

    O'Dea still hasn't got a club but still gets to play for Ireland? :confused:
    .


    Green neither. Ireland- the economy is so fcuked even some of our professional footballers are on the dole :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,119 ✭✭✭✭event


    green signed for us.

    BTW, green always had a club. the deal was done with leeds before he left for the euros. it was just that his contract with Derby ended at end of MAy and didnt get chance to sign new one with us.

    Still a donkey though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,954 ✭✭✭Banjaxed82


    Doesn't matter who Trap calls up. If the system remains the same then it's all irrelevant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    People have the knives out for Trapp big time now I see. Won't matter what he does, people will find a problem with it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,014 ✭✭✭✭Corholio


    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    People have the knives out for Trapp big time now I see. Won't matter what he does, people will find a problem with it.

    No matter what he does? You watched the Euro's right?

    People were critics of Trap long before this. The thing is he'll never do, it seems, what most people want, freshening up the squad a bit, after a disastrous tournament in every regard. Nevermind the fact we're going into a harder group then the one we barely scraped out of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,518 ✭✭✭matrim


    Surprised Clark didn't get a call up. If we want a new back line I'd think we'd want to try bring him into it.

    Hopefully he starts to get proper game time at CB for Villa this year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    People have the knives out for Trapp big time now I see. Won't matter what he does, people will find a problem with it.

    Yep. Then when we're landed with an incompetent replacement after Trap leaves people will be saying we never should have let him go. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,477 ✭✭✭grenache


    Logical course of action is to call up Hoolahan, Pilkington and McCarthy. As usual, Trapattoni does the complete opposite, by retaining nothing players like Green and O'Shea and drops useful guys like Hunt. He is a clown and fans need to start voting with their feet. Why anyone would now attend a friendly or WC qualifier to watch that tripe is beyond me. I went to one qualifier and friendly in the last year. But will definitely not return as long as that dinosaur is our manager.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭Rhys Essien


    Paully D wrote: »
    Yep. Then when we're landed with an incompetent replacement after Trap leaves people will be saying we never should have let him go. :pac:

    No matter who comes in after Trap,that manager will find it hard to have a worst tournament than Trap had at Euro 2012 remember.

    Will it go down as our worst tournament ever(conseeding 9,scoring 1,points 0).POSSIBLY.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,640 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    grenache wrote: »
    Logical course of action is to call up Hoolahan, Pilkington and McCarthy. As usual, Trapattoni does the complete opposite, by retaining nothing players like Green and O'Shea and drops useful guys like Hunt. He is a clown and fans need to start voting with their feet. Why anyone would now attend a friendly or WC qualifier to watch that tripe is beyond me. I went to one qualifier and friendly in the last year. But will definitely not return as long as that dinosaur is our manager.

    He's called up McCarthy. And I don't see how you can argue logically to omit O'Shea from a squad considering the guy can play almost anywhere. He's hardly in the same bracket as Green.

    Pilkington and Hoolahan were never going to be a focal point for the team going forward. The rebuilding for 2014 imo needs to focus around the likes of Gibson, McClean, McCarthy, Kelly and Long and they are all in and may very well get their chance.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    No matter who comes in after Trap,that manager will find it hard to have a worst tournament than Trap had at Euro 2012 remember.

    Will it go down as our worst tournament ever(conseeding 9,scoring 1,points 0).POSSIBLY.

    Well they have to get their first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,477 ✭✭✭grenache


    Paully D wrote: »
    Well they have to get their first.
    I'd rather that we not if we play like that again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,224 ✭✭✭✭SantryRed


    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    People have the knives out for Trapp big time now I see. Won't matter what he does, people will find a problem with it.

    I've always had it in for Trap. Not starting since the Euros.


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