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  • 20-07-2012 4:45pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 109 ✭✭


    Hi can anyone explain this condition to me, there is a site I am looking to buy with this condition on it. I at present live 2 mile from the site for 6 years and my home house (mums)is 6 km away could I still be within the distance required. No section no 47 on this if this info helps, I can not find planning regulations anyw online.. Many thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,097 ✭✭✭rayjdav


    Rionn,
    Have a look online for your own county CDP and they will define what their own stipulation and definition is locally.
    If it is not a Section 47 can you paste the actual wording of the Condition and you will get more defined answers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 109 ✭✭rionn


    That the thing I do not have a copy of all the plans should I ask your man selling the site to give me all documents before we meet with a solicitor tks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,097 ✭✭✭rayjdav


    Why not go online and you should be able to see all documents and drawings lodged and also the grant of the permission by the council and read from it the conditions??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 109 ✭✭rionn


    Cheers Rayj for giving your advice as you can prob already see I have know idea on what directions to be taking as have never been threw the process of buying house or site before. On the co planning site its says the planning application is unconditional.

    It has just been renewed the former application had 7 conditions 1 been had to be member of rural location. The man selling the site gave me the papers of the old application does this mean I would be free to buy this site with no conditions.

    Would you have any opinions on weather I should hold of buying a site, do you think they will cvome down in line with house.

    The site was advertised for 30000 but he has agreed to sell it to me for 21500 my prob is there is houses in my area selling for 65000, I have no interest in these houses selling at 62000 as I want this to be my final move so it needs to be the right house

    Tks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,097 ✭✭✭rayjdav


    Best thing to suggest is to get someone local who actually knows what they are doing have a look at the file for you. Cant see the text of the grant so not too sure what you are saying tbh.

    Re the price, if he was asking 30k, now willing to sell for 21.5K, offer him 10K, or less. What have you to loose in the deal. He is the one who wants to sell. Simple really.

    You will have Council contributions to pay so another important thing to see whats owed. If outline permission, chances they are not noted but once again a local AT can let you know what these will be.

    If you do agree to purchase, make sure it is completely on the understanding that it is subject to planning. Do not hand over spondoolicks until this is in the bag.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 109 ✭✭rionn


    Great think will go in with a price of 19000 have tried before but he turned it down but be worth another try, the co council development charges are paid with this site and the site invaluation has been done and paid which is included in the price. I will get a solicitor to look things over. cheers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,550 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    rionn wrote: »
    Great think will go in with a price of 19000 have tried before but he turned it down but be worth another try, the co council development charges are paid with this site and the site invaluation has been done and paid which is included in the price. I will get a solicitor to look things over. cheers
    Are you sure about the development contributions being paid? Have you seen the receipt from the council and that the amount on the receipt matches the amount conditioned on the planning permission? Its highly unusual for anyone to pay the contributions before work commences and more so if they are selling the site because the contributions are based on the house size and you could, for example, apply for permission for a change of house type with the house being bigger or smaller than the house originally approved.

    Satisfying the requirements of being indigenous to the area can be a little complex but is set out in paragraphs 1, 2, 3, 4 and 6 of Policy RH2 in the County Development Plan 2006- 2012. Basically if you have been born in the area and have lived there for at least 7 years then that is acceptable. Likewise you would qualify if your parents were from the area. If you and/or your spouse/partner are employed in the agricultural sector then that is another qualifying point as are returned immigrants.

    You, your parents or your grandparents would had to have been born or lived in the area for a minimum period of 7 years. The "area" is defined as being within 2 DEDs (district electoral divisions) of the DED in which the site is located.

    In summary you have to demonstrate roots to the area and a need for a house in that area.

    Is the site in the Newton, Burt, Carrigans, Bridgened general area?


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