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Aurora Cinema Massacre Eyewitness Suggests Accomplice

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭RMD


    I'd look at this from 2 parts 1) Unexplained tear gas canister 2) Costume

    1) Yes this could have been an accomplish, perhaps even who was later murdered by the killer so it hasn't been clearly identified yet. I'd like to see how the information develops over the next few days. If there was an accomplice there'd be many more reports of this though I'd think. Alternatively it could have been thrown by him and bounced off an object changing it's trajectory appearance.

    2) It was a movie premier with a large following. To show up in his reported costume consisting of a gas mask, riot helmet and wearing all black. Eyewitnesses stated they initially thought it was a form of some special effects. Reports also states he came in through an emergency exit, I'd wait for more info to develop on this before making assumptions, it could easily just have been left open.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Not saying I agree fully with AJ on this one but he dose come up with some valid points.



    One thing for sure this incident will be ridden by the Obama admin to invoke further fascist controls including the further roll out of TSA and of course the scrapping of the 2nd amendment. (One must remember similar gun banning moves were drafted in my the Nazi and Stalinist regimes)

    Is it another case of the usual.....Problem - Reaction - Solution.

    Some of the posters replies are quite interesting.

    Its 100% clear that this is a staged event considering the following.

    1. Emergency door construction. Door opens outwards by fire code. Kicking in the door would require it to come off the hinges. (Maybe if he used his car to open it.)

    2. UN gun control treaty just around the corner and only a few more votes were needed to make it manifest into reality.

    3. Bloomberg was ready to throw the situation to the Presidential candidates to see what “Big Brother” will do about guns and how to get them out of the hands of citizens.

    4.An otherwise seemingly model citizen other than one traffic violation throws away entire future to go on killing spree.

    5. Military documented “Planned Terrorist Attacks at Home” to manipulate the population to further their agenda.
    6.MSM ready with propaganda extremely quickly after the event occurred.

    I just hope that everyone understands that if everyone was using their 2nd amendment rights at that theater, that shooter would have been dead before he would have had the opportunity to hurt & kill that many people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,715 ✭✭✭DB21


    RtdH, I'm going to take the infraction for this, cause it'll be worth it; You, sir, are an inconsiderate scumbag intent on pushing an agenda. You have the temerity, little boy, to accuse mainstream media of scaremongering, yet here you stand, parroting pure bullshit so you can keep your non-existent fear flowing. 12 people were shot DEAD, dead, you bastard, one of them was a 12 year old kid, ffs, and you want to use it to keep your conspiracy agenda going? Words fail me, you pathetic worm.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    DB21 wrote: »
    12 people were shot DEAD, dead, you bastard, one of them was a 12 year old kid, ffs, and you want to use it to keep your conspiracy agenda going? Words fail me, you pathetic worm.

    And yes 2,977 innocent victims were also slaughtered on September 11th 2001


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    Alex Jones is a tit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭RMD


    So RtdH essentially what you're saying is every American should go around with arms? Let's think about this situation for a moment with a coherent mindset.

    A man enters a movie theatre, begins to watch the movie and eventually rises from his seat, throws tear gas and begins to shoot those running for the doors. Nobody but him can see clearly as he is the only one wearing a gas mask, meaning only he is protected from the blinding tear gas. Now if many people there were carrying concealed arms and began to shoot at him they're either miss or hit someone else and that's if they're lucky enough to be able to differentiate him from anyone else due to their lack of vision in an already darkened theatre. So as more and more shots begin to go off others with concealed arms begin to shoot at whoever they think is doing the shooting, in their darkened, blind and confused state this is anyone with a gun be it civilian or murderer.

    If everyone there embraced the 2nd amendment we'd have a much higher number of dead. This event occurred because it was so piss easy for this man to get his hands on weapons.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    RMD wrote: »
    So RtdH essentially what you're saying is every American should go around with arms? Let's think about this situation for a moment with a coherent mindset.
    It will come a time in the not so distant future when the ordinary citizens of America will not be able to defend themselves from the real enemy and that is the US Government. This is just a repeat of what happened in Europe between 1939 and 1945.

    And if you don't believe the above, the US authorities have now got the right to shut down the internet, radio communications, take over your property, transportation land, air and sea and all telecommunicationin a state of emergency.

    Another interesting angle of this incident from Zen Gardener.

    Batman Shooting Foretold In 1986 “Dark Knight” Comic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭RMD


    It will come a time in the not so distant future when the ordinary citizens of America will not be able to defend themselves from the real enemy and that is the US Government. This is just a repeat of what happened in Europe between 1939 and 1945.

    And if you don't believe the above, the US authorities have now got the right to shut down the internet, radio communications, take over your property, transportation land, air and sea and all telecommunicationin a state of emergency.

    Another interesting angle of this incident from Zen Gardener.

    Batman Shooting Foretold In 1986 “Dark Knight” Comic

    If you think the ordinary citizens of America are currently capable of beating their own security services you really are insane.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    RMD wrote: »
    If you think the ordinary citizens of America are currently capable of beating their own security services you really are insane.

    And that's the agenda, so that they can kick down doors and intern subversives indefinitely with the minimum resistance should there be an attempted coup.

    The camps are ready so it is only just a matter of time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,771 ✭✭✭Dude111


    Not saying I agree fully with AJ on this one but he dose come up with some valid points.
    Indeed he does my friend!!

    Several strange things about this!!

    1) A UN gun treaty is near

    2) THE COPS WERE @ THAT CINEMA LAST WEEK CHECKING PEOPLE'S TICKETS AS THEY WENT IN!! (I heard this earlier) WHY WOULD THEY BE DOING THAT???

    3) They just advised "Worldwide Caution" a few days ago

    4) They showed up WITHIN 1 MINUTE!! (The cops)
    the US authorities have now got the right to shut down the internet, radio communications, take over your property, transportation land, air and sea and all telecommunicationin a state of emergency.
    Indeed....They are the most corrupt IN THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!! -- Most ppl here (sheeple) do not believe it and its sad.....

    Im just about @ the point I WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY SHEEP!!!! (They disgust me and are 1 reason things are the way they are)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,312 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    Dude111 wrote: »
    ......

    Several strange things about this!!

    .......

    2) THE COPS WERE @ THAT CINEMA LAST WEEK CHECKING PEOPLE'S TICKETS AS THEY WENT IN!! (I heard this earlier) WHY WOULD THEY BE DOING THAT???

    ......
    Perhaps because someone had been mugged and their tickets stolen? I didn't hear this possibility by the way - it just came to me out of the ether.

    My 2c: Sick people sometimes do sick things. Heavily armed sick people sometimes do very sick things.

    My prediction: Hollywood will never make a movie about this sad event.

    Not your ornery onager



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,039 ✭✭✭rmacm


    Lovely...10-14 people dead and all RtDH can post about is some sort of conspiracy yet no sympathy for those who lost their lives.

    You sir are a completely reprehensible character....if ever your god comes to judge you there will be a special place in hell for you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    rmacm wrote: »
    Lovely...10-14 people dead and all RtDH can post about is some sort of conspiracy yet no sympathy for those who lost their lives.

    You sir are a completely reprehensible character....if ever your god comes to judge you there will be a special place in hell for you.

    Dooh, posting a conspiracy in a conspiracy theory forum. :rolleyes:

    And yes I offer my condolences to those that were murdered due to this elitist act of false flag terrorism.

    And yes, rampant Wickedness and Evil will preside mankind in the Last Days.

    "And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible." Isaiah 13:11


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,771 ✭✭✭Dude111


    Well i dunno,i think he does care about the ppl dying :(


    We all do right? Just alot of strange things about it thats all........


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,039 ✭✭✭rmacm


    Dooh, posting a conspiracy in a conspiracy theory forum. :rolleyes:

    And yes I offer my condolences to those that were murdered due to this elitist agenda and yes unfortunately many more innocent lives will be lost through false flag terrorism.

    And yes, rampant Wickedness and Evil in the Last Days.

    "And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible." Isaiah 13:11

    Despite what you may think or believe we are not in the end of days...your god is not coming to judge the rest of us and you are not going to end up in some kind of nirvana. You post continual ****e here without any ability to back up what you post. One post and then copy pasta from the original is your modus operandi....how about you start engaging in the forum instead?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    rmacm wrote: »
    You post continual ****e here without any ability to back up what you post. One post and then copy pasta from the original is your modus operandi....how about you start engaging in the forum instead?
    What links do you expect me to back up my posts with, The Daily Sheeple AKA Fox news or the BBC :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,749 ✭✭✭weisses


    rmacm wrote: »
    You sir are a completely reprehensible character....if ever your god comes to judge you there will be a special place in hell for you.

    Cristianity forum is a few doors down

    This is a Conspiracy theory forum ffs Im glad he posts stuff like that in here ... not that i always agree but still

    And there are thousends and thousends of people dying every day do to actions of other people ... And i dont see any of you who are now jumping on RTDH being disgusted about that fact


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Jonny7


    weisses wrote: »
    Cristianity forum is a few doors down

    This is a Conspiracy theory forum ffs Im glad he posts stuff like that in here ... not that i always agree but still

    Not seeing much of a difference between the two..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Dooh, posting a conspiracy in a conspiracy theory forum. :rolleyes:

    And yes I offer my condolences to those that were murdered due to this elitist act of false flag terrorism.

    And yes, rampant Wickedness and Evil will preside mankind in the Last Days.

    "And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible." Isaiah 13:11

    The problem with what you are pushing in this thread is that you have absolutely nothing to back it up thus far, you have done, and will do, no investigation into it yourself, you will simply wait to see what muppets like Alex Jones say, then agree with him and post it as fact.

    If you have some actual proof (which would be pretty hard to come by right now dont you think) that this was a false flag operation then put it up here.

    I wont hold my breath of course, a little knowledge is a very dangerous thing unfortunately and that is what people like you posses, simply skimming over a topic, doing a quick google search and listening to what idiots with agendas have to say and being influenced and maniupulated by it so easily is a lot of what is wrong with the world.

    People do need to actually start using their brain again for themselves, I repeat, going through conspracy websites and swallowing whatever is being fed to you over and over again does not make you more aware of how the world works, it does not give you a greater level of intelligence then anybody else, it actually makes yuou dumber then most people, or at least a hell of a lot more gullible then the "sheeple" that you and those like you snigger and laugh at.

    Tragedys are going to happen, there will normally be a multitude of reasons behind them going back a long way into someones psych and development, of course it is just easier to pretend everything bad that happens is the work of some evil unseen force in a greater plan that they have. Much like it was for people to say that everything good that happens is because God wills it and if something bad happens it is because He moves in mysterious ways. That he has a plan etc

    It is all simplistic crap dumbed down to the lowest common denominator so that is will be easily swallowed by those with a disposition to manipulation. It takes more then regurgetating someone elses agenda driven theory to make you enlightened.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    kryogen wrote: »
    The problem with what you are pushing in this thread is that you have absolutely nothing to back it up thus far, you have done, and will do, no investigation into it yourself, you will simply wait to see what muppets like Alex Jones say, then agree with him and post it as fact.
    Again what do you expect me to do, publish main stream media documents, a conspiracy theory can only be built up with what material becomes available and no doubt we well be getting more reports coming in as the story develops just as we had with 9/11.

    I quoted several different alternative media sources so what more do you expect.

    As I have stated before this attack is all a part of the Obama admin's fascist objective to justify gun tighter control and enslavement upon the masses. It is only the beginning and no doubt we will see more spectaculars as the election date draws closer.

    If the US government was so concerned about keeping sanity they would chase after the real culprits behind all of this, ie the godfathers behind the entertainment machine. They obviously won't do this as this is what keeps the wheels of their objective in motion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Again what do you expect me to do, publish main stream media documents, a conspiracy theory can only be built up with what material becomes available and no doubt we well be getting more reports coming in as the story develops just as we had with 9/11.

    I quoted several different alternative media sources so what more do you expect.

    What do I want you to do? Form your own opinion by doing extensive research into a subject rather then simply parroting someone elses agenda.

    You have already stated that this is all part of a wider agenda, Obamas fascims etc, you have stated that as fact, where is your proof? You can believe anything you want, stating something as fact is quite different.

    You have no respect whatsoever for anything mainstream media puts out, that is clear from what you say about them, but why do you respect AJ any more?

    If anything he has a very clear agenda, a very clear bias and is very very very far from being an independant observer of things, he does not report the news, manipulates situations and twists things to suit his already defined agenda.

    How is that different from what you think mainstream media (which is far from perfect) does?

    Why does linking or copy pasting something from him have more relevance then The Daily Sheeple AKA Fox and whatever else you said?

    You say Fox has an agenda, you could be right, Alex Jones certainly has an agenda so how does he become more reliable?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    kryogen wrote: »
    What do I want you to do? Form your own opinion by doing extensive research into a subject rather then simply parroting someone elses agenda.

    You have already stated that this is all part of a wider agenda, Obamas fascims etc, you have stated that as fact, where is your proof? You can believe anything you want, stating something as fact is quite different.

    You have no respect whatsoever for anything mainstream media puts out, that is clear from what you say about them, but why do you respect AJ any more?
    And I think along the same minds as Alex Jones, David Iche and Zen Gardener, when something big hits the headlines.

    I can usually guess in advance what is going to be published in both the alternative media. I cam also guess about what lies and cover ups one will find in Mainstream media. ie what the press are told to say. This is evident in perhaps most major of the false flag events since 9/11 which would include Bali, Madrid, 7/7 Mumbai and possibly the Olympics or its aftermath


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    And I think along the same minds as Alex Jones, David Iche and Zen Gardener, when something big hits the headlines. I put 2 + 2 together.

    I can usually guess in advance what is going to be published in both the alternative media. I cam also guess about what lies and cover ups one will find in Mainstream media. ie what the press are told to say. This is evident in perhaps most major of the false flag events since 9/11 which would include Bali, Madrid, 7/7 Mumbai and possibly the Olympics or the immediate aftermath

    So, because you think along the same minds as people who have been shown up to be fake, believe in lizards controlling the earth from within and that the world has been ending for about 20 years now they are more reliable?

    Ok............

    Lots put 2+2 together, plenty come up with 5.

    I can usually guess what Alex Jones/Michael Tsarion/Jordan Maxwell will have to say about an event after it happens, what difference does it make?


    Edit: Also, as you didnt respond to dispute it, I take it you accept that the media you choose to believe also has a very clear and defined agenda, but thas ok because it suits what you would like to believe? Its ok to be biased if your telling you what you want to hear?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭Joeyjoejoe43


    Dear god, Have I read the above correctly??? Run to the Hills, you my friend have a deranged view of reality. I suppose the moon landing was a fake too, was it? And the US Government are behind 9/11?? You should go and check out Jim Corr's website, I'd say ye'd have quite a bit in common. But, to get back to the topic of conversation in this thread, American gun law is quite clearly a factor in atrocities such as Columbine, Virgin Tech and most recently Aurora. When you get offered an AK47 when you buy a truck or a handgun when opening a bank account, you know there is a problem with gun law. Any educated person in the world, should be able to draw this conclusion. If American gun law is changed, I forecast in the longer term, once the existing guns are retrieved in Amnesties etc, that deaths and atrocities will decrease. Less guns, quite simply implies less deaths, it is quite simple really.

    Here is a simple analogy:
    Scenario A: An extremely overweight person has there fridge full of cakes, pies, beers and many other high-fat goods. At some point, they are likely to be tempted to go to the fridge for food and will inevitably eat the cakes, pies etc, if the choice is there for them.

    Scenario B: They have healthy food in the fridge. When they are hungry they will go to the fridge and make a healthy snack.

    The same can be said about gun crime, gun accidents etc... Yes the cops in the US need guns, citizens do not, it is a CRAZY situation that they can bear arms. This is not rocket science.

    Just to add, there are obviously myriad reasons behind a catastrophe like this, like upbringing, western medication, psychology etc, but IMO gun law is part of the problem, and a big part at that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    kryogen wrote: »
    Edit: Also, as you didnt respond to dispute it, I take it you accept that the media you choose to believe also has a very clear and defined agenda, but thas ok because it suits what you would like to believe? Its ok to be biased if your telling you what you want to hear?

    The media that i would rather believe in would have a quite clear agenda and that would be to expose corruption and to enlighten people about what lies ahead when it comes to totalitarian control and enslavement of the masses and it doesn't take much to figure that out.

    The recent EO from the Obama admin concerning the ability to take over of the internet only appeared in one UK tabloid yet it was well documented in almost every alternative news site


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    The media that i would rather believe in would have a quite clear agenda and that would be to expose corruption and to enlighten people about what lies ahead when it comes to totalitarian control and enslavement of the masses and it doesn't take much to figure that out.

    Simply wanting to believe something doesnt make it true


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,749 ✭✭✭weisses


    kryogen wrote: »
    Simply wanting to believe something doesnt make it true

    Take that same attitude to the Christianity forum ... see how far you get in there


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    Why are people using this as an opportunity to abuse runtodahills? He didn't kill anyone. If he thinks X happened because of Y then it is no more disrespectful to the dead than any of you lot thinking X happened because of Y.

    And if you can't handle seeing conspiracy theories being discussed then you know what you should do... Would you go into a strip club and then whinge about the nudity?

    FWIW, I don't see any legitimate reason to consider this false-flag attack. Yes, there are anti-gun campaigners who will milk the event (not neccessarily a bad thing IMO). If there is a conspiracy I suspect it might be downplaying the role of prescription medication to protect the industry.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Right, I'm locking this. The basic facts of the case are still being uncovered, so there's no real point claiming conspiracy just yet. It's a touchy subject and tempers are flaring, so if nothing else, my closing this will give some of you time to calm down.


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