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how much per acre for silage ground?

  • 20-07-2012 10:39am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 95 ✭✭


    Hi

    I have about 6 acres for silage ground to let, unfertilised, but a good crop on it. A neighbour is calling to have a look at it tomorrow.

    How much per acre is the going rate?

    Thanks in advance


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,237 ✭✭✭Username John


    bouli73 wrote: »
    Hi

    I have about 6 acres for silage ground to let, unfertilised, but a good crop on it. A neighbour is calling to have a look at it tomorrow.

    How much per acre is the going rate?

    Thanks in advance

    The numbers I have heard are
    €100 - first cut
    €60 - 70 - second cut

    Its hard to say whether we are second cut now, but I wouldn't say its first cut... :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 95 ✭✭bouli73


    its first cut. I grazed the ground earlier in the year


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,237 ✭✭✭Username John


    bouli73 wrote: »
    its first cut. I grazed the ground earlier in the year

    Hi Bouli,

    I meant more than it wouldn't be worth first cut prices, given we are into the end of July almost. I would have said first cut prices apply to silage cut before end June?
    But that's just my opinion, I may be wrong... :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 95 ✭✭bouli73


    Hi Bouli,

    I meant more than it wouldn't be worth first cut prices, given we are into the end of July almost. I would have said first cut prices apply to silage cut before end June?
    But that's just my opinion, I may be wrong... :p


    Thanks John. Hopefully I will get a price somewhere between, circa €80 per acre would do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 892 ✭✭✭grange mac


    had 10 acres, & too much grass, put it on paper for €500 as was grazed a few months ago & no fert on it...phone is still ringing 2 weeks later...but sold to local farmer and he will be handy in the future...
    oh yeah also got the "thats robbery phonecalls"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭JohnBoy


    if you priced it at €200 you'd still have lads on telling you twas only worth a hundred.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 931 ✭✭✭Manoffeeling


    I am thinking of setting silage gound. No manure and half grazed until the end of June. No point in charging a per acre basis. Was thinking of maybe a fiver a bale for the grass and let them do work. Is this fair?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭jimmy G M


    I am thinking of setting silage gound. No manure and half grazed until the end of June. No point in charging a per acre basis. Was thinking of maybe a fiver a bale for the grass and let them do work. Is this fair?

    Did this last year and got €8 per bale, but meadow had gotten manure was a good crop - aprox 150 bales from 12 acres. Ok yours not the same but €5 per bale seems cheap.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 931 ✭✭✭Manoffeeling


    jimmy G M wrote: »
    Did this last year and got €8 per bale, but meadow had gotten manure was a good crop - aprox 150 bales from 12 acres. Ok yours not the same but €5 per bale seems cheap.


    I understand, but it wasn't topped and is all tranianes. I have 2 neighbours who are interested and are also fairly sound. The wheel always turns. No point in being foolish thou.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 631 ✭✭✭ootbitb


    Tranianes???

    Men in frocks calling themselves Ann?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 95 ✭✭bouli73


    agreed price at €75 per acre. happy with that. once i get the going rate, not looking for anymore


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    bouli73 wrote: »
    agreed price at €75 per acre. happy with that. once i get the going rate, not looking for anymore

    I would consider that well above the going rate for the quality of the product so well done


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,716 ✭✭✭1chippy


    Theres arguments for both sides on that sort of price 75 to me would seem fairly high for a cut this time of year. then again i know i'm miserable. e8 a bale seems dear too, i know when you factor in costs to get that e8 it doesnt seem much however if you put on cutting costs, baling, wrapping, drawing them in and all you would be better off buying bales at e20 and get them as you need them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    1chippy wrote: »
    Theres arguments for both sides on that sort of price 75 to me would seem fairly high for a cut this time of year. then again i know i'm miserable. e8 a bale seems dear too, i know when you factor in costs to get that e8 it doesnt seem much however if you put on cutting costs, baling, wrapping, drawing them in and all you would be better off buying bales at e20 and get them as you need them.

    By the look of it there will be very few bales at e20 this year and there will be some muck out there. You could also be hauling a lot of water around the country for cattle. So for something you have control over and if it was dry land that it was coming off 8 euro's might not be expensive especially if you can get a good wilt. And also a good baler lad this year changed contractors got I think about 5 less bale to the acre and they got a way less wilt to normal. His previous contractor was e6 the new fella 7.50 so it was costing him about 136/acre as opposed to162/acre


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭JohnBoy


    the funny thing is that unfertilised silage is worth so much more per acre than fertilised (after you discount the cost of the fertiliser)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 875 ✭✭✭f140


    how much would second cut be worth which has just been closed and is just after receiving 2.5 bags of cut swart. im looking to but so wondering what shouldi offer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭JohnBoy


    Has just been closed? so will be fit when? at this stage in the year is it gonna be closer to third cut silage.

    cost of fert+spreading+margin+value of grass

    2.5 bags spread is gonna be around €70 I think so €130 or so an acre.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 760 ✭✭✭CHOPS01


    bouli73 wrote: »
    Hi

    I have about 6 acres for silage ground to let, unfertilised, but a good crop on it. A neighbour is calling to have a look at it tomorrow.

    How much per acre is the going rate?

    Thanks in advance

    Similar ground to the above. Going to see if there is anyone around interested. Handy money will do. It's more to clean the place off that anything else.
    €50/60 an acre seem fair ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 760 ✭✭✭CHOPS01


    Lad taking the grass. Giving us €5 per bale that he takes off it.
    Happy enough with that. Is that about right


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    CHOPS01 wrote: »
    Lad taking the grass. Giving us €5 per bale that he takes off it.
    Happy enough with that. Is that about right
    Unless it's pure rubbish the usual amount is €10/bale.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    I have hear of cases this year of lads getting meadows for free. Silage ex field for 15-17/bale. Heard a story that hay was available ex field for 12/bales in some area's. There seems to be a lot of excess fodder around.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭AP2014


    I have hear of cases this year of lads getting meadows for free. Silage ex field for 15-17/bale. Heard a story that hay was available ex field for 12/bales in some area's. There seems to be a lot of excess fodder around.

    Lads must be stupid or have short memories. Would they not at least make hay or silage and store it for a year or two if not needed. Fellas could be begging them for fodder in a year or two.

    A few extra dry stock to graze for a few months would be an option as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 760 ✭✭✭CHOPS01


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    Unless it's pure rubbish the usual amount is €10/bale.

    Tis a mixed lot. It's far from prime meadowing.No fertilizer on it in 2 years so happy to be getting it cleaned off and a few euro for it.
    Better cattle eating after grass in a month's time than grass now that's gone too strong.


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