Worming calves

reilig

Anybody worming calves this weather?
What age calves are you doing and what are you using?

whelan1

did the suckler calves with qualimec lastweek, these where varying from january to april born

pakalasa

I did the spring born suckler calves about a week ago with Noromectin Pour-On. I got 3 fine days so hopefully ok. I normally do them in mid June as I notice them starting to cough. I kept waiting and waiting for a fine spell...you know yerself. They well needed the dose now, as they are coughing mad with the dead worms at the moment.

Conflats

Always do the calves here in july with some form of ivonmec vary in age from jan to march born, don't like chancing fate with them not done to risky

Farmer Pudsey

pakalasa wrote: »

I did the spring born suckler calves about a week ago with Noromectin Pour-On. I got 3 fine days so hopefully ok. I normally do them in mid June as I notice them starting to cough. I kept waiting and waiting for a fine spell...you know yerself. They well needed the dose now, as they are coughing mad with the dead worms at the moment.

You should have oral dosed or else levcide pour on as they paralyse the worms and kill them slowly so it gives them a chance to cough them out. Them a fortnight later an ivermectin wormer. This year with the wet weather and the fact you are delaying because you are trying to use a pour on you would want to be careful also more worms because of weather

redzerologhlen

Havnt done our calves yet but used panacur last year and found it very good, no harm to change from ivermectin based products every now and again.

whelan1

went over an hour ago to run in 17 friesian heifer calves to dose them, theres a lunatic of an aberdeen angus pedigree calf- not long weaned- with them . After 50 minutes of running i gave up.... normally i wouldnt let them get the better of me but ffs this was torture couldnt get them out of the field... these are quiet calves on meal but the angus had the driven mad

Muckit

whelan1 wrote: »

went over an hour ago to run in 17 friesian heifer calves to dose them, theres a lunatic of an aberdeen angus pedigree calf- not long weaned- with them . After 50 minutes of running i gave up.... normally i wouldnt let them get the better of me but ffs this was torture couldnt get them out of the field... these are quiet calves on meal but the angus had the driven mad

4 legs vs 2 legs... no chance! Human brain vs cow brain...

whelan1

Muckit wrote: »

4 legs vs 2 legs... no chance! Human brain vs cow brain...

was 3 adults and 2 kids after them.... i was going to bring in the jeep but my dad said no that it might put them through the fence in to the neighbours:mad:

grumpyfarmer

whelan1 wrote: »

Muckit wrote: »

4 legs vs 2 legs... no chance! Human brain vs cow brain...

was 3 adults and 2 kids after them.... i was going to bring in the jeep but my dad said no that it might put them through the fence in to the neighbours:mad:

Do you have any pigtail stakes and twine wire to funnel them to the gate?

whelan1

there are 3 gates that we could take them in...... used a big double trough-steel- to edge them towards the gate( this was against the gate to funnel them in) was going grand til the angus scarpered... tried them in one of the other gates a few times but she kept running away, would have left her behind but she kept taking 2 of the others with her.... also the first gate brings them on to a road so 2 people are needed there so reduces the help in the field....

bob charles

whelan1 wrote: »

was 3 adults and 2 kids after them.... i was going to bring in the jeep but my dad said no that it might put them through the fence in to the neighbours:mad:

one man and his dog is all you need

Dozer1

Used Noromectin Pour-On aswell on the calves last week, they were in the shed so should hopefully work well enough.

bbam

We tend to use oral drench when they're out and pour-on or injection when they are in... Mix it up a bit..

blue5000

Our suckler calves have been dosed twice so far, due again this weekend. Doing them with a white dose this year every three weeks, used an ivermectin last yr.

Is anyone on here doing faecal egg counts?

Atilathehun

bob charles wrote: »

whelan1 wrote: »

was 3 adults and 2 kids after them.... i was going to bring in the jeep but my dad said no that it might put them through the fence in to the neighbours:mad:

one man and his dog is all you need

One man and a bag even better!!!
And if you haven't a bag, to be able to make a noise like one would help!

whelan1

Atilathehun wrote: »

One man and a bag even better!!!
And if you haven't a bag, to be able to make a noise like one would help!

HAD A BUCKET- some of them would follow you but then the wagon would head off

whelan1

got the lunatics done this morning, quiet as lambs:) they walked out the gate on to the public road no probs ,the angus kicked back when i put the pouron on her:o got her seperated from them and back with her comrades... happy out and no animals or humans where harmed in the process

TUBBY

Did the weanling bull calves with the Levafas Diamond there few weeks back for the rumen fluke and mature worms. Did it last year for first time and found it a great job. Follow up after 2-3 weeks with Ivomec Classic pour-on just to get rid of any lingering ones and also for mites/ ticks etc.

Found to my cost few years back that going at young cattle straight with the Ivermectin killed the worms too quick and if they had a bad burden, it caused pneumonia. Since that, have used the drench first to lessen the kick.

haybob

bbam wrote: »

We tend to use oral drench when they're out and pour-on or injection when they are in... Mix it up a bit..

I do that too, simply because I find cattle coming out of a shed harder to handle

limo_100

wel lads i dosed all the calves a 3-4weeks with kilo-mec. In the last week or so they've started coughing again should i do them again? should i get them the better stuff as in ivomec super? surely it wouldn't be fluke would it??

Farmer Pudsey

limo_100 wrote: »

wel lads i dosed all the calves a 3-4weeks with kilo-mec. In the last week or so they've started coughing again should i do them again? should i get them the better stuff as in ivomec super? surely it wouldn't be fluke would it??

How long is it since you dosed them . If they are coughing it sounds like lungworm. Are they bucket fed or sucklers. kilomec is the same as ordinary Ivomec just a generic form. Ivomec Super is an expensive injection to kill worms and mature fluke. Coughing is not a symptom of fluke it is rather a symptom of either worms or peunomia. If all have it I suspect lungworm. Dose again 1mil/50kgs minimum 2mils. I tend to overdose rather than under dose. This applies to bucket fed calves

Suckler calves are different I use a drench or levicide pour-on as this will kill the worms slowly . Even with bucket fed calves I would drench now and again.

mahoney_j

Dosed all my calves with bimectin in early May,Coughing again 3 weeks later,Went in with zearl pour on.Did them again last week and only the slightest hint of a cough.Cheap doses aint the answer

Farmer Pudsey

The only difference between Bimectin/kilomec/Animectin and Ivomec other than the name is the price. Roundup is the same as Gallup/Rosetta/Clearall/Rambo. Generic products are the same as orginal brands.

The biggest issue with these is immunity where after time cattle/plants become immume to the product. This happen where people fail to use correct strengths.

For instance I see some people starting to gave issue with Docks and ordinary roundup.

limo_100

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

How long is it since you dosed them . If they are coughing it sounds like lungworm. Are they bucket fed or sucklers. kilomec is the same as ordinary Ivomec just a generic form. Ivomec Super is an expensive injection to kill worms and mature fluke. Coughing is not a symptom of fluke it is rather a symptom of either worms or peunomia. If all have it I suspect lungworm. Dose again 1mil/50kgs minimum 2mils. I tend to overdose rather than under dose. This applies to bucket fed calves

Suckler calves are different I use a drench or levicide pour-on as this will kill the worms slowly . Even with bucket fed calves I would drench now and again.

there bucket calves on after grass and they were done about 3weeks ago. is there any down the neck doses for the job that are any good??

Bodacious

redzerologhlen wrote: »

Havnt done our calves yet but used panacur last year and found it very good, no harm to change from ivermectin based products every now and again.

I got 5 litres of levacide drench in Connaught Gold Coop for E16.50 ... 50ml per 100kg ... So gave all calves that along with pour on for flies/ticks

limo_100

Bodacious wrote: »

I got 5 litres of levacide drench in Connaught Gold Coop for E16.50 ... 50ml per 100kg ... So gave all calves that along with pour on for flies/ticks

and did you have good results. that stuff is cheap was it on offer

leg wax

dosed all spring born calves for the second time yesterday we did them with cydectin and should get us to housing,all gone to new after grass.

munkus

Bodacious wrote: »

I got 5 litres of levacide drench in Connaught Gold Coop for E16.50 ... 50ml per 100kg ... So gave all calves that along with pour on for flies/ticks

Jesus, you'd drown half of them giving that wopper of an amount

redzerologhlen

Bodacious wrote: »

I got 5 litres of levacide drench in Connaught Gold Coop for E16.50 ... 50ml per 100kg ... So gave all calves that along with pour on for flies/ticks

I did half our calves last week and a few breeding heifers that were coughing with levacide injection, tis cheap stuff. Be interesting to see how well it works now because I havent used it before. I thought the panacur was very good last year.

Dampintheattic

redzerologhlen wrote: »

I did half our calves last week and a few breeding heifers that were coughing with levacide injection, tis cheap stuff. Be interesting to see how well it works now because I havent used it before. I thought the panacur was very good last year.

It's excellent stuff. I use it every second year. Right value for money.

Richk2012

Dosed them with curazole early on in the year and done them all again with normectin injection yesterday .

Heres a question though , it says once seal is broached use within 28 days .
DO or Dont ????????

I asked the vet about this last year and he said its not true , and its only an incentive for us to buy more products .
He said just go by the best before ....

I had a bottle of Lutalyse and it had similar instructions .
I used it when it was open much longer than the shelf life stated and it still brought the cow in heat .

Whats the verdict with the normectin as i have alot left over and wont need it for another while ????

Lastin

seal the cap with selotape

Farmer Pudsey

Richk2012 wrote: »

Dosed them with curazole early on in the year and done them all again with normectin injection yesterday .

Heres a question though , it says once seal is broached use within 28 days .
DO or Dont ????????

I asked the vet about this last year and he said its not true , and its only an incentive for us to buy more products .
He said just go by the best before ....

I had a bottle of Lutalyse and it had similar instructions .
I used it when it was open much longer than the shelf life stated and it still brought the cow in heat .

Whats the verdict with the normectin as i have alot left over and wont need it for another while ????

It will be Ok I often used it months later. If it will be open maybe a year seal top with candle wax. Storage is more important cool place away from sunlight and frost.

There some exceptions with some medicine such as vaxcines and anti-biotics etc . With Vaxcines use a clean needle to draw seal with candle wax and store in fridge

Bodacious

redzerologhlen wrote: »

I did half our calves last week and a few breeding heifers that were coughing with levacide injection, tis cheap stuff. Be interesting to see how well it works now because I havent used it before. I thought the panacur was very good last year.

I used the levacide injection on yearlings and calves found it good only draw back was the amount of injections you have to give them.. would use it again but only on calves as anything over 400kg gets 3-4 injection sites to get correct volume of product into them.. just too much imo