Is NCT back dated??

dorkacle

Just a quick question :P

Anyone know if its as simple as paying for a one off test on a car, no matter how long its been since the last NCT?

OR do they follow a similar system as say road tax, where you pay from the time the last cover ended? (Assuming the car has been on the road)

For example a car hasn't been NCT'd for two years, is it tested just the once like normal or is there a back payment also for the missed tests?

Thanks for any help!

Yakuza

The NCT on a new car is dated when the car was first registered in the country, so if you do it a month late, you'll only get a cert for 23 months. If you do it a month early, you'll get one for 25 months.

For imported cars, I think it's still based on the date the car was first registered in the country of its origin (and not when it was registered in Ireland) but I'm not 100% about this.

dorkacle

I see, ha so if its 2 years late do you get a cert for 0 months? :eek:

I'd imagine you just pay for 2 tests or something, as a kind of fine?

mackeire

i got a car nct'd in april and its now due in january as thats when it was meant to be tested.

corktina

Yakuza wrote: »

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For imported cars, I think it's still based on the date the car was first registered in the country of its origin (and not when it was registered in Ireland) but I'm not 100% about this.

not any more...from date first reg'd in Ireland now

dorkacle

mackeire wrote: »

i got a car nct'd in april and its now due in january as thats when it was meant to be tested.

So it was due last January and only managed to have it done in April?

I'm wondering what happens if it goes outside the 2 year cycle of being tested, what happens then?

dodzy

dorkacle wrote: »

I see, ha so if its 2 years late do you get a cert for 0 months? :eek:

I'd imagine you just pay for 2 tests or something, as a kind of fine?

Yep, think so. If you are 23mths overdue, you will get a cert valid for 1 mth. If 2yrs + overdue, you will have to test, assuming it passes, reapply for another test again, in theory having 2 tests ( not re-tests ) in as many weeks, potentially. A deterrent I suppose.

EDIT: Above is wrong. Apologies for the mis-information. See post #12 - from the NCT Customer Service

mackeire

dorkacle wrote: »

mackeire wrote: »

i got a car nct'd in april and its now due in january as thats when it was meant to be tested.

So it was due last January and only managed to have it done in April?

I'm wondering what happens if it goes outside the 2 year cycle of being tested, what happens then?

the nct was only 2 months out so when i got it tested. They only gave me 10 months because it was two months after it should have been done.

Yawns

dodzy wrote: »

Yep, think so. If you are 23mths overdue, you will get a cert valid for 1 mth. If 2yrs + overdue, you will have to test, assuming it passes, reapply for another test again, in theory having 2 tests ( not re-tests ) in as many weeks, potentially. A deterrent I suppose.

No. Correct if you are 23 months late bringing the car to a NCT test you will only get a cert for 1 month. If you are 25 months late bringing the car you will be issued with a new cert until he next due date. Any car over 10 years will now have to undergo an NCT every year instead of every 2 years.

So to clear it up with an example below. A car first registered in Ireland in 2004. First NCT is due in 2008, then 2010 and 2012. If the person had it tested in 2008 he would get his cert covering him until 2010. If he missed 2008 and did it in 2009 he would get the cert covering until next due which is 2010.

If he did it in 2011 he would just do it the once and get a cert covering until the next due date which would be 2012. No penalty except it is now an offence to be without a valid NCT disc and he can receive penalty points and a fine.

Yawns

mackeire wrote: »

the nct was only 2 months out so when i got it tested. They only gave me 10 months because it was two months after it should have been done.

Your car must be 10 years or older so must be tested once a year now. If your car was 14 months out of date you would only have gotten a 10 month cert covering up until the next due date. If your car was 10 months out of date you would get a cert covering the next date which is 2 months away.

Yakuza

mackeire wrote: »

the nct was only 2 months out so when i got it tested. They only gave me 10 months because it was two months after it should have been done.

I take it your car was over 10 years old? I'd forgotten that they changed it to a yearly rip-off test for "old" cars. I'm sure there are safer 10-year-old cars out there than some sub 4-year cars (varying wildly according to their owners' following of the servicing schedules) and to bluntly force "old" cars to be retested annually is BS in my opinion.

dodzy

Yawns wrote: »

No. Correct if you are 23 months late bringing the car to a NCT test you will only get a cert for 1 month. If you are 25 months late bringing the car you will be issued with a new cert until he next due date. Any car over 10 years will now have to undergo an NCT every year instead of every 2 years.

So to clear it up with an example below. A car first registered in Ireland in 2004. First NCT is due in 2008, then 2010 and 2012. If the person had it tested in 2008 he would get his cert covering him until 2010. If he missed 2008 and did it in 2009 he would get the cert covering until next due which is 2010.

If he did it in 2011 he would just do it the once and get a cert covering until the next due date which would be 2012. No penalty except it is now an offence to be without a valid NCT disc and he can receive penalty points and a fine.

This was bugging me so I had to ring them:

Agent:Hello, Dave speaking, can I have your care reg please ?

Me: just a query Dave. Let us say that Mr.X has a car which is over 10yrs old, and the NCT is out for in excess of 2 yrs, what will he get in relation to duration of a cert issued should the car pass ?

Agent: If he brings the car in any time over 3mths before the "due month", bearing in mind the NCT is out for over 2 yrs, he will receive a cert up to the "due month". To elaborate, if the NCT is due in June and the car passes in march, then a 4mth cert is issued.

However, if the car is tested within a 3mth window of the "due month", then a 1yr cert is issued at that point until the "due mth" of the following year.

This also applies to a 10+ yr car with the NCT expired over 1 yr. Basically, if your car is out of NCT for 1yr and 8 mths, then wait 4 weeks. You've pushed your luck this far. Another month wont hurt !

Yawns

Cool. Nice to know the exact official line on it. I had always been told the other way. I suppose it makes more sense when it's tested within 3 months of the due date that it will be dated until the following due date.

I imagine that is because you can book a car in early for it's test 3 months in advance of it being due so this has carried over to the over due tests as well.

whowantstwoknow

corktina wrote: »

not any more...from date first reg'd in Ireland now

Yakuza wrote: »

The NCT on a new car is dated when the car was first registered in the country, so if you do it a month late, you'll only get a cert for 23 months. If you do it a month early, you'll get one for 25 months.

For imported cars, I think it's still based on the date the car was first registered in the country of its origin (and not when it was registered in Ireland) but I'm not 100% about this.

Well I thought it was based on the date the car was first registered in the country of its origin, and have booked the test. But just read the above and rang NCT...They still state its "based on the date the car was first registered in the country of its origin"

Doesnt mean the person knew what they are talking about....

dodzy

Yawns wrote: »

I imagine that is because you can book a car in early for it's test 3 months in advance of it being due so this has carried over to the over due tests as well.

My thoughts too. That said, the 10yr old & over, 1yr NCT is another bitter pill that has been forced upon us. Another cash cow for the farm.

Yawns

If the rumours are anything to go by, the EU wants the NCT done annually for cars 6 years or older.

Yawns

whowantstwoknow wrote: »

Well I thought it was based on the date the car was first registered in the country of its origin, and have booked the test. But just read the above and rang NCT...They still state its "based on the date the car was first registered in the country of its origin"

Doesn't mean the person knew what they are talking about....

I thought it was from the first reg of the orgin country myself. Makes more sense given that you would need all the paperwork to VRT the car anyway. Then they would know the year it was made and have it tested accordingly.

Jimbob 83

dorkacle wrote: »

I see, ha so if its 2 years late do you get a cert for 0 months? :eek:

I'd imagine you just pay for 2 tests or something, as a kind of fine?

5 years ago when i got my Octavia it was 22 months out of test, i did test got a cert for 2 months then retested 2 months later and got 2 years.

Works out well tbh as car is gonna be ready to for a retest when t comes around. Did NCT on my Octavia today for the 4th time and had some annoying student doing a survey :rolleyes:

dorkacle

dodzy wrote: »

This was bugging me so I had to ring them:

Agent:Hello, Dave speaking, can I have your care reg please ?

Me: just a query Dave. Let us say that Mr.X has a car which is over 10yrs old, and the NCT is out for in excess of 2 yrs, what will he get in relation to duration of a cert issued should the car pass ?

Agent: If he brings the car in any time over 3mths before the "due month", bearing in mind the NCT is out for over 2 yrs, he will receive a cert up to the "due month". To elaborate, if the NCT is due in June and the car passes in march, then a 4mth cert is issued.

However, if the car is tested within a 3mth window of the "due month", then a 1yr cert is issued at that point until the "due mth" of the following year.

This also applies to a 10+ yr car with the NCT expired over 1 yr. Basically, if your car is out of NCT for 1yr and 8 mths, then wait 4 weeks. You've pushed your luck this far. Another month wont hurt !

Thats exactly what I wanted to know, cheers man!

Prob should have taken the time to ring them myself hehe :rolleyes:

I appreciate you taking the time to do so though!

Cheers!