pigeon ammo

patdahat

supposed to be going shooting pigeon's the weekend and just wondering what you find the best ammo for them?

Mezamo

I definately find a 32g 5 or 6 to be the best for shooting them. I was using 28g trap cartridges for a while last year, but spent alot of time chasing after wounded birds!! when they're hit with a 32 they go down without a kick and theres only a euro or two in the difference between 28's and 32's, I picked up some 32g FOB 6's there for €7 a box last week which is good going for 32g:D:D

beretta firearm

Mezamo wrote: »

I definately find a 32g 5 or 6 to be the best for shooting them. I was using 28g trap cartridges for a while last year, but spent alot of time chasing after wounded birds!! when they're hit with a 32 they go down without a kick and theres only a euro or two in the difference between 28's and 32's, I picked up some 32g FOB 6's there for €7 a box last week which is good going for 32g:D:D

what about 30 grams?

Mezamo

30g are good enough... no real difference in price so I just go with the extra 2 grammes of lead :D:D

TriggerPL

beretta firearm wrote: »

Mezamo wrote: »

I definately find a 32g 5 or 6 to be the best for shooting them. I was using 28g trap cartridges for a while last year, but spent alot of time chasing after wounded birds!! when they're hit with a 32 they go down without a kick and theres only a euro or two in the difference between 28's and 32's, I picked up some 32g FOB 6's there for €7 a box last week which is good going for 32g:D:D

what about 30 grams?

Eley 30g 6 pigeon , if ya can knock them with these , throw the gun at them . I shot with them last year and dusted everything I hit .

Double Barrel

Eley 30g 6's and I have a few slabs of 30g, 6.5's.
I shoot Gamebore clear pigeon 30g when available.
Wary birds at 50 yds. or thereabouts, 32 & 34g, 6's & sometimes 5's.

Sika98k

patdahat wrote: »

supposed to be going shooting pigeon's the weekend and just wondering what you find the best ammo for them?

GB 30grm 6,s if I,m flush or GB 71/2 28grm trap[they actually measure as English 7,s if the financial resources are lacking.

garv123

Where can ye get the eley 30g 6 and how much are they costing a box?

snipe02

winchester 32gr 6s 25 euro a box of a 100, id never use 7 1/2s again for pigeons

ianoo

surely there is more than a euro or two of a difference between 30g no.6's and 7.5 trap shells,.
how much are ye paying for the no.6's and where are ye getting them ???


ian...

garv123

snipe02 wrote: »

winchester 32gr 6s 25 euro a box id never use 7 1/2s again for pigeons

25 euro for 250 or 25?
Where are you getting them?

snipe02

garv123 wrote: »

25 euro for 250 or 25?
Where are you getting them?

sorry left that out 100 it is and getting them in carlow atlantic and in kilkenny from ger smith, ger was 60 euro for 250 but hes hit and miss

sikahuntejack

diana 28g or 30g thats what i will be shooting pigeons over rape this sunday will bring 250 hopefully will fire them all

patdahat

was quoted €75 to €80 for 250 qc 32gram No6.
and €50 for 250 trap 28gram No7 1/2.
will go the extra few quid i think for the heavier load.

Mezamo

patdahat wrote: »

was quoted €75 to €80 for 250 qc 32gram No6.
and €50 for 250 trap 28gram No7 1/2.
will go the extra few quid i think for the heavier load.

I still believe your better off paying the extra money for the heavier load... If you have the funds available that is:D:D

scuttlebutt

Anybody shoot Pigeons with 20g and if so what cartridges do they use

browning 12 bore

been shooting for years always used 6 30g then ran out one day got few boxs of trap 7 and half to try out never looked back now had to get extra full for my semi auto and give them a little more lead and they always come down i shot a little over 1000 last year easy on the shoulder as well lol lol

go faster

i use 32g 6 in the bottom barrel and 34g 5 on top for when the get a little further away

rmnrgn

Sorry lads but slightly off topic here, as you are shooting pidgeons over a crop do you need to apply for a Section 42 or can you just go at it?
Thanks

garv123

rmnrgn wrote: »

Sorry lads but slightly off topic here, as you are shooting pidgeons over a crop do you need to apply for a Section 42 or can you just go at it?
Thanks

You can shoot them under derogation over crops all year around if they are causing damage.. you dont need to apply for a section 42.

minktrapper

Anyone ever use a 20 gauge for pigeon.

thekevin4540

I use 28gm 7/12 and i drop them stone dead if you have a good enough shot you drop them with any thing i had one or two boxes of 9s last year and i was droping them stone dead if your smack on your birds you will drop them with any thing

shooter88

I always used trap cartridges but changed to 5's for pigeons and crows a few years ago and sorry I didn do it sooner whacked anything clean...best option is to get a few different boxs and see which you prefer as everyone is slightly different..I'm getting used to to a rifle at the moment iv been threw two types so far and going to get more to try today

snipe02

was out yesterday and was using a mixture of rc sipe 32gr 5 , saga 32 gr 7, eley high flyers 32gr 7, and eley olympics 28 gr 7 1\2 found the 32 gr 5s to be the most versatile and the 32 gr 7s especially the saga were savage the trap carts mostly done the job within 30 yards but were really inconsistant more often than i liked ya could here the pellets hop off of the birds only to see them fly away other times they flew a bit and then dropped now winged a few with the other carts but that was bad shooting so as a middle ground i think a 7 in the first barrel with half choke and a 5 or 6 in the second with half or three quater choke would suit my shooting best

sako75 hunter

Ive been shooting RC Sipe 32g 6's since last year and can honestly say ive never shot any better cartridges out of my shotgun. About 65-70 a slab, quality! All i can say is give them a try, you wont be sorry

dev110

I have changed away from the trap cartridges also. Same as Snipe I find they just bounce off the pigeons from time to time.

I am using Remington Sure Shot 34g 6's. Anything I have hit with them never budged after. Had a few 50-60 yard shots yesterday and they went down. If I was using 7 1/2's I wouldn't have even tried.

Constab2

sako75 hunter wrote: »

Ive been shooting RC Sipe 32g 6's since last year and can honestly say ive never shot any better cartridges out of my shotgun. About 65-70 a slab, quality! All i can say is give them a try, you wont be sorry

Plus 1 on the RC Sipe also try the RC2 34Gr No 6 fantastic cartridge for pigeon.Sportsden €80 a brick(250)

Sika98k

minktrapper wrote: »

Anyone ever use a 20 gauge for pigeon.

Yes,hope this answers your question.

pheasntstalker

i use sipe 32grm find them great for pidgeon:)

sikahuntejack

i shoot hundreds of pigeond every year with 32 gram diana catridges last week to save money i bought 1000 ,,,28 gram catridges of a **** name never again i might aswell be throwing salt at the pigeons never seen so many pigeons fly away after getting 2 barells off me gun:mad::mad::mad::mad:

garv123

The 28g are only any good if the pigeons/crows are coming in at about tree height. We often use them shooting crows and its basically a waiting game for them to drop lower. If they are any more than 25-30 yards away or high up tis fairly hopeless.

The 32g 6 fairly increases the knocking distance and would be a decent minimum if you had to put a serious dent in the numbers.

rsole1

scuttlebutt wrote: »

Anybody shoot Pigeons with 20g and if so what cartridges do they use

Have tried RC20 semi magnum 32g No5. Bit heavy going after a while.

Have bought a heap of Eley Alphamax AAA 28 gramme, would they be any good for foxes?

Mezamo

rsole1 wrote: »

Have tried RC20 semi magnum 32g No5. Bit heavy going after a while.

Have bought a heap of Eley Alphamax AAA 28 gramme, would they be any good for foxes?

Wouldnt think they'd be any good on foxs... a 12g 36 gramme BB doesnt always do the job either ( depending on range ). I found a 42g magnum BB to be the best for em!

rsole1

Mezamo wrote: »

Wouldnt think they'd be any good on foxs... a 12g 36 gramme BB doesnt always do the job either ( depending on range ). I found a 42g magnum BB to be the best for em!

But the AAA shot diameter is 5.16mm and there are 35 per 28gram
The BB shot diameter is 4.09mm and there are 70 per 28 gram

The AAA must be hard hitting - what would the best use be for AAA 28gram?

garv123

rsole1 wrote: »

But the AAA shot diameter is 5.16mm and there are 35 per 28gram
The BB shot diameter is 4.09mm and there are 70 per 28 gram

The AAA must be hard hitting - what would the best use be for AAA 28gram?

They may be smaller but there will be nearly double in the BB.

The AAA will work i'd imagine if they were at very close range, like every shotgun cart its all bout using the right range.

Mezamo

garv123 wrote: »

They may be smaller but there will be nearly double in the BB.

The AAA will work i'd imagine if they were at very close range, like every shotgun cart its all bout using the right range.

I agree Garv...its all about getting the right range.... I sometimes use 24g eley olympics on pigeons if im gonna have a couple for the pan. Let them in nearly on top of the decoys and there isnt a kick out of em:D

Birdnuts

What do people think about using clay pigeon cartridges in the field??. I bumped into this chap at the local clay club recently and he said he uses them at ranges out to 50 -60 yards. I'm not convinced personally, though the fact that they can be significantly cheaper to purchase is an obvious attraction.

ArseLtd

patdahat wrote: »

was quoted €75 to €80 for 250 qc 32gram No6.
and €50 for 250 trap 28gram No7 1/2.
will go the extra few quid i think for the heavier load.

Don't bother with 7 1/2 28 gram. They are for targets. The lead is harder so if your familiar with rifle shooting it's like using a solid bullet instead of a hollow point. Hunting shot is soft so it expands when it hits the target. Sure, 7 1/2 28 gram will kill them if they're close enough but how close? It'll kill a bear at 2 inches it doesn't mean it's suitable.

Get 32 gram no 5 or 6, consider no4 too. It's also important to try different cartridges to see which works best for you. Shotguns have different chamber lengths and diameters so they will favor different cartridges. There's a reason people have different opinions on the best brand of cartridge.

garv123

Birdnuts wrote: »

What do people think about using clay pigeon cartridges in the field??. I bumped into this chap at the local club and he said he uses them at ranges out to 50 -60 yards. I'm not convinced personally, though the fact that they can be significantly cheaper to purchase is an obvious attraction.

garv123 wrote: »

The 28g are only any good if the pigeons/crows are coming in at about tree height. We often use them shooting crows and its basically a waiting game for them to drop lower. If they are any more than 25-30 yards away or high up tis fairly hopeless.

He definitely has no idea of the range or is telling porkies.. He might knock butterflies at that range with them.

As I said above they aren't much good above tree height to get a clean kill.

we were shooting pigeons before only to bag a few for the pot and were using them to bag a few without much damage and a crow flew over and the lad I with shot him at about 35-40 yards and the crow flew off. He was saying he was sure he hit him well and about 400 yards away the crow flopped in mid air. I didnt believe him till he went off up the field and came back a few minutes later with the crow.

A tight choke might give them more stopping power at range but not much id say

Birdnuts

garv123 wrote: »

A tight choke might give them more stopping power at range but not much id say

That was going to be my next question!! - thanx for that:)

TriggerPL

Eley 32g 7 VIP there expensive but they will take down anything

Chesapeake

rsole1 wrote: »

But the AAA shot diameter is 5.16mm and there are 35 per 28gram
The BB shot diameter is 4.09mm and there are 70 per 28 gram

The AAA must be hard hitting - what would the best use be for AAA 28gram?

Tripple A patterns nice for goose or similar sized, also a splendid round for home protection - and also is great for Mr for fox if you use an extra full turkey choke!

Anything apart from ducks, 6,5,4 alphamax 36gr - 3/4 choke - beratta semi auto. Duck's get BB's end of.

TriggerPL

Chesapeake wrote: »

rsole1 wrote: »

But the AAA shot diameter is 5.16mm and there are 35 per 28gram
The BB shot diameter is 4.09mm and there are 70 per 28 gram

The AAA must be hard hitting - what would the best use be for AAA 28gram?

Tripple A patterns nice for goose or similar sized, also a splendid round for home protection - and also is great for Mr for fox if you use an extra full turkey choke!

Anything apart from ducks, 6,5,4 alphamax 36gr - 3/4 choke - beratta semi auto. Duck's get BB's end of.

Seriously bbs for ducks what ducks are you shooting at ? The mighty ducks ! It seems a bit extreme any 32g 5 cartridge is more that enough for duck or a 4 !