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hell and back

  • 18-07-2012 10:06pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,128 ✭✭✭


    http://www.hellandback.ie/Hell-and-Back-Location.html


    Thinking if giving this a shot, anyone done it before, Ive walked 10k I'm not a great runner but this looks like too much fun, I do kickboxing once a week so I might just be able yo scrape through.

    If you have done it can you tell me what the course is like and what fitness level you need.

    Cheers


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,635 ✭✭✭miller82


    I did it last year and loved it. The weather was brutal as well.
    Its very tough and getting decent trail runners is a big help (i only had normal running runners). its good craic doing it, but as 10kms go, yes its a beast
    up to your waist in a swamp and then a river. climbing the mountain was the toughest bit IMO
    Would strongly recommend it though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,128 ✭✭✭cynder


    I've signed up for it, :D should be good fun, all my friends are too chicken to do it :( so im going solo,

    As for the runners are the ones with spikes better or the ones like football boots ( plastic on the bottom) better?

    No idea how im supposed to train for something like that but will continue kickboxing once a week and im terrible at running, can walk for miles.


  • Subscribers Posts: 19,425 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    Spikes might be banned you would have to check. Normal runners will be too slippy, get xc ones at least.

    I did this in January. Great craic. The only tough bit for me was the trail up the mountain, cos I hadnt trained enough on that kind of gradient, the rest is very doable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,537 ✭✭✭The Davestator


    Did it in Jan too in normal runners and didn't cause me any problems. Obviously, trail runners would be better but if you're only getting started you don't need them to complete it. (you just need to be slower and more careful)!


  • Subscribers Posts: 19,425 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    I saw guys in road shoes going aot on the descents which is why mentioned. Possible Yes. Fun no. :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,128 ✭✭✭cynder


    I'll pop into elverys and see what they have, I'll try and get a few hill sprints in aswell. The more I think about it the more I'm looking forward to it. Checked out the Times and mist people finished before the 2 hour mark, so I have at least some hope in completing it :)



    Getting wet and muddy can't wait, do the shoes rub once you go through water? Might want to cover my feet with plasters and wear 1001 mile socks..


  • Subscribers Posts: 19,425 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    Your feet will be fine as long as youre used to your shoes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 379 ✭✭jim_bob


    just signed up too

    found a voucher for 10% off too :)


    voucher:
    38c13c


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭Paul16


    Is there much waiting at any of the obstacles? Looks fairly spread out in the video's on the website except for climbing through the tires.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 169 ✭✭bigslice


    I went in second wave and was towards the front of that going through the field at the start which spreads it out, i had very little waiting as I went round but was moving up places the whole time.

    One of our lads would have been slower and in same wave, he said he had to wait at times and it was only getting worse. So try and book early and get in 1st wave or second at worse.

    Its a great event and totally different from other events.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭belcarra


    Agree, a great event.
    All about pacing and if you do it right you will have great fun, pace it wrong and it'll be a trudge to get to the finish but then it is only 10km so it'll be over soon enough!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,358 ✭✭✭jimbis


    I wasnt fit at all when i done it in january. Started running about a month before hand and i wasnt well the day of it either and still managed to finish in 1hr40min. Even if you crawl it you'll still have a great time!

    injured my ankle in the mean time and im totally out of fitness again but sure why not, im doing it again! Bring on the rain! :D
    Oh i done it in normal runners aswell and didnt fall once, but it did take alot of work to stay vertical.;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,128 ✭✭✭cynder


    Was looking at the website they have made some alterations, something about electric shocks and barbed wire.

    Only a couple of weeks to go....


  • Site Banned Posts: 957 ✭✭✭leeomurchu


    cynder wrote: »
    I've signed up for it, :D should be good fun, all my friends are too chicken to do it :( so im going solo,

    As for the runners are the ones with spikes better or the ones like football boots ( plastic on the bottom) better?

    No idea how im supposed to train for something like that but will continue kickboxing once a week and im terrible at running, can walk for miles.

    I wouldn't wear spikes or the person giving you a bunt over the wall might be a bit pissed off at you. If it's anything like it was in January you'll be covered in mud and loving it although it was feckin freezing I'll never forget the first time I hit the water Brrr...

    Before I did it I emailed them t ask what the hills were like I'm not a big fan of them. There answer was there's only one hill I didn't reealise at the time that you're either goin up or down said hill it's a steep run to the top so plenty of hill training would be a good idea.

    I'll sit this one out and go for it in January don't think it'll be the same without the freezing cold. You can;t feel the gorse stripping your skin when you can't feel your legs :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭Moflojo


    I did this in January too, great craic! Nothing like a bout of hypothermia to spice up your weekend...

    I've signed up for the next one too; they're giving away free race entries this week if anyone here is interested:

    https://twitter.com/HellandBackRun/status/248361225417789441


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭DogSlySmile


    Charging people an extra €2 to be in the 'elite' wave is a bit of a joke!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,128 ✭✭✭cynder


    6am start tomorrow, collect race pack at 10 and I'm in the second wave at 12...


    Remind me again why I signed up...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,128 ✭✭✭cynder


    6am start tomorrow, collect race pack at 10 and I'm in the second wave at 12...


    Remind me again why I signed up...


  • Site Banned Posts: 957 ✭✭✭leeomurchu


    cynder wrote: »
    6am start tomorrow, collect race pack at 10 and I'm in the second wave at 12...


    Remind me again why I signed up...

    You'll have great craic even more if it starts raining but I reckon they douse the course in water before hand anyway.

    Don't forget to keep your arse down under the barb wire :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,128 ✭✭✭cynder


    Beautiful day in bray, 1 hour to 30 min countdown...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 771 ✭✭✭seanmacc


    Still waiting for results.

    There was a bit of a mix up entering the swamp with the first wave. There was no marshals at a turn and a load of runners went the wrong way.

    Was a great race all the same. The first 5k are disproportional more difficult than the last 5k. There was a good few runners I saw with road running shoes with duct-tape on the vents. I was wondering why they would do this? If you're trying to stop the water getting in you're also stopping it get out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 136 ✭✭MRJ


    Just back from Hell and Back, was very good thoroughly enjoyed it. i had the duct tape around the ankles to make sure i didn't lose a runner in the water or swamp:). That climb up the hill was tough!!!


  • Site Banned Posts: 957 ✭✭✭leeomurchu


    Looks like they need to turn up the voltage for January musn't have been much of a shock off those wires :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 771 ✭✭✭seanmacc


    leeomurchu wrote: »
    Looks like they need to turn up the voltage for January musn't have been much of a shock off those wires :D

    By the time you've reached the electric shock thingy you are probably immune to the pain. I only felt a slight tingle on my arm. judging from the amount of bruises I have all over me this morning a minor shock is nothing.


  • Site Banned Posts: 957 ✭✭✭leeomurchu


    seanmacc wrote: »
    By the time you've reached the electric shock thingy you are probably immune to the pain. I only felt a slight tingle on my arm. judging from the amount of bruises I have all over me this morning a minor shock is nothing.

    haha you should try it in January after your first dip through the pond you can feel nothing below the waist. although as the legs warmed up you could feel where the gorse had been stripping away the skin :D

    Looked like a good day was had by all lookin forward to January now :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 771 ✭✭✭seanmacc


    leeomurchu wrote: »
    haha you should try it in January after your first dip through the pond you can feel nothing below the waist. although as the legs warmed up you could feel where the gorse had been stripping away the skin :D

    Looked like a good day was had by all lookin forward to January now :eek:

    I'd say its a different race in the winter alright. I wonder would they still do it if there was heavy snow up there. That would be a challenge, but I'd say the H&S freaks would put a stop to it.

    The biggest issue I had with the pond was not the wet feet or the drain on the muscles but the mingon smell off it which stuck with me the entire race


  • Site Banned Posts: 957 ✭✭✭leeomurchu


    seanmacc wrote: »
    I'd say its a different race in the winter alright. I wonder would they still do it if there was heavy snow up there. That would be a challenge, but I'd say the H&S freaks would put a stop to it.

    The biggest issue I had with the pond was not the wet feet or the drain on the muscles but the mingon smell off it which stuck with me the entire race

    haha the smells nasty alright boil wash all your kit. If there was a heavy snow it'd solve the mud problem that's for sure and sure you could slide over the pond. Might make it easier all round with the exception of hypothermia and frost bite and all those trivial things :D

    Was the trail muddy headin up towards the turn to go up the side of little sugarloaf. That was a killer back in January the mud must've been 3-4 inches deep and like glue. I'll have to invest in a pair of trail runners this time around I was trying to find gorse to run on last time in an effort to stay up right.

    What was the swamp like probably the warmest place to be in January although it was deep in spots and most people skirted around it quite a few folks were missing obstacles in that race.

    Also what were the queues like they were pretty bad last time although I wasn't at the pointy end of things so it was all a bit of craic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 771 ✭✭✭seanmacc


    leeomurchu wrote: »
    haha the smells nasty alright boil wash all your kit. If there was a heavy snow it'd solve the mud problem that's for sure and sure you could slide over the pond. Might make it easier all round with the exception of hypothermia and frost bite and all those trivial things :D

    Was the trail muddy headin up towards the turn to go up the side of little sugarloaf. That was a killer back in January the mud must've been 3-4 inches deep and like glue. I'll have to invest in a pair of trail runners this time around I was trying to find gorse to run on last time in an effort to stay up right.

    What was the swamp like probably the warmest place to be in January although it was deep in spots and most people skirted around it quite a few folks were missing obstacles in that race.

    Also what were the queues like they were pretty bad last time although I wasn't at the pointy end of things so it was all a bit of craic.

    The trail wasn't too bad. There was some large accumulations of muck here and there but nothing you couldn't jump over or step around. I was in the first wave though fairly high up the field at that point, after a few hundred more feet started treading on it I'd say it got much worse. I was running in my old Brooks road shoes and I thought I'd be squelching all the way to the finish line but I was impressed about how quickly the water evacuated from them.

    As somebody who is 6ft 6 the swamp was over my waist in parts and smelled as bad as the pond. I found that those obstacles towards the end of the race that slow you down give your legs and lungs time to recover for the big push to the line.

    The only bottlenecks I found was at the wall where a lot of people needed assistance up and in the swamp but there again I was in wave 1.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 136 ✭✭MRJ


    I went in the second wave and found the queues were not to bad. There was a bit of waiting at the first set of bales but after them the crowd started to spread out. i found it very well organised and well laid out. I thought the 'up and down' sections very tough. Might invest in a pair of trail runners next time though for the winter run.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭Munurty




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,128 ✭✭✭cynder


    I'm killed from it, it was great fun, I have a 3 inch cut on my elbow and bruises all up my legs, I found the wall hard to get over, I slipped after Satan's pit off one of the wooden beams and got soaked. I also took a mouthful of the pond when I slipped in on my ass by that time over 900 people had entered and it was really slippy.


    Great fun though, don't have the guts to do it in winter the river would be a killer, it was so cold, I hope they get more climbing obstacles coming out of the swamp and climbing up the trellis was fun...

    Defo do it next year in October...

    I did it in just over the 2 hour mark, happy with that.... Next year hope to do better.


  • Site Banned Posts: 957 ✭✭✭leeomurchu


    cynder wrote: »
    I'm killed from it, it was great fun, I have a 3 inch cut on my elbow and bruises all up my legs, I found the wall hard to get over, I slipped after Satan's pit off one of the wooden beams and got soaked. I also took a mouthful of the pond when I slipped in on my ass by that time over 900 people had entered and it was really slippy.


    Great fun though, don't have the guts to do it in winter the river would be a killer, it was so cold, I hope they get more climbing obstacles coming out of the swamp and climbing up the trellis was fun...

    Defo do it next year in October...

    I did it in just over the 2 hour mark, happy with that.... Next year hope to do better.

    Well Done it's actually not to bad in the winter the river isn't to cold as the waters flowing but the pond is numbing. :eek:

    The cold just gives you reason to run faster :D

    A nice cuppa tea at the end would be great. A woman in front of me last January decided it'd be a great idea to nose dive off the top of 3 bales of hay it didn't end well for her. I'm surprised there aren't more injuries but it's definitely a great event and well run.

    Roll on January :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 775 ✭✭✭simon360


    Hi all, have to do this for fundraising for my ventures' troop this year. As the smallest of the group and only 16 I'm not looking forward to it.. any tips? also will I survive :P Fair play to all who did it looks a challenge!


  • Site Banned Posts: 957 ✭✭✭leeomurchu


    simon360 wrote: »
    Hi all, have to do this for fundraising for my ventures' troop this year. As the smallest of the group and only 16 I'm not looking forward to it.. any tips? also will I survive :P Fair play to all who did it looks a challenge!

    Don't wear a track suit you'll only be cold waiting to start you'll be grand after that. Wear something that won't absorb water under armour or skins are usually good but pricey.

    I'm not sure what wave you're in but when you get to the pond just run straight through it don't stop and make sure you've your shoes tied on tight very tight..

    The first 5-6k is up hill so hopefully you've trained on a few hills.

    The most important tip is that it's a great event and you'll be able to tell all your mates about it, enjoy it :) unless you're at the pointy end of things then give it socks :D

    Good Luck


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,762 ✭✭✭✭ecoli


    simon360 wrote: »
    Hi all, have to do this for fundraising for my ventures' troop this year. As the smallest of the group and only 16 I'm not looking forward to it.. any tips? also will I survive :P Fair play to all who did it looks a challenge!

    Mod: Adventure racing now has a new home on boards you can find more info here

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056503683&page=5


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