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Sky Eye and Saorview Ready TV

  • 18-07-2012 7:54pm
    #1
    Casey78
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 873 ✭✭✭


    HI.
    I'm hoping someone can help me.
    I have just put a Saorview ready TV in the spare room,I was also trying to get Sky signal from my sky digibox in the sitting room working on the TV.

    What I done was bring a cable from the Sky box and a cable from the Saorview aerial into the attic and and connected them to a Powerpass 2 way TV splitter and then from the powerpass I brought a cable to the a Sky eye and from that into the TV.

    My problem is I can only get one signal working at once,If it is all connected as above I can only get the Saorview channels,when I disconnect the saorview cable going into the powerpass I can get the Sky channels and the use of the sky eye working perfectly,but then when I connect the Saorview cable back into the powerpass the signal from the sky goes again.

    Sorry I know I'm rambling but I hope ye can get the jist of what I'm trying to day.I've been at this all day and it is wreaking my head.
    I have it just left now with the Saorview channels which are working great.

    I hope someone would be kind enough to offer me advice.
    Thanks


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  • #2
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,848 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    The Sky receiver RF2 frequency/UHF channel could be conflicting/sharing the same frequency/UHF channel as your local Saorview transmitter.

    Go into the Sky box menu and change the RF output channel to a number in the 60s e.g. 69.

    http://www.ukfree.tv/helpme.php?faqid=1107051117


  • #3
    Peter Rhea
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭Peter Rhea


    Also OP, you do realise the Sky box outputs on an analogue channel?

    Presumably the tv isn't just defaulting to analogue when you remove the Saorview feed?


  • #4
    Casey78
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 873 ✭✭✭Casey78


    The Cush wrote: »
    The Sky receiver RF2 frequency/UHF channel could be conflicting/sharing the same frequency/UHF channel as your local Saorview transmitter.

    Go into the Sky box menu and change the RF output channel to a number in the 60s e.g. 69.

    http://www.ukfree.tv/helpme.php?faqid=1107051117

    Thanks for the reply.
    I also have another sky eye connected in the kitchen.
    If I change the frequency will it affect that too?


  • #5
    Casey78
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 873 ✭✭✭Casey78


    Peter Rhea wrote: »
    Also OP, you do realise the Sky box outputs on an analogue channel?

    Presumably the tv isn't just defaulting to analogue when you remove the Saorview feed?

    No I didn't realise that!
    I don't have much knowledge when it comes to this stuff.
    How do I check that?


  • #6
    Peter Rhea
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭Peter Rhea


    Just reattach the Sky RF2 feed to your combiner/splitter & do a scan for analogue channels on the tv.


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  • #7
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,848 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Casey78 wrote: »
    Thanks for the reply.
    I also have another sky eye connected in the kitchen.
    If I change the frequency will it affect that too?

    Yes. just do a retune on the kitchen TV if you change the RF2 output frequency/uhf channel.


  • #8
    Peter Rhea
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭Peter Rhea


    Casey78 wrote: »
    What I done was bring a cable from the Sky box and a cable from the Saorview aerial into the attic

    Just to get all the details clear, is this aerial only feeding a single room? If not, how is the signal split to other rooms? Does the room where the Sky box is located have a Saorview feed?


  • #9
    Casey78
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 873 ✭✭✭Casey78


    Peter Rhea wrote: »
    Just to get all the details clear, is this aerial only feeding a single room? If not, how is the signal split to other rooms? Does the room where the Sky box is located have a Saorview feed?

    The Saorview aerial is feeding two TV's. There is a splitter on the aerial with two cables coming from it.
    One is connected to the Kitchen but as this isn't a saorview ready tv i have connected to a saorview digibox and hdmi to the Tv.I also have the sky eye on this TV. Both sky and saorview can be got on this telly no problem.

    The other Saorview cable is at the back of the TV in the sitting room.
    Here I have the Sky BOX. I came from the RF2 in the Sky box into a 2 port distribution sky amp. From there I have out of Port 1 one cable going to the sky eye in the kitchen and from Port 2 into a powerpass. The other side of the powerpass I have the saorview aerial cable connected. Then I have one cable from the outgoing side of the powerpass going to the Saorview TV in the spare room which is next to the sitting room so the cable is just going thru the wall.
    I can only get either the Saorview Channels or the Sky channels via the sky eye working at one time,I can't get both to work together.


  • #10
    Peter Rhea
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭Peter Rhea


    No need for the "powerpass" as you call it. Connect the Saorview aerial cable to the Sky box RF-in: now RF2 will have the Saorview signal as well as the modulated Sky output. So all you need are the cables coming from the distribution amp running to the other 2 rooms.


  • #11
    Casey78
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 873 ✭✭✭Casey78


    Peter Rhea wrote: »
    No need for the "powerpass" as you call it. Connect the Saorview aerial cable to the Sky box RF-in: now RF2 will have the Saorview signal as well as the modulated Sky output. So all you need are the cables coming from the distribution amp running to the other 2 rooms.

    I only call it a Powerpass because I read about it on here! Maybe that isn't the proper term for it.

    Thanks for your help Peter I will try that tonight when I get home.


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  • #12
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,848 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Casey78 wrote: »
    I only call it a Powerpass because I read about it on here! Maybe that isn't the proper term for it.

    Thanks for your help Peter I will try that tonight when I get home.

    Based on the info you supplied above no need to change the RF2 output channel, the Saorview and analogue terrestrial channels can be piggy-backed on the Sky RF2 output to the various TV points provided you have an aerial connected to the "aerial in" on the Sky box.


  • #13
    Peter Rhea
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭Peter Rhea


    Casey78 wrote: »
    . . . to the Saorview TV in the spare room which is next to the sitting room so the cable is just going thru the wall.

    Why did you mention the attic in your OP? It seemed like that's where you were combining the signals from the Sky box & the aerial & so nobody thought to mention the more conventional way of doing it before now.


  • #14
    Casey78
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 873 ✭✭✭Casey78


    The Cush wrote: »
    Based on the info you supplied above no need to change the RF2 output channel, the Saorview and analogue terrestrial channels can be piggy-backed on the Sky RF2 output to the various TV points provided you have an aerial connected to the "aerial in" on the Sky box.

    Thanks Cush.

    Just to be sure by 'Analog' you mean the sky channels which I will control with a Sky eye?

    Sorry for the silly questions I just don't know very much about this.


  • #15
    Casey78
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 873 ✭✭✭Casey78


    The reason I wired it that way was because I was following this drawing which someone has posted on here.
    https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/319676/161451.jpg

    I can see the error of my ways now.
    Thanks for the help lads.


  • #16
    zg3409
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,029 ✭✭✭zg3409


    Casey78 wrote: »
    The reason I wired it that way was because I was following this drawing which someone has posted on here.
    https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/319676/161451.jpg

    That drawing is wrong. The saorview aerial should go straight to the Sky box to the connection labelled "aerial in"


  • #17
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,848 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Casey78 wrote: »
    Just to be sure by 'Analog' you mean the sky channels which I will control with a Sky eye?

    Sorry for the silly questions I just don't know very much about this.

    They're not silly questions, that what the forum is here for. The more accurate info you post about your setup the easier it will be for posters to troubleshoot the system and hopefully resolve any problems.

    Regarding analogue, in that post I was referring to the old terrestrial/aerial channels which Saorview now replaces, they're still around until Oct 24th if you have any non-Saorview TVs in the house. The Sky channels output from RF2 are also analogue as was said above. On the Saorview TV in the bedroom you'll have to do an analogue/digital tune/scan to store both the Saorview and Sky-eye channels, some TVs will scan for both automatically.


  • #18
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,848 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    zg3409 wrote: »
    That drawing is wrong. The saorview aerial should go straight to the Sky box to the connection labelled "aerial in"

    I wouldn't say the drawing is wrong, it works for someone who doesn't require Saorview in the main room, just not the best option for Casey78's setup.


  • #19
    The Cush
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    Casey78 wrote: »
    The other Saorview cable is at the back of the TV in the sitting room.

    Forgot to mention earlier, I assume your main TV is used for Saorview. To restore the Saorview signal to the main TV after connecting the aerial feed to the Sky receiver - make or buy a length of co-ax and connect the TV to the RF1output on the Sky box, the Saorview signal loops-through RF1 and 2.


  • #20
    Peter Rhea
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭Peter Rhea


    Casey78 wrote: »
    The reason I wired it that way was because I was following this drawing which someone has posted on here.
    https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/319676/161451.jpg

    Can you link to the post the attachment came from?


  • #21
    Casey78
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 873 ✭✭✭Casey78


    Hi....me again!

    Another silly question but can you recieve a HD picture on a HD Ready and Saorview Ready TV just from a Saorview aerial?
    It's my understanding with a HD Ready Tv you need a HD source to get the HD picture ie a digibox. Is the signal from the Saorview aerial enough to get a HD station in a Saorview ready TV?


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  • #22
    Peter Rhea
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭Peter Rhea


    The only current HD Saorview channel is RTE2 & not everything it carries is genuine HD. More of the channels are expected to move to HD eventually.


  • #23
    Casey78
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 873 ✭✭✭Casey78


    Peter Rhea wrote: »
    The only current HD Saorview channel is RTE2 & not everything it carries is genuine HD. More of the channels are expected to move to HD eventually.

    Hi Peter
    Yeah I know RTE 2 is the only HD channel on Saorview but what I wanted to know was can you get HD picture just with a HD Ready and Saorview Ready TV?
    I know would would get it with a Saorview box via HDMI to the HD Ready TV but will you get it just from the aerial on a Saorview/HD ready Tv or would the TV need to be Full HD to get it in HD?


  • #24
    Peter Rhea
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭Peter Rhea


    HD ready & full HD only refers to the native resolution of the tv display. A 'HD ready' lcd would usually be 1366 x 768 pixels, while 'full HD' is 1920 x 1080.

    A 'HD ready' tv will downscale any broadcast 1080i material to suit its own display capability.


  • #25
    bbability
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,504 ✭✭✭bbability


    Sorry to pull out an old thread but I'm so grateful I'm come across this. I've an aerial on my roof unplugged for nearly 10 years. So before I run it to my Sky box I have one question, do I need a booster for the aerial or will it work ok though the sky box? Currently feeding other rooms with feed from RF2


  • #26
    Thurston?
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,278 ✭✭✭Thurston?


    bbability wrote: »
    ... I've an aerial on my roof unplugged for nearly 10 years. So before I run it to my Sky box I have one question, do I need a booster for the aerial or will it work ok though the sky box? Currently feeding other rooms with feed from RF2

    That will depend on what the signal from the aerial is like, by the time it gets to the TVs in question.

    It may not even be the right kind of aerial, be pointed the right direction, or the aerial, cable(s) etc. may no longer be serviceable.


  • #27
    bbability
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,504 ✭✭✭bbability


    It's pointing in the right direction and working. It's in good knick. Just wondering since I have to boost the signal for the magic eye to work in all rooms will it be the same for the aerial


  • #28
    Thurston?
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,278 ✭✭✭Thurston?


    bbability wrote: »
    It's in good knick. Just wondering since I have to boost the signal for the magic eye to work in all rooms will it be the same for the aerial

    Obviously, everything from RF2 will be boosted in the distribution amplifier, Saorview & all. Presumably also gets a bit of a boost between aerial-in & RF2.

    Assuming the Saorview signal is at a reasonable level (not too weak or strong) when it enters the Sky box, it should be fine.


  • #29
    bbability
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,504 ✭✭✭bbability


    Thanks... Will let you know how I get on during the week.


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