t&c for wifi hotspot set up on upc broadband

m4rkiz

i recently decided to set up some free for all wifi hotspot on my upc connection, i already have it up and running, but there is few more things before i decide to disable encryption and allow people in

i went through upc t&c http://www.upc.ie/termsandconditions/ and during this really long and painful experience i didn't found anything that is prohibiting me from running free hotspot, but i think i should have some nice and simple worded t&c myself

something that could be displayed to anyone that want to gain access so they would be informed of nature of this service (and i probably need to mention that i would like to store their mac addresses along with internal ip, date and time for a while just in case that someone do something stupid)

that needs to be just couple of sentences (we all know how thoroughly we read all those t&c and user agreements ) preferably worded in a way that anyone will get it at the first try

any other thoughts on this subject?

Free Wifi Internet access conditions:

You are solely responsible for any potentially illegal activities of yours.

MAC address of any of Your devices might be stored in my router logs for an extended period of time.

This banner will reappear every hour.

This service can be turned off any time, if You don't like it don't use it.

yoyo

If you want to provide customers with free wifi get a decent hardware firewall and change your UPC package to a business one, don't use a residential one.

Nick

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Yoyo is right here, an amateur setup will just turn into a honey-pot or get you disconnected.

Also remember that line has a 500GB combine limit, somebody sits on it torrenting at full throtle for a week and you have a nice big excess charge on your hands.

PogMoThoin

Do UPC have a business package? I'm nearly certain they don't

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http://business.upc.ie/

yoyo

PogMoThoin wrote: »

Do UPC have a business package? I'm nearly certain they don't

They do here, not sure if they offer the same as the residential packages but I wouldn't advise using a residential package for open wifi.

Nick

CreepingDeath

m4rkiz wrote: »

i already have it up and running, but there is few more things before i decide to disable encryption and allow people in

I wouldn't disable encryption.
There's a difference between running a completely open WIFI spot, and giving out the password freely.

As far as I know, WPA2 encryption will separate clients from each other.
So it offers your wifi users "some" protection from each other.
If you have an open wifi spot with no encryption, then each user can see the others computers and potentially try hacking them.

I'm assuming you've got some cafe or the like, where you want to give free wifi.

Instead, I'd recommend leaving WPA2 encryption on and posting the password on a notice board, or simply use your business name as the password, eg. "FredsCafe".

Also, depending on what router you have, you may have advanced options like throttling the bandwidth, banning certain websites by "naughty" keywords and set a schedule for only leaving your WIFI on during opening hours.

This question might better be suited to the "security" forum.

Legally, I'm not sure if you are safe by just saying that users are responsible for all illegal activity.

m4rkiz

CreepingDeath wrote: »

I wouldn't disable encryption.
As far as I know, WPA2 encryption will separate clients from each other.

So it offers your wifi users "some" protection from each other.
If you have an open wifi spot with no encryption, then each user can see the others computers and potentially try hacking them.

encryption has nothing to do with it, it is access point feature called AP isolation that can allow or disable traffic between connected peers

anyway, i have it configured, firewalled, it is going via open dns 'no filth' service, it is separated from my main network, in one word i have technical side covered

i was only curious about 'legal' side of things, as it is my own private network, not any kind of business