Fallout 3 vs fallout new vegas

Tar.Aldarion

I've always wanted to play these and today I won New Vegas and all the DLC.

Is it worth playing 3 first and getting that or should I just play new Vegas? Which was better?

mewso

You'll get a lot of personal opinions on this one. For me I preferred Fallout 3 but New Vegas is fantastic too. Both are serious time sinks if you like them. Both have great worlds to explore. Both suffer from the usual Bethesda rpg problem in that it's incredibly addictive building up your character and then suddenly (to be fair many hours later) it loosens it's grip on you because it's all too easy.

It doesn't really matter which one you play first really as apart from references to the original games you won't be seeing any reference in New Vegas to Fallout 3 iirc. Play away I reckon and try Fallout 3 if you enjoy your time in New Vegas.

*edit I suppose with New Vegas you don't get the introduction to whole idea of vaults etc. whereas in Fallout 3 you start as a vault dweller growing up and then moving out into the wasteland.

ixoy

There's no real necessity to play Fallout 3 first. I clocked up about 100 hrs in the Fallout 3:GotYE so it'll be an investment (well if you're going to do everything it will be).

New Vegas has a generally improved UI and it tweaks a few other things like reducing the number of perks you can get. It's probably the stronger of the two.

Agricola

Both are equally great imo, just a matter of taste. I preferred FO3 as it had a darker tone and felt more oppressive, more in keeping with the world you were exploring. New Vegas is a little lighter, more tongue in cheek.
You certainly wont be missing out on much if you go straight for NV though. Its more or less the same structure as 3.

Tar.Aldarion

Thanks great replies, will just play this first. I LOVE post apocalyptic anything. This is gunna be good.

Manach

I preferred by far the New Vegas version, in spite of a lower amount of Steel Brother type present. Perhaps it is just my taste in mutant show-girls.

mewso

Just bear in mind that Fallout 3 GOTY is only 4.99 at the mo. Nasty little tempter

Sephiroth_dude

Fallout 3 FTW

Tar.Aldarion

mewso wrote: »

Just bear in mind that Fallout 3 GOTY is only 4.99 at the mo. Nasty little tempter

I really want it, damn you steam...have about 20 games to play...
Not the worst problem in the world.

Nody

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

I really want it, damn you steam...have about 20 games to play...
Not the worst problem in the world.

Only 20? There's plenty of room there then for more :P

New vegas is way better!
Just dont expect much when you get to the strip.its a bit of a let down

Duggy747

I preferred NV myself, just couldn't warm to Fallout 3 at all. Found it too grey and drab to play.

Though at €4.99 I might give it another go.

Tar.Aldarion

Nody wrote: »

Only 20? There's plenty of room there then for more :P

I feel bad when I haven't even launched the likes of deus ex HR etc. and I cant get fallout 3 yet so this is amazing.


Are all the DLC missions long? If anybody has played through them.

norrie rugger

Fallout 3 is a tigher game in many respects, especially in character back story and motivation.
NV is a great game but I found it a lot harder to relate to the character than in FO3.


Side note, if anyone has gotten the Nexus Mod Downloader and mods to work can you drop me a PM? I would love to play FO3 with the high res artwork and 3D but can not get the downloads to work

Tar.Aldarion

that reminds me, are there any essential mods for fallout NV before I start?

calex71

You get to play the games the best way , with all the DLC ready to go up front.

The DLC isn't worth much after you have finished the games as you have nothing to do with all the cool loot you amass

FWIW Fallout 3 is the better game imo, more apocalyptic setting overall better radio and music, better story better dlc. It's a 10/10 now that said Fallout NV is a 9.5/10

Nothing beats picking your jaw up off the floor when you exit the vault for the 1st time in Fallout 3, It's one of those truly special gaming moments. Hope you have a spare 300 hours if you go with both

Hercule

Both games are fantastic - there used to be a mod which linked the two wastelands together (it got taken down by the publisher for some reason, but is still available in certain areas of the internets) - would have solved the problem altogether :pac:

Tar.Aldarion

That would be pretty cool! Some day I will own both and try that out.

Cravez

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

that reminds me, are there any essential mods for fallout NV before I start?

http://newvegas.nexusmods.com/

Haven't played New Vegas in ages so can't recommend any newer mods. Id recommend checking the top 100 files of all time. Overhaul mods are generally good as they balance the game better and get rid of any impurities and graphics mods are always good as well.

mewso

One other thing about New Vegas and the dlc. You might as well play the dlc before finishing the game outright because it actually ends, something I discovered on finishing which was a bit annoying. I was keeping the dlc until I had completed the main game and now I still haven't gone back to play out the dlc because you just feel like you're finished.

Tar.Aldarion

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

that reminds me, are there any essential mods for fallout NV before I start?

nude mod ;P

Kwack

New Vegas was one of few games I have finished more than once. Bit glitchy (even after patches) but my favourite game of all time. Loved Fallout 3 too though...

Nailz

I loved both of them, but contrary to popular opinion I actually enjoyed New Vegas more than I enjoyed 3, despite the fact that 3 is also class. I loved the radio stations in New Vegas more too, it was like the post-apocalyptic era of the Mojave desert was stuck in the 50's.

noodler

Preferred New Vegas too.

Far more diverse gamein terms of factions, lcoations etc.

3 was amazing as well though.

ShadowHearth

I liked f3 way more then NV, but both of them can't even put a scratch on F2.

Anyway, F3 felt more like fallout universe. The problems, atmosphere, surroundings, hidden stuff etc. NV felt more like a third world country then post apocalyptic world.
The strength of f3 was that they focused on one story and ending, where NV tried the whole 3 endings which were worse then average. If you really want to enjoy NV, then you need stay away from main quest.

I bought f3 with all dlcs now ( even ILife I own some dlcs and f3 already lol ), I will be planing to go and finish it again.
I bought all dlcs on sale for NV too. I heard old world blues is amazing dlc. I want to finish game with lonesome road too as the ending of NV was total balls.

Washington Irving

Personally preferred Fallout 3, never really got into New Vegas to the same extent. Prettier terrain and some new features weren't enough to win me over

Tar.Aldarion

I've started on F3 goty and gf has started NV, both have some nice mods installed too. Thanks guys!

Gonna go through them both

Sephiroth_dude

wish I was buying both for the first time again

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

havent modded NV yet but I remember some of the mods for fo3 made it look lovely

the darker nights and wasteland lighting in particular.. once it got dark, you really needed those lampposts and extra light sources around to make your way.. was more immersive and pretty as hell

Tar.Aldarion

love that kinda stuff.

Fenian Army

I couldnt get into fallout new vegas, really tried, always gave up within an hour, seemed very similar

Dave_The_Sheep

Project Nevada is a great mod. Adds a lot. FWE also good.

I found NV to be a lot more involving than FO3. It wasn't quite as atmospheric, but the lack of nuclear damage allowed them to imbue the Mojave with a lot more personality than the Wasteland. Though the Wasteland was a bit more atmospheric and post-apocalyptic.

ShadowHearth

i heard there are some nice mods for new vegas which enchant graphics? npc models? are they hard to install?
i loved gta4 mods, but installing them is the biggest anal job ever!

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

modding skyrim was a lot easier than what I remember modding fo3 to be like

and im pretty sure you use the same Nexus mod manager and Boss for all 3 games so it shouldn't be too much trouble

ShadowHearth

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

modding skyrim was a lot easier than what I remember modding fo3 to be like

and im pretty sure you use the same Nexus mod manager and Boss for all 3 games so it shouldn't be too much trouble

any website or forum which is dedicated for moding f3 and NV?

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

google for new vegas nexus or fallout new vegas nexus

Dave_The_Sheep

And get the Nexus Mod Manager. It makes installing most mods a breeze.

norrie rugger

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

And get the Nexus Mod Manager. It makings installing most mods a breeze.

You have any trouble downloading the mod packs?

Sephiroth_dude

Is the steam version of fallout 3 easy too mod?

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

no harder than non-steam iirc

tbh the hardest part of it was always the loading order of the various mods you have installed and they have something called Boss now which will read your load order from the nexus mod manager and will reorganise them to avoid conflicts.
can't do all the mods but it has a master list of the most popular ones so it should make the entire process a lot simpler.

Dave_The_Sheep

norrie rugger wrote: »

You have any trouble downloading the mod packs?

I'll be honest, I never did. I usually download mods one at a time. One thing I did notice, if there are really large mods, like NMC's texture pack, you're better off downloading manually and adding to the Mod Manager, instead of using the download manager. Since big ones are in a few parts, the manager only seems to download the first one.

Sephiroth_dude

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

no harder than non-steam iirc

tbh the hardest part of it was always the loading order of the various mods you have installed and they have something called Boss now which will read your load order from the nexus mod manager and will reorganise them to avoid conflicts.
can't do all the mods but it has a master list of the most popular ones so it should make the entire process a lot simpler.

Any known issues with modding the goty edition on steam? tempted to get it because I lost my fallout 3 disc

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

i have the goty edition discs and I had no truble at all

actually that's not true, I had to disable GFWL because it interefered with some mods

pretty sure the steam version is fine but no actual experience with it

mawk

fallout 3 is probably the more technically proficient game, new vegas is the more fun one.

I think beth forgot that fallout always had a lot of humour. fo3 is very grim

I mean, I played the crap out of both, but I have better memories of nv.







and nv has less copy pasta subway tunnels.. ugh

Tar.Aldarion

I was thinking of getting
http://fallout3.nexusmods.com/mods/2761
http://fallout3.nexusmods.com/mods/2672
http://fallout3.nexusmods.com/mods/3211


can you not jsut download with the manager and it works?