Well done Donedeal (not)

E. Fudd

Donedeal won't allow any hunting or shooting related advertisements but they allow some fool to advertise a compound bow that he / she has "never not had a clean pass through a deer"!

http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/othersports/3530195

IMO Scandalous, regardless of him stating that bow hunting is illegal in Ireland.

Sparks

Did you report it?

johngalway

Yeah but........................ He's not said he bow hunts deer in Ireland with it.

From what I've watched of bow hunting I would not risk poaching deer with it in a small country like Ireland, they can and do run for a bit at times. Most, if not all, poachers will just shoot them.

E. Fudd

Sparks wrote: »

Did you report it?

I surely did.

John, I know he hasn't mentioned shooting deer in Ireland, it just comes across all wrong to me.

Why bother saying how he has never not had a clean pass through on deer?

deeksofdoom

Why report it?

johngalway

E. Fudd wrote: »

I surely did.

John, I know he hasn't mentioned shooting deer in Ireland, it just comes across all wrong to me.

Why bother saying how he has never not had a clean pass through on deer?

If you think of it another way, like how people use certain calibre rifles for say big or dangerous game hunting. Those rifles may have little to no practical use here in Ireland, but Irish people will still own them, still practice/zero them here, and travel abroad to use them in anger.

I see it a similar way for the bow that's mentioned. S/he may like to travel to the US or where ever it's legal to bow hunt, but practice here in Ireland.

If I had the money, I don't, I would get into bow hunting and have to travel for it.

I think it's too much of a risk from the home grown poacher angle.

kildare.17hmr

Dont see a problem with it tbh

dodderangler

Dont see anything wrong there for all you know that bow could've been used for deer in America and is now in Ireland

deeksofdoom

E. Fudd wrote: »

I surely did.

Well done on driving another nail into the 'Hunting Coffin' on donedeal. Yer man said he had used it for hunting dear, he stated clearly that it wasn't legal to hunt dear with it in Ireland.

Why don't you just go off now and report every instance of somebody selling a springer spaniel, pointer or Jack Russell - because they might be used for hunting.

Get a grip of yourself and get off your moral high horse your making a mountain out of nothing, while giving Donedeal another reason to turn on the hunting fraternity, because its hunting related its bad!:mad:

TriggerPL

deeksofdoom wrote: »

Well done on driving another nail into the 'Hunting Coffin' on donedeal. Yer man said he had used it for hunting dear, he stated clearly that it wasn't legal to hunt dear with it in Ireland.

Why don't you just go off now and report every instance of somebody selling a springer spaniel, pointer or Jack Russell - because they might be used for hunting.

Get a grip of yourself and get off your moral high horse your making a mountain out of nothing, while giving Donedeal another reason to turn on the hunting fraternity, because its hunting related its bad!:mad:

i agree your better not highlight things like this .

Caliden

If it's illegal to own the item (without a permit) for sale then it should be taken down, but it's not.
It's illegal to use it for hunting but not own so there's no reason for the ad to be removed.

blackstairsboy

There is no doubt that done deal is a great sight to shift yokes but to be honest I don't know why any fieldsports folk would give them any business. They are anti to the bone and I would rather give them one of my kidneys than 3 euro for placing an add.

djflawless

Caliden wrote: »

If it's illegal to own the item (without a permit) for sale then it should be taken down, but it's not.
It's illegal to use it for hunting but not own so there's no reason for the ad to be removed.

im in the full beliefs that the laws for compound bows mean that its ok to own and use one as long as the draw weight is less than 60lb draw...after that range im not too sure but as far as i know you CAN be licensed to carry one
not that it matters now..donedeal say the ad has been removed by the person who set up the ad

Grizzly 45

No liscense required for any kind of a bow here...,bar crossbows.
[Just in case Willhelm Tell decides to knock off the local post office:rolleyes::rolleyes:]

4200fps

Its a compound bow big wow. 1000's bow hunt in the states. Compound bows is legal and theres an archery club 20mins away from me full of them. Poor bugger got his add taken down due to fools reading it wrong.:mad: He done no harm

zen260

this is typical of users here on boards,,,who gives you the moral high ground just because u own a firearm???theres nothing wrong with this guys advert,,,its because of people like yeee (the guys who reported the add)thats fcuken it up for any1 who wants to list anything on the donedeal related to firearms,,they are even removing airsoft listings because like everything else in this country if it looks like a gun then it must be,,,it would suit people better to MIND THERE OWN BUISNESS here,,i own compound bows and have family in the states and have hunted there several times with a bow,,,turkeys and wild boar,,ect,,,so dont spoil it for everyone by being rat like

landkeeper

no licence required for any type of bow other than a crossbow
there are hundreds of responsible competent archers here using compound bows for target archery and field archery every weekend at organised competition ,a lot of the field archers use hunting type compounds as they tend to be smaller and more suited to shooting in woodland , as stated it's illegal to hunt anything here with a bow

Sparks

djflawless wrote: »

im in the full beliefs that the laws for compound bows mean that its ok to own and use one as long as the draw weight is less than 60lb draw.

There's no limit on the draw weight for a compound or recurve bow. Only crossbows have any kind of legal restriction (as they're restricted firearms in Ireland), the others can be bought and sold like corn flakes.

As to the mind-your-own-business "argument", how long ago was it that posters here were talking about boycotting donedeal because they were following an ICABS policy with respect to hunters? Or have people changed their minds from "stand up and pound the table" to "quietly sneak in ads against their stated policy and support them in the process"?

Mike87

Sparks wrote: »

As to the mind-your-own-business "argument", how long ago was it that posters here were talking about boycotting donedeal because they were following an ICABS policy with respect to hunters? Or have people changed their minds from "stand up and pound the table" to "quietly sneak in ads against their stated policy and support them in the process"?

I think the difference here is that the guy is selling the bow (presumably) for target work. SO this isnt really a case of "quietly sneak hunting adds in"... its a case of 'dont report the chap for hunting when he clearly states it cant be used for hunting'.

deeksofdoom

Sparks wrote: »

Did you report it?

Was that a trick question or something?

Sparks wrote: »

As to the mind-your-own-business "argument", how long ago was it that posters here were talking about boycotting donedeal because they were following an ICABS policy with respect to hunters? Or have people changed their minds from "stand up and pound the table" to "quietly sneak in ads against their stated policy and support them in the process"?

So what exactly are you talking about? Who cares if somebody sticks up something hunting related on donedeal and they get away with selling it, its not up to someone who claims to be a hunter to report it. Well and good if someone pulls a fast one on donedeal.

Sparks

deeksofdoom wrote: »

Was that a trick question or something?

Nope.

So what exactly are you talking about? Who cares if somebody sticks up something hunting related on donedeal and they get away with selling it, its not up to someone who claims to be a hunter to report it. Well and good if someone pulls a fast one on donedeal.

Me, I don't care that much; if I have stuff to sell, I won't use DoneDeal.

But I find it strange to see people go from criticising DoneDeal (rightly, IMHO) for doing what ICABS asked despite the larger hunting demographic; to supporting DoneDeal financially by posting ads with them. You think it's pulling a fast one on DoneDeal; it's not. If you have an ad there, any ad, for any item, it's financially supporting them. That's the reality of the site. If it breaks their policies and they don't catch it, that's just more money for them this quarter. And if you think it's any other way, you need to review their business model more closely.

It's pretty simple. If you disagree with their following ICABS' demands, don't use them. If you use them, you're rewarding businesses who prioritise the angry letters from a dozen malcontents in ICABS over the few hundred thousand people involved in hunting and fieldsports in Ireland.

It doesn't really bother me either way (hey, I'm one of those elitist new-fangled paper hunters don't'cha know, wouldn't know a fox from a deer except by the colour of the styrofoam tray in Tesco and all that)... but I would have thought it'd bother you guys a bit more is all.

deeksofdoom

Well the two things to take away from this whole thing are;
1. If you see a hunting related add on donedeal don't report it.
2. Don't use donedeal in the first place.