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Diesel Additive

  • 16-07-2012 12:25pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭


    Anybody using a diesel additive in their modern tractor to act against things like gelling and build up in the injectors? Some examples are Standadyne and VAP.

    Our Diesel comes for a reliable source. Have a new tank with a 10 Micron filter and water trap on it. Yet this new low sulphur diesel seems to have stripped any old crud that was in the tractor tank and the pre cleaning filter has visible dirt in it.

    Tractor hasn't lost any power or performance, but an odd occasion, it idles wrong and hunts a little. The pre-filter goes from being full to 3/4 full and this is when it idles wrong. Mechanic has recommended a new pre-clearner (even though there is only 150 hours on the last one) and garage that I bought it from recommends a bottle of additive to give the whole lot a good flush out.

    Mechanic said that an awful lot of contractors and farmers with modern tractors are having similar problems this year.

    Anyone got any opinions?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,258 ✭✭✭Tora Bora


    reilig wrote: »
    Anybody using a diesel additive in their modern tractor to act against things like gelling and build up in the injectors? Some examples are Standadyne and VAP.

    Our Diesel comes for a reliable source. Have a new tank with a 10 Micron filter and water trap on it. Yet this new low sulphur diesel seems to have stripped any old crud that was in the tractor tank and the pre cleaning filter has visible dirt in it.

    Tractor hasn't lost any power or performance, but an odd occasion, it idles wrong and hunts a little. The pre-filter goes from being full to 3/4 full and this is when it idles wrong. Mechanic has recommended a new pre-clearner (even though there is only 150 hours on the last one) and garage that I bought it from recommends a bottle of additive to give the whole lot a good flush out.

    Mechanic said that an awful lot of contractors and farmers with modern tractors are having similar problems this year.

    Anyone got any opinions?

    Lot's of fuel issues this year. Increasing problem every year, with these modern, tractors.
    My auld Zetor, takes no notice whatsoever, of fuel quality. One of the few benefits going with it:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,741 ✭✭✭stanflt


    reilig wrote: »
    Anybody using a diesel additive in their modern tractor to act against things like gelling and build up in the injectors? Some examples are Standadyne and VAP.

    Our Diesel comes for a reliable source. Have a new tank with a 10 Micron filter and water trap on it. Yet this new low sulphur diesel seems to have stripped any old crud that was in the tractor tank and the pre cleaning filter has visible dirt in it.

    Tractor hasn't lost any power or performance, but an odd occasion, it idles wrong and hunts a little. The pre-filter goes from being full to 3/4 full and this is when it idles wrong. Mechanic has recommended a new pre-clearner (even though there is only 150 hours on the last one) and garage that I bought it from recommends a bottle of additive to give the whole lot a good flush out.

    Mechanic said that an awful lot of contractors and farmers with modern tractors are having similar problems this year.

    Anyone got any opinions?

    had to get the injector pump over hauled on my tl90a- only 5000hrs on it- getting it back today- will start using additive


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    stanflt wrote: »
    had to get the injector pump over hauled on my tl90a- only 5000hrs on it- getting it back today- will start using additive

    I'd say that if you ran additive through it a couple of times per year, it would keep it clear.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 138 ✭✭Hay_man


    Would that Dipetane stuff be any good in it ?

    Seems to get good reviews on the motors forum

    I have an old smokey MF 100 series I'm considering throwing a bottle of Dipetane into it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 AgriAir


    I used the Dipethane on the MF 390 as a test to see if it would clear the injectors as the tractor was taking an age to start in the morning even with the Heat Start. It worked fine for me, the tractor started up in less than ten seconds. I use the Dipethane for my car after being recommended it by the mechanic for the NCT. You can use the same product on the car as the tractor.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭rs8


    any of them would be of use, put it into the tractor with about 30-40 litres of diesel and work it hard should do the job!

    hearing alot of issues with the new holland pumps this year being replaced, you can never be too carefull


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 oj9


    been using stanadyne for a few years since i upgraded the deere , it conditions the fuel an it burns cleaner and when i moved the storage tank indoors after 10 years it was spotless inside and no gunge or water lying the bottom. best time to add is when filling storage tank at rate of 1 to 500 and it costs 3 cents a litre of fuel if bought in a 19 litre drum.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    Well the change of filter and the standyne seems to have done the trick for me. Tractor has more power and is running smoother while agitating this evening. Hopefully it will continue like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    reilig wrote: »
    Well the change of filter and the standyne seems to have done the trick for me. Tractor has more power and is running smoother while agitating this evening. Hopefully it will continue like that.

    is it the color your fields should be by any chance:roll eyes:, good fuel husbandry and quick turnover of fuel is the key, if you don't have these then the additive may solve some of the problems


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,704 ✭✭✭dar31


    have been getting fierce problems in the tractors with steel diesel tanks for the last few years, corrosion on inside of tank , and filter blocking has this to do with new fuel, two tractors with plastic tanks never give any trouble


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 521 ✭✭✭Atilathehun


    dar31 wrote: »
    have been getting fierce problems in the tractors with steel diesel tanks for the last few years, corrosion on inside of tank , and filter blocking has this to do with new fuel, two tractors with plastic tanks never give any trouble

    Seriously speaking, would this snake oil be of any benefit for a lad with a 1998 zetor. Would it clear out a bit of gunk in the system and give a bit better running and or power.
    The same zetor was starting no bother in the worst of the frost we had a few years ago. Maybe I should leave well enough alone..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    Seriously speaking, would this snake oil be of any benefit for a lad with a 1998 zetor. Would it clear out a bit of gunk in the system and give a bit better running and or power.
    The same zetor was starting no bother in the worst of the frost we had a few years ago. Maybe I should leave well enough alone..

    No if you have dirt in your system you need to remove diesel tank get it power washed and then steam cleaned. Check your fuel filters and lift pump if they are dirty your injector pump will be dirty as well. Change filters and lift pump and get Injector pump reconditioned and cleaned. Install one of the small inline filters between tank and lift pump.

    Also make sure to filter diesel out of drums as you are pouring them into tanks. Also if you want to check if tank is dirty wait until less than half fullget a few clean 5 gallons drums and remove diesel exit pipe and empty tank into drums. Get another drum and filter diesel using calico cloth if there is dirt in the system the calico clth will show it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    Seriously speaking, would this snake oil be of any benefit for a lad with a 1998 zetor. Would it clear out a bit of gunk in the system and give a bit better running and or power.
    The same zetor was starting no bother in the worst of the frost we had a few years ago. Maybe I should leave well enough alone..

    I doubt it. As Pudsey says, you would need a full clean for that.
    The dirt in my inline filter was miniscule and it was idling a bit wrong with that. Its the modern engines. They don't like anything dirty. The diesel my tractor is filtered 3 times before it reaches the injectors.


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