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Airport police

  • 15-07-2012 10:51pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3


    anyone any idea if there is a recruitment drive coming up for airport police (mainly shannon) or how someone would go about getting a job there. Also is there an age limit, thanks.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 283 ✭✭An Udaras


    Recruitment into the Airport Police Fire Service (APFS) is now all undertaken in house within the DAA. Staff working for the DAA within the three state airports can apply for positions when advertised, Dublin Fire Brigade now have a similar system in place for internal recruitment. I believe there is no current plan to change this and recruit externally.

    The education requirements are the same of what the Gardai require for their entrants. A full clean driving licence is also mandatory.

    There is no upper age limit currently but each entrant is required to complete & pass a fitness test to demonstrate their ability to undertake successfully the duties expected of a member of the force.

    The recruitment selection process follows a similar syllabus to most other emergency services which would include fitness tests,appitiude testing both analytical,verbal reasoning etc.. This would be all screening prior to interviews taking place.

    I hope this helps give you some extra information about recruitment into the APFS.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66 ✭✭echo.lima


    The only way into the Airport Police is by getting a job with the DAA. From here thy advertise for positions internally as has been said already.

    As far as educational requirements the leaving certificate is not the be all and end all. I am aware of people who became airport police officers and firefighters with FETAC awards Level 5 minimum. Its more a matter of getting into the DAA and acing the various aptitude tests and interviews etc for these positions.

    You must have a driving license and any other relevant skills are a bonus ie languages,medical training etc..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,267 ✭✭✭Elessar


    echo.lima wrote: »
    The only way into the Airport Police is by getting a job with the DAA. From here thy advertise for positions internally as has been said already.

    As far as educational requirements the leaving certificate is not the be all and end all. I am aware of people who became airport police officers and firefighters with FETAC awards Level 5 minimum. Its more a matter of getting into the DAA and acing the various aptitude tests and interviews etc for these positions.

    You must have a driving license and any other relevant skills are a bonus ie languages,medical training etc..

    Also, you'd be lucky if you get a shot at applying for Airport Police once every 10 years. And then you'd be up against about 3000+ other people who also applied (the world and his wife wants to get into AP). And then there's the all prevalent cronyism that exists within the DAA - the AP recruiters already know who they'd like to employ. Friends of friends etc. Of course you still have to pass the tests aswell.

    And then there's the change in employment contracts coming up in which AP unions are locked in a battle with the DAA for (it's gone to the LRC AFAIK). Essentially the DAA want to employ new AP on €12.50/hr with longer days more work and worse contract terms. That is significantly less than current AP are on. They also wanted to split new AP recruits from current AP, essentially creating two AP companies for the one airport. Don't know which way it will slide yet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,451 ✭✭✭Delancey


    There does indeed exist something of a' tradition ' of family members in the Airport Police.
    The DAA would certainly not be an employer of choice if the contracts staff in Terminal 2 have are anything to go by - they don't even get to choose when they take their holidays !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 283 ✭✭An Udaras


    Elessar wrote: »
    Also, you'd be lucky if you get a shot at applying for Airport Police once every 10 years. And then you'd be up against about 3000+ other people who also applied (the world and his wife wants to get into AP). And then there's the all prevalent cronyism that exists within the DAA - the AP recruiters already know who they'd like to employ. Friends of friends etc. Of course you still have to pass the tests aswell.

    And then there's the change in employment contracts coming up in which AP unions are locked in a battle with the DAA for (it's gone to the LRC AFAIK). Essentially the DAA want to employ new AP on €12.50/hr with longer days more work and worse contract terms. That is significantly less than current AP are on. They also wanted to split new AP recruits from current AP, essentially creating two AP companies for the one airport. Don't know which way it will slide yet.

    You're information is hear'say and not accurate simply look up the APFS labour court registered agreement which provides a agreed structure re: members of the police/fire service and their agreed conditions & structures.

    T2 and its staff conditions has nothing to do with the APFS just to clarify €12.50 is the wage paid to a security guard-searcher & cleaners etc.. and not what would be paid a fully trained Police Officer or Firefighter who is protected per the above agreement, further more the rumour of a separated Police-Fire Service is not only ludicrious but it does not make organisational sense for an emergency service.

    And your use of language like 'cronyism' may lead people to feel you were an unsuccessful applicant in the past and your bitter over it. The DAA as a public service entity have to be just as open, transparent and accountable as the Gardai,Prisons,DFB or HSE when recruiting.

    Traditions of family members serving exist in the APFS just as they do in the AGS,DFB or Prisons etc.. No shock that sons & daughter want to continue traditions while also having a interesting & fulfilled career..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,267 ✭✭✭Elessar


    An Udaras wrote: »
    Elessar wrote: »
    Also, you'd be lucky if you get a shot at applying for Airport Police once every 10 years. And then you'd be up against about 3000+ other people who also applied (the world and his wife wants to get into AP). And then there's the all prevalent cronyism that exists within the DAA - the AP recruiters already know who they'd like to employ. Friends of friends etc. Of course you still have to pass the tests aswell.

    And then there's the change in employment contracts coming up in which AP unions are locked in a battle with the DAA for (it's gone to the LRC AFAIK). Essentially the DAA want to employ new AP on €12.50/hr with longer days more work and worse contract terms. That is significantly less than current AP are on. They also wanted to split new AP recruits from current AP, essentially creating two AP companies for the one airport. Don't know which way it will slide yet.

    You're information is hear'say and not accurate simply look up the APFS labour court registered agreement which provides a agreed structure re: members of the police/fire service and their agreed conditions & structures.

    T2 and its staff conditions has nothing to do with the APFS just to clarify €12.50 is the wage paid to a security guard-searcher & cleaners etc.. and not what would benefit e paid a fully trained Police Officer or Firefighter who is protected per the above agreement, further more the rumour of a separated Police-Fire Service is not only ludicrious but it does not make organisational sense for an emergency service.

    And your use of language like 'cronyism' may lead people to feel you were an unsuccessful applicant in the past and your bitter over it. The DAA as a public service entity have to be just as open, transparent and accountable as the Gardai,Prisons,DFB or HSE when recruiting.

    Traditions of family members serving exist in the APFS just as they do in the AGS,DFB or Prisons etc.. No shock that sons & daughter want to continue traditions while also having a interesting & fulfilled career..
    Nonsense. In Dublin airport, the DAA wants to hire new airport police for t2 only, a separate company as you may know, separate from the current police and on the much lower wages and contracts which would not be governed by current agreements. This I have learned from reliable sources I.e direct from the horses mouth. Cost reduction is a huge thing in the DAA atm and rates of pay is one of the main areas being hit.

    Another example : There was a redundancy programme for the asu recently and all new staff will now be on the lower standard.

    Do you even work in the airport?

    And no I am not bitter im disillusioned that certain people get precedence over others because they know or are related to someone else high up. I have seen umpteen examples. I know several entire families who work in the DAA. Mam, dad, son, daughter. One parent who is quite high up in hr...nothing against the individuals in question tbh, but it just smacks of cronyism and to think it isn't still happening would be deluded.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 sorefeet


    I have to say its not who you know in the daa...but what you know!!!


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