Luas fine and appeal

jdooley28

So I got fined last week (went into a zone my ticket didnt cover, had central 1 but was going to dockland didn't realise, not important anyway). My question is if i appeal it and the appeal is rejected will the fine go up?

The reason I want to do this is I am a bit skint until payday and don't really have a spare €45 until then.

corktina

I doubt your fine will go up, but Id be interested to know on what grounds you are appealing!

jdooley28

I have no grounds to appeal but I'm sure I can come up with sometjing creative Like I had the wrong ticket, I should have to pay a fine, I'm not in dispute of that I just need a way to delay it for a couple of weeks.

LFC5Times

Your fine won't go up, they will probably get back to you within a week of your letter of appeal and tell you the fine stands and then give you two weeks from the date of their letter back to you to pay the fine.

Victor

jdooley28 wrote: »

The reason I want to do this is I am a bit skint until payday and don't really have a spare €45 until then.

Don't they give you time to pay? Something like 30 days?

AltAccount

LFC5Times wrote: »

Your fine won't go up, they will probably get back to you within a week of your letter of appeal and tell you the fine stands and then give you two weeks from the date of their letter back to you to pay the fine.

You don't know what happens if you forget to tag off, but you know how the appeals process works?

miller50841

€45 is cheap as its €100 now on the bus. Your one of the decent ones accepting you made the mistake and are not trying to blame somebody else . Do you use often did they explain what tickets would suit you as to save money and also not to be caught out again in case you were to make a mistake again. Look up the net for suitable tickets, The LEAP card saves you in and around 20 cent or so a journey

LFC5Times

AltAccount wrote: »

You don't know what happens if you forget to tag off, but you know how the appeals process works?

Obviously.

jdooley28

Na don't use it often usually walk from the bus stop but was running late so had to jump on the LUAS. Think I'll just pay it and go bread and water for a few days :-) it's not 30 days which would be grand it's14 days which I thought was a bit harsh

AlekSmart

jdooley28 wrote: »

Na don't use it often usually walk from the bus stop but was running late so had to jump on the LUAS. Think I'll just pay it and go bread and water for a few days :-) it's not 30 days which would be grand it's14 days which I thought was a bit harsh

.....Good to see a poster who accepts that,at least in part,it was'nt the Evil Empire which forced it's rules upon them...:)

jdooley28

i was running late so decided to jump on the LUAS:)

foggy_lad

jdooley28 wrote: »

i was running late so decided to jump on the LUAS:)

If he had been injecting heroine there would have been no fine and the staff would not have gone near him at all.

oisindoyle

"scuse my ignorance in all this fine business.But if you are caught is it an on the spot fine or do they post it out to you .
Also couldn't you have given a false name and address and if so how can they prove you are who you are .
Obviously I am not promoting law breaking ,but just wondering

Victor

oisindoyle wrote: »

"scuse my ignorance in all this fine business.But if you are caught is it an on the spot fine or do they post it out to you .

On the spot fine.

Also couldn't you have given a false name and address and if so how can they prove you are who you are .

First, they insist on ID and may call the Garda if you don't cooperate and secondly, people are creatures of habit - you will want to use that Luas again and the next time things are going to be a lot more strict.

laoisfan

Victor wrote: »

On the spot fine.

First, they insist on ID and may call the Garda if you don't cooperate and secondly, people are creatures of habit - you will want to use that Luas again and the next time things are going to be a lot more strict.

Even though one is not required by law to carry ID

Our man in Havana

As Ireland is not a police state with compulsory ID cards, there is no requirement to carry any ID.

LXFlyer

Indeed, but I do always feel that people who take that argument ignore the fact that in the event of an accident or other emergency, carrying ID makes identifying a person an awful lot easier and faster.

AlekSmart

Our man in Havana wrote: »

As Ireland is not a police state with compulsory ID cards, there is no requirement to carry any ID.

An interesting position to adopt sure enough.

Mind you,OM in H will surely be less than enthusiastic about the forthcoming requirements to verify Identity for the NEW ! IMPROVED !! Credit Card Driving Licence...

Indications are that the RSA/Gardai are seeking to have a far stricter establishment of ID for the first issue of the CC Driving Licence,with both Fingerprinting and Retina Scanning already discussed,albeit in hushed tones.....;)

The issue on most of these threads is not ID cards per se,but rather the establishment or verification of a pasengers identity.

Thought through,it's apparent that carrying a universally recognized form of Legal Identification can only be a positive thing,unless there are other pressing reasons for maintaining anonymity...

Our man in Havana

It doesn't bother me as I don't have an Irish driving licence.

AlekSmart

Our man in Havana wrote: »

It doesn't bother me as I don't have an Irish driving licence.

But it's not just about YOU,y'see...it's a far broader issue than any single individuals interpretation of the rights and wrongs of being required to carry verification of their Identity.

Why would it be seen as anything to do wiff a Police State ??

Victor

Our man in Havana wrote: »

As Ireland is not a police state with compulsory ID cards, there is no requirement to carry any ID.

The reality is that most people carry some form of ID, e.g. a bank card.

CIE

What percentage of the population really do carry ID of whatever form?

davidlacey

Bank card wouldnt be a great example of I.D as there is no photograph or address given

Victor

davidlacey wrote: »

Bank card wouldnt be a great example of I.D as there is no photograph or address given

Sure, but if I claim to be Joe Bloggs and my bank card says John Smith, then that kinda indicates I'm not telling the truth.

Banditoo MC

Typical skanger excuse imo.