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Clubs with Qualifying Comps Saturday and Sunday

  • 12-07-2012 11:06am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭


    Joined a new club to the end of the year but the weekend competition (including medals) is played over both Saturday and Sunday. Not sure I like this format and might move at the end of the year.

    So which clubs in the Dublin/Wicklow/Kildare are have separate qualifying comps on both Saturday and Sunday? Oh yeah they must be affiliated too ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,465 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Joined a new club to the end of the year but the weekend competition (including medals) is played over both Saturday and Sunday. Not sure I like this format and might move at the end of the year.

    So which clubs in the Dublin/Wicklow/Kildare are have separate qualifying comps on both Saturday and Sunday? Oh yeah they must be affiliated too ;)

    I'm confused.
    Is it a 36 hole comp or an 18 that has a choice of two days you can play in?

    If its not 36 then I dont see what the problem is or how it affects you?
    Lots of clubs have their weekly comp over more than 1 day to allow everyone to play competition golf.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭bustercherry


    GreeBo wrote: »
    I'm confused.
    Is it a 36 hole comp or an 18 that has a choice of two days you can play in?

    If its not 36 then I dont see what the problem is or how it affects you?
    Lots of clubs have their weekly comp over more than 1 day to allow everyone to play competition golf.

    18 with played over 2 days. Would prefer a club that has 2 separate qualifying comps, one on Sat and the other on Sun, every weekend (where possible). That way everyone can play competitive golf and if I want to play 2 qualifying comps a week I can. Never said was a problem, just not sure I like the format of having an 18 hole comp run over 2 days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,465 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    18 with played over 2 days. Would prefer a club that has 2 separate qualifying comps, one on Sat and the other on Sun, every weekend (where possible). That way everyone can play competitive golf and if I want to play 2 qualifying comps a week I can. Never said was a problem, just not sure I like the format of having an 18 hole comp run over 2 days.

    If they were two separate comps then lots of people wouldnt get to play in all the comps...
    e.g. Monthly Medal on Saturday and X Cup on Sunday. Very few people would be able to play in both of those comps. Also it would impact things like golfer of the year etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭bustercherry


    GreeBo wrote: »
    If they were two separate comps then lots of people wouldnt get to play in all the comps...
    e.g. Monthly Medal on Saturday and X Cup on Sunday. Very few people would be able to play in both of those comps. Also it would impact things like golfer of the year etc.

    Worked pretty well at SC. The calender is published before the season kicks off, GOTY unaffected as it's the best scores from eg. 5 out of 12 qualifying comps. Medals/Majors over 1 day only and never 2 majors in the 1 weekend (probably consecutive weeks too). People had more than enough time to look at the arrangements. Forgetting all that though, for qualifying comps (not part of GOTY) you could have 2 separate comps on Saturday and Sunday providing you have the numbers; which I would expect the reason behind most having the comp over 2 days is because clubs are concerned they may not attract the minimum number.

    I didn't ask for the reasoning behind having comps over 2 days. I don't see how this is answering the question I raised? I don't see what your trying to achieve? Is this contributing in a constructive way either?
    No to all of the above.

    Now getting back to the actual question? Do any clubs in round the area I specified run separate 18 hole qualifying competitions of a Saturday and Sunday?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,331 ✭✭✭mike12


    Bellewstown have a Comp every Saturday and Sunday along with a open every Wednesday it's a bit out of your search area.
    Mike


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,724 ✭✭✭Nozebleed


    mike12 wrote: »
    Bellewstown have a Comp every Saturday and Sunday along with a open every Wednesday it's a bit out of your search area.
    Mike

    citywest also have this format.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,742 ✭✭✭✭Wichita Lineman


    I would have thought there are few enough clubs around that would have seperate competitions on Saturday and Sunday. Moate certainly dont anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,465 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Worked pretty well at SC. The calender is published before the season kicks off, GOTY unaffected as it's the best scores from eg. 5 out of 12 qualifying comps. Medals/Majors over 1 day only and never 2 majors in the 1 weekend (probably consecutive weeks too). People had more than enough time to look at the arrangements. Forgetting all that though, for qualifying comps (not part of GOTY) you could have 2 separate comps on Saturday and Sunday providing you have the numbers; which I would expect the reason behind most having the comp over 2 days is because clubs are concerned they may not attract the minimum number.

    I didn't ask for the reasoning behind having comps over 2 days. I don't see how this is answering the question I raised? I don't see what your trying to achieve? Is this contributing in a constructive way either?
    No to all of the above.

    Now getting back to the actual question? Do any clubs in round the area I specified run separate 18 hole qualifying competitions of a Saturday and Sunday?
    You are missing the point.
    It doesn't matter if the diary is printed ahead of time. If the sheet holds 100 names and you have 160 people who want to play in a goty comp then you have a problem. That's why most clubs have multiple days, to facilitate the members who want to play.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,955 ✭✭✭Russman


    I never realised comps held over more than one day were that common TBH.

    In my own club, Slade Valley, the Saturday and Sunday comps are always separate. Usually (not always) the bigger comps, say a Medal, will be on the Saturday and a "normal" singles comp on the Sunday. Saturday is usually played off the back tees and the Sunday is usually off the forward tees. Again, not always though. Both comps, if singles, would always be qualifying.

    Our GoY is run over a set number of events (6 medals plus 4 or 5 majors) with points awarded for top 10 finishes. At the end of the year, most points wins. Just like formula one !! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,574 ✭✭✭BoardsMember


    GreeBo wrote: »
    If they were two separate comps then lots of people wouldnt get to play in all the comps...
    e.g. Monthly Medal on Saturday and X Cup on Sunday. Very few people would be able to play in both of those comps. Also it would impact things like golfer of the year etc.

    Doubt you'd find many clubs with enough Cups & Medals etc to have "important" competitions on both days of the weekend throughout the year. Our place has the 7 day member competition on Saturday, whatever the Cup/medal happens to be, and then a stableford opt-in qualifying competition on Sunday. A timesheet is used at all times, 7 days a week, on Sunday you can play casual golf or play and enter. It works well. Having a single competition over 2 days as a rule (rather than an exception for the majors, for example) seems a bit OTT to me. You can get a fair amount of people out during a full day of golf, particularly with summer time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭bustercherry


    GreeBo wrote: »
    You are missing the point.
    It doesn't matter if the diary is printed ahead of time. If the sheet holds 100 names and you have 160 people who want to play in a goty comp then you have a problem. That's why most clubs have multiple days, to facilitate the members who want to play.

    So Greebo, I can take it from your posts your club does not have separate 18 hole qualifying comps at the weekend.

    Thank you for your help.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭bustercherry


    Thanks Mike, Noze, etc.....

    All I wanted was people to post the name of their club if they followed this format at the weekends, not a discussion on which is approach is better. I and I'm sure everyone is well aware of the benefits/negatives of both.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 279 ✭✭shaneon77


    knightsbrook operate separate comps on both Saturday and Sunday


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭Berty44


    Slade Valley have separate qualifying competitions Saturday and Sunday, usually off different markers each day. Usually play the more important competitions on a Saturday of the back markers. Oviously there are some 4 balls / other formats from time to time etc some weekends.

    Also once a month a semi-open qualifying competion on a Wednesday and if you qualify age wise an open Seniors one Thursday a month


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72 ✭✭airguitar


    Blessington Lakes play the same competition over Saturday and Sunday. The scores are aggregated and a separate CSS is calculated for each day. It gives more of the members a chance to play. About 20% play on a Saturday and the remainder play on a Sunday. We also have a midweek competition (open) played over two days Tuesday and Wednesday with the same format. The mandate for using this format was given by the members at an AGM several years back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,232 ✭✭✭Dr_Colossus


    airguitar wrote: »
    Blessington Lakes play the same competition over Saturday and Sunday. The scores are aggregated and a separate CSS is calculated for each day. It gives more of the members a chance to play. About 20% play on a Saturday and the remainder play on a Sunday. We also have a midweek competition (open) played over two days Tuesday and Wednesday with the same format. The mandate for using this format was given by the members at an AGM several years back.

    Presume the pin placements stay the same for both the Sat and Sun to make conditions as comparable as possible so then it's up to the members to select the best day weather wise. However if you're due to play the competition Sun that therefore means you can't play the course on Sat or are re-entries allowed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,465 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Presume the pin placements stay the same for both the Sat and Sun to make conditions as comparable as possible so then it's up to the members to select the best day weather wise. However if you're due to play the competition Sun that therefore means you can't play the course on Sat or are re-entries allowed?

    Course would have to be the same for both days.
    In my course you can only be on the timesheet for one of the days, (Friday or Saturday + the odd Sunday) I dont think anyone would risk not entering until on the day, you might not get out at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭Webbs


    Presume the pin placements stay the same for both the Sat and Sun to make conditions as comparable as possible so then it's up to the members to select the best day weather wise. However if you're due to play the competition Sun that therefore means you can't play the course on Sat or are re-entries allowed?

    As far as I am aware you can play a course on the Saturday before playing the comp on sunday if club/committee have local rule to allow it.
    Some clubs for example allow casual play on sat but have to play off different tee markers from the competition tees.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭mikeunt


    Presume the pin placements stay the same for both the Sat and Sun to make conditions as comparable as possible so then it's up to the members to select the best day weather wise. However if you're due to play the competition Sun that therefore means you can't play the course on Sat or are re-entries allowed?

    re entries allowed


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