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Nvidia & All Laptop manufactures

  • 11-07-2012 9:13am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭


    Bit of rant here but a short one.

    I have a stack of laptops I am repairing for ppl. all supposedly Dead motherboards, Really all GPU fails and the fix for everyone of them so far is the same.

    Have HP, Parkard Bell, Apple , Dell.(more than one of each manu) all the repairs are Bake the main board for 7min at 200C and when re applying the heat sink add a copper shim between the GPU and Heatsink. I have reassembled some of them to test with out the copper shim , and GPU is at 70-80Deg while laptop is idle and that's 5-10min after boot up. With the Shim in place GPU temp sits a 50degs and 65ish on a full load.

    HOW CAN SO MANY MANUFACTURES GET THE SAME THING WRONG > FFS . the SHIM COSTS LESS THAN A EURO.
    I know there was recalls on some of the laptops but for most users they didn't know or even hear about it and Time of recalls has passed.

    Not sure They will last forever with the repair, but if they had been done right the first time. I am also tired of stripping laptops down and putting them back together ...there is always one bloody screw left over ...GRRRRR


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Yep. I luckily heard about it in the early days and about the last month of my warranty.

    You will notice though there are not that many Apple, HP, or Dell PCs these days that ship with Nvidia products. Proper order.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,267 ✭✭✭h57xiucj2z946q


    My laptop suffers from the dreaded Nvidia GPU defective cooling architecture also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    actually the most irritating part is the customers who come in saying "I don't want another HP. They SUCK! My last one ran really hot and bla bla bla" or my favorite throw away bigoted statements like "I hear all HPs run very hot" Granted most of the time you ask them if they had a nvidia gpu in there and suddenly you look like a well informed gentlemen who drinks Dos Equis and they listen to you.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 994 ✭✭✭carbon nanotube


    Overheal wrote: »
    Yep. I luckily heard about it in the early days and about the last month of my warranty.

    You will notice though there are not that many Apple, HP, or Dell PCs these days that ship with Nvidia products. Proper order.


    most mid to high end gpu's now are fine.

    I had a 9800GTX-M Sli before my current GTX 560M, no problems with these guys.

    most hard core gamers prefer nvidia.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭zenno


    Joeface wrote: »
    Bit of rant here but a short one.

    I have a stack of laptops I am repairing for ppl. all supposedly Dead motherboards, Really all GPU fails and the fix for everyone of them so far is the same.

    Have HP, Parkard Bell, Apple , Dell.(more than one of each manu) all the repairs are Bake the main board for 7min at 200C and when re applying the heat sink add a copper shim between the GPU and Heatsink. I have reassembled some of them to test with out the copper shim , and GPU is at 70-80Deg while laptop is idle and that's 5-10min after boot up. With the Shim in place GPU temp sits a 50degs and 65ish on a full load.

    HOW CAN SO MANY MANUFACTURES GET THE SAME THING WRONG > FFS . the SHIM COSTS LESS THAN A EURO.
    I know there was recalls on some of the laptops but for most users they didn't know or even hear about it and Time of recalls has passed.

    Not sure They will last forever with the repair, but if they had been done right the first time. I am also tired of stripping laptops down and putting them back together ...there is always one bloody screw left over ...GRRRRR

    I done a few with this problem myself and added the shim or two but this method only lasts a short while and it will fail again as there is a real problem with the solder. It is a pain forsure having to open up the laptops all the time but from my experience the new compound and added shims only make them work for a while and then they go again, bad manufacturing is all it is so a new mobo is usually the only way to permanently fix them or a new graphics card. Done the bake about 60 times for people but they go again a few weeks or months later. though very handy if a person needs to backup their files from the computer as at least they have a bit of time to do so. Also always take the cpu fan out and pull the black flap back to see is there a big clump of solidified fluff blocking the air-intake as a year old laptop will have a blockage of hardened fluff in there normally which affects the cooling.

    Oh, one more thing which is worth a shot and saves you from taking the whole mobo out is this...just disconnect the laptop cpu fan connector and turn the laptop back the right side up and turn it on and leave it on till it over-heats the cpu and gpu and when it shuts down on it's own leave it for 5 minutes or more and reconnect the cpu fan connector and it will work again.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,418 ✭✭✭Dartz


    The old 8400/8600-series faults? I remember the fuss four years ago or so. Especially with certain Dells and HP's that used some sort of thermal pad instead of a proper copper shim causing the GPU's to overheat.

    I know my 1530 runs pretty warm when gaming, but it's lasted through 4 years or so of hard use with little trouble. Actually... the speaker mounted over the vent failed. Twice.

    That said, it has developed a screen fault in the last couple of weeks. Not a GPU failure, but a sticking magnetic lid-switch causing it to stay turned off, especially when warm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭Joeface


    3 of the laptops back up and running now.
    2 to go.
    I do use the oven trick , Easy for me to do as we have Ovens for other electronic parts at work so just turn it up a bit higher for my side projects, but on the second fail I go all out and use the IR Reflow station here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 654 ✭✭✭sparkle_23


    I bought a HP Pavillion DV6 a couple of weeks ago. Has 2GB dedicated Nvidia Geforce GT 640m! Will my laptop have this problem?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭Joeface


    probably not .

    models I have come across from HP have been DV2000 and DV3000(i think)

    Both had A 8600 series GPU as did the other manufactures oddly enough :rolleyes:.

    Have not seen this issue with newer HPs or other manufactures.

    All these models are easily 4-5 years old.

    And as for GFX cards in general , the highest part number I have repaired is a GTX295. and that's even 4years old at this stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 631 ✭✭✭hadoken13


    Joeface wrote: »
    probably not .

    models I have come across from HP have been DV2000 and DV3000(i think)

    Both had A 8600 series GPU as did the other manufactures oddly enough :rolleyes:.

    Have not seen this issue with newer HPs or other manufactures.

    All these models are easily 4-5 years old.

    And as for GFX cards in general , the highest part number I have repaired is a GTX295. and that's even 4years old at this stage.

    Do you repair in your own time or in your work? Reason I am asking is that I believe my GPU (GeForce 8600 I think) appears to have shat itself and I am wondering if replacing the GPU is the solution. The laptop is 5 or 6 years old (spent a load on it back then) and I have got great value out of it. I'm thinking of an upgrade but would love to have my old one back working to have as a spare.

    Edit: the laptop starts, lights flash then it turns itself on and constantly repeats.


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