Heres why Gadaffi was actually murdered...

fkface

Libya is a mess right now, the elections there today are complete joke.

Even some visitors to the CT forum know people personally profitting from the mayhem taking place there today.

I don't know anyone myself who could earn a wage at the expense of someone's misery, but people will sell their mother for a dime and have probably sold their own soul already.

The following video looks at some of the reasons why Gaddafi was killed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTuNaBXfFx0

These people that refuse to acknowledge western involvement in overthrowing governments in the middle east are being dishonest with themselves.

They enjoy the indulgent lifestyle at the expense of poor people, it's probably safe to say, the rich get an erection at watching people starve to death.

Run_to_da_hills

Gadaffi was killed at point blank range without trial by the same murderers that are currently raping Syria in the name of fighting so called terror. .

"After several months of heavy fighting, bombing and slaughter and destruction, Colonel Muammar Gaddafi is dead, he has been captured and murdered without trial following the fall of his home town of Sirte to Libyan revolutionary NTC forces, who in-turn were directed, funded and supported by the New World Order and their puppets, Barack Obama, David Cameron and Nicolas Sarkozy".

/Mod snip: Link below contains graphic video.

http://www.pakalertpress.com/2011/10/22/gaddafi-is-dead-long-live-the-new-world-order/

wingsof daun

Yes, that WAS a heroic martyr from Sirte whose pictures and who looked very like Muammar Gaddafi and were posted on Al-Jazeera, but whose name was NOT Muammar Gaddafi. Thanks for posting anyway this brave hero, but Muammar probably was incinerated in a NATO bomb on that same day and I think yes, Obama and co had a part to play in his death. Hear the voice from Green Libya (free Libya):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AXjipjX6lU&list=FLP4EBzqAgiwnc9Wt49B5NxA&index=5&feature=plpp_video

Monty Burnz

fkface wrote: »

They enjoy the indulgent lifestyle at the expense of poor people, it's probably safe to say, the rich get an erection at watching people starve to death.

It's a persistent myth that for person 'a' to be rich person 'b' needs to be poor. It's totally untrue.

Jonny7

fkface wrote: »

the rich get an erection at watching people starve to death.

Definite candidate for Quote of the Year on boards.

Monty Burnz

Jonny7 wrote: »

Definite candidate for Quote of the Year on boards.

Indeed, even if it flies in the face of common sense.

Corkfeen

Fkface, you've posted three topics on the 'Zionist' illuminati style plot in a matter of hours. You competing against RTDH?

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Indeed, even if it flies in the face of common sense.

Why is there an erection flying in the face of common sense? :pac: In fact, why is the word erection appearing at all.....

hooradiation

fkface wrote: »

the elections there today are complete joke.

It's funny, there is no result from libya yet you're assured they are a 'joke'.

As is tradition, I'm going to have to assume you're one of 'them' with your access to information that the rest of us don't have.

Torakx

Think you made some rich people angry lol

studiorat

Torakx wrote: »

Think you made some rich people angry lol

fkface

Torakx wrote: »

Think you made some rich people angry lol

The best way to deal with a troll is to ignore them.
Now and then I like to poke them with a stick just to see if they're still alive.

As you can see, it works like a charm.

Tym

No, I think he was killed becuased of the power struggle between the older hierarchie (Many of whom were Gadaffis government officials) and the younger members of the uprising. It's not a coincidence that the guy shown beside Gadaffi when he was beaten was the same guy who was shown waving a flag (or a picture) in Gadaffi's building.

JustinDee

fkface wrote: »

These people that refuse to acknowledge western involvement in overthrowing governments in the middle east are being dishonest with themselves

What about non-Western govt involvement in the Middle East and its presiding regimes? Why keep focussing on "Da Big Bad West"??
Why ignore the likes of Russian and Chinese involvement in the region? Iranian and Syrian even? And not only that region but of Central/Southern Europe and Asia too? Whatever subjective cause-du-jour floats the boat, I suppose . . .


Libya isn't in the Middle East, by the way.

fkface

Here we go with Pro-Zionist lobby of boards.ie, the fascist loving Islamophobes.

What about non-Western govt involvement in the Middle East and its presiding regimes? Why keep focussing on "Da Big Bad West"??
Why ignore the likes of Russian and Chinese involvement in the region? Iranian and Syrian even? And not only that region but of Central/Southern Europe and Asia too? Whatever subjective cause-du-jour floats the boat, I suppose . . .

Yeah, Saudi Arabia and Qatar are doing this all by themselves, just like they were behind sponsoring the "freedom fighters" in Afghanistan during the 1980s against USSR.

Seriously JustinDee, when do you and brimal take a break from trying to distort reality?

Libya isn't in the Middle East, by the way.

No, it's in North Africa next to Egypt, which apparently Israel want USA to invade by 2015.

Jonny7

fkface wrote: »

No, it's in North Africa next to Egypt, which apparently Israel want USA to invade by 2015.

Direct question

What is the source of this claim? i.e. where did you get it from?

fkface

Why? Surely it must be a lie?

Joseph Alsob claimed it in article written back in 2003 i think, that's why i said "apparently" not saying "it will happen" but current events in Egypt with the Muslim Brotherhood gaining power would suggest a war of some kind might break out there and maybe Joseph was right.

Corkfeen

fkface wrote: »

Why? Surely it must be a lie?

Joseph Alsob claimed it in article written back in 2003 i think, that's why i said "apparently" not saying "it will happen" but current events in Egypt with the Muslim Brotherhood gaining power would suggest a war of some kind might break out there and maybe Joseph was right.

Who exactly is Joseph Alsob? Unless you're referring to Joseph Alsop, in which case there is definitely a conspiracy going on. Given the fact that he died in 1989 but was apparently still writing articles in 2003 according to you. :pac: Link to article perhaps?

Jonny7

fkface wrote: »

Why? Surely it must be a lie?

Joseph Alsob claimed it in article written back in 2003 i think, that's why i said "apparently" not saying "it will happen" but current events in Egypt with the Muslim Brotherhood gaining power would suggest a war of some kind might break out there and maybe Joseph was right.

Don't you mean Joseph Alsop? where is this article? was it written for "Le Monde"?

christmas2012

The real people in power pulling the strings and instigating such conflicts for their own interests who rub shoulders with politicians arent even seen in the public eye some of them are secret agents (even in the uk and elsewhere) who were involved in the murder of gadaffi..

fkface

Corkfeen wrote: »

Who exactly is Joseph Alsob? Unless you're referring to Joseph Alsop, in which case there is definitely a conspiracy going on. Given the fact that he died in 1989 but was apparently still writing articles in 2003 according to you. :pac: Link to article perhaps?

Well, I was told about this by someone else and I have to admit being very sceptical at the time asking what importance Egypt would have to Israel and the people I spoke to explained it was part of the "The promised Land"

Now, that means fk all to me personally and because they felt my sceptical response was quite ignorant, they didn't elaborate futher but perhaps the professional trolls with all their infinite knowledge of the middle east and Zionism can shed some light on it? What exactly is this "promised land"

Who lived there and who promised it to them?

JustinDee

fkface wrote: »

Here we go with Pro-Zionist lobby of boards.ie, the fascist loving Islamophobes

Enough with the name-calling.
I'm not "pro-Zionist", a fascist (or "fascist lover") nor am I anti-Muslim.

fkface wrote: »

Yeah, Saudi Arabia and Qatar are doing this all by themselves, just like they were behind sponsoring the "freedom fighters" in Afghanistan during the 1980s against USSR

I asked a question. Don't answer if you can't. You're just exemplifying what I'm saying when I mention your preference towards very selective subjectivity.

fkface wrote: »

Seriously JustinDee, when do you and brimal take a break from trying to distort reality?

If you're going to credibly discuss geopolitical matters, then you have to discuss it from a geopolitical standpoint. Rather than a myopic and obviously pro-agendaic tunnel-vision, you should really stop cutting out other factors, namely the other side of the coin when it comes to proxy-diplomacy and/or espionage.
The reality of it is that there are far more nations active in the region than the picture you repeatedly keep trying to paint.

fkface wrote: »

No, it's in North Africa next to Egypt . . . etc

So its not Middle East.
You're welcome.
As for the 2015 claim of yours, seriously fella . . .

fkface

JustinDee wrote:

Enough with the name-calling.
I'm not "pro-Zionist", a fascist (or "fascist lover") nor am I anti-Muslim

Yes you are, that's obvious by your posts on boards.ie
You, brimal and few others are like the 'Dream Team' of Israeli propaganda.

I asked a question. Don't answer if you can't. You're just exemplifying what I'm saying when I mention your preference towards very selective subjectivity.

It's obvious US are behind the overthrow of Syrian regime. They can hide their funding behind Saudi Arabia and Qatar and it might look like Turkey are sheltering the Wahhabi thugs murdering Syrian civilians but we all know the US/Israel/UK are behind it.

I don't support murdering poor people in the desert, only fascists do that.

If you're going to credibly discuss geopolitical matters, then you have to discuss it from a geopolitical standpoint. Rather than a myopic and obviously pro-agendaic tunnel-vision, you should really stop cutting out other factors, namely the other side of the coin when it comes to proxy-diplomacy and/or espionage.
The reality of it is that there are far more nations active in the region than the picture you repeatedly keep trying to paint.

You don't want to credibly discuss the issue, you just want everyone to believe your standpoint which is Saudi Arabia and Qatar or some other Sunni controlled states are providing the minority Sunnis in Syria support when in reality this is most likely a US led operation at the request of your fascist neo-con friends in Israel/America.

Let's forget the fact that Saudi Arabia is an unelected oppressive dictatorship for 40 years which even Obama kneels down to.



What did the Saudi King say? "Bow down and kiss da ring?"

Don't be surprised when Saudis finally overthrow this regime too.

As for the 2015 claim of yours.

Maybe you need to read my posts properly, I said it was conveyed to me by someone else.

And is it that unbelievable some Zionist maniacs would want to re-establish "The Promised Land" ? I mean ...they've already succeeded in dragging the western world into a perpetual war with Islam so what else would/could they not accomplish if they wanted.

THESE ARE GODS CHOSEN PEOPLE, LET'S NOT FORGET THAT GOD PROMISED THEM THE LAND.

Knock yourself out trying to think of subtle ways to insult me in your responses. I can sleep at night though knowing I don't support fascism.

Jonny7

fkface wrote: »

I don't support murdering poor people in the desert, only fascists do that.

Who's murdering who in what desert?

Monty Burnz

fkface wrote: »

Don't be surprised when Saudis finally overthrow this regime too.

Of course if they ever do, it will be put down to a conspiracy on the part of the US, Israel, the Illuminati, THEM, and so forth...

brimal

fkface wrote: »

Yes you are, that's obvious by your posts on boards.ie
You, brimal and few others are like the 'Dream Team' of Israeli propaganda.

I have never had any interaction with you but you choose to target me.. very odd.

I presume you are a re-reg of superluck. The posting style is very similar (immature, aggressive, unable to engage in debate, anti-science, etc.)

fkface

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Of course if they ever do, it will be put down to a conspiracy on the part of the US, Israel, the Illuminati, THEM, and so forth...

By THEM, do you mean Zionists?

Go and watch the Zionist story and learn about them because it's not some kind of fantasy, these people exist and have a lot of power.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDxYRMbfNg8

chainsawman

CIA had something to do with his murder because the Western Government, mainly in USA is afraid what he will tell in court if he was alive... That is my own belief.

Monty Burnz

fkface wrote: »

By THEM, do you mean Zionists?

To be fair, I think I had 'Zionism' well covered by citing Israel.

JustinDee

fkface wrote: »

Yes you are, that's obvious by your posts on boards.ie
You, brimal and few others are like the 'Dream Team' of Israeli propaganda

Presumptuous, subjective, unqualified and incorrect rubbish.

fkface wrote: »

It's obvious US are behind the overthrow of Syrian regime. They can hide their funding behind Saudi Arabia and Qatar and it might look like Turkey are sheltering the Wahhabi thugs murdering Syrian civilians but we all know the US/Israel/UK are behind it

Nothing is obvious about the region and who is "behind it". Obviously not to you as you only tag one side of it all.

fkface wrote: »

I don't support murde
ring poor people in the desert, only fascists do that

Again, you're claiming that only one outside influence propagates this (the bloc of allies you keep banging on about). Couldn't be further from the truth.

fkface wrote: »

You don't want to credibly discuss the issue, you just want everyone to believe your standpoint which is Saudi Arabia and Qatar or some other Sunni controlled states are providing the minority Sunnis in Syria support when in reality this is most likely a US led operation at the request of your fascist neo-con friends in Israel/America

Rubbish. For proxy powers in the region and the other regions I mentioned, I've taken most of the active powers into consideration in addition to US, France, UK etc. Examples being Syria in Lebanon. Iran in Syria and Lebanon. Russia with Iran, Syria, Lebanon and in cahoots with support from China which has existed since the early 60s there, following on from the Soviets digging heels in.

fkface wrote: »

Let's forget the fact that Saudi Arabia is an unelected oppressive dictatorship for 40 years which even Obama kneels down to

You've claimed I'm anti-Muslim. Now I support Saudia Arabia's regimes? Make your mind up.

fkface wrote: »

Maybe you need to read my posts properly, I said it was conveyed to me by someone else

You said that afterwards. "Bloke down the pub" or "Me mam's friend's husband's mate works with a bloke whose daughter knows the brother of a pilot of a plane that flew over Turkey once" doesn't really constitute expert opinion, by the way.

fkface wrote: »

And is it that unbelievable some Zionist maniacs would want to re-establish "The Promised Land" ? I mean ...they've already succeeded in dragging the western world into a perpetual war with Islam so what else would/could they not accomplish if they wanted

Who are "they"? Where is this theory of yours in credence exactly?

fkface wrote: »

THESE ARE GODS CHOSEN PEOPLE, LET'S NOT FORGET THAT GOD PROMISED THEM THE LAND

You're assuming that all Israelis are pro-Zionist religious zealots. This again is rubbish, as assuming Jews generally think like that too.

fkface wrote: »

Knock yourself out trying to think of subtle ways to insult me in your responses. I can sleep at night though knowing I don't support fascism.

It was you who threw about the insults. I'm sure none of the above nations (proxy powers) I mentioned are "fascistic" in any way, shape or form. Not at all, in the slightest. Russia? China? Iran? Lebanon? Pakistan? Just for starters . . .

JustinDee

Jonny7 wrote: »

Who's murdering who in what desert?

Oh, the whole region is just a desert as can be seen in Lawrence of Arabia, Jewel in the Nile and Jesus Christ Superstar.

fkface

Monty Burnz wrote: »

To be fair, I think I had 'Zionism' well covered by citing Israel.

Only because you don't understand anything about Zionism.

Monty Burnz

fkface wrote: »

Only because you don't understand anything about Zionism.

*sigh*

Yes, you know everything and we all know nothing. :rolleyes:

chainsawman

I think Zionism controlled the world bank and USA, I cant say anything more, Mossad/CIA might be at my door by tmw...:D

fkface

Rubbish. For proxy powers in the region and the other regions I mentioned, I've taken most of the active powers into consideration in addition to US, France, UK etc. Examples being Syria in Lebanon. Iran in Syria and Lebanon. Russia with Iran, Syria, Lebanon and in cahoots with support from China which has existed since the early 60s there, following on from the Soviets digging heels in.

No it's not rubbish, you've already identified Iran as supporting Hezbollah for example, now have the decency to identify NATO countries and Israel when they support militant groups and mercenaries.

Let's not forget Hezbollah wouldn't even exist if it wasn't for Israel trying to grab more land for themselves...but people like you excuse that because God chose them over everyone else, right?

You're assuming that all Israelis are pro-Zionist religious zealots. This again is rubbish, as assuming Jews generally think like that too.

I never said all Israelis are pro-zionists but I have said that our conflicts with the Islamic world are mainly due to Oil and this interpretation of what "freedom" is.

I don't believe in spreading Zionist "freedom" to the Islamic world and countries that have vast amounts of oil or other resources.

The best thing western countries could have done was to just simply leave those countries alone and let them resolve problems by themselves.

Stop selling them weapons, stop stripping their countries of resources, stop trying to force "loans" using Zionist controlled financial institutions.

The US/UK destroy the first Iranian democratically elected government in 1954 and replaced it with a King who oppressed the people there using US made military hardware for 25 years...

And what is "freedom" to people like yourself? Does it consist of consumerism, materialistic and hedonistic lifestyle? The "freedom" to choose between coca cola or pepsi, mcdonalds or burger king... this is "freedom" ?

Did you ever stop to think maybe those people don't want your fking "freedom" ?

Russia? China? Iran? Lebanon? Pakistan? Just for starters . . .

Yes, of course because those are the only countries on the planet oppressive to their own people according to your expert sources and I can tell already where you get your daily news from.

Tell me this.

All those countries you think are the "bad guys" how many countries have they invaded in say the last 10-20 years?

List them off seeing as they're the real threat to world peace ...:rolleyes:

studiorat

fkface wrote: »

Only because you don't understand anything about Zionism.

Zionists hiding in the bushes eh?



Zionists, the US, the UK, who the isn't part of this delusional conspiracy?
I can't believe this car crash of a thread is still going on.
It reads like someone having a nervous breakdown online.

fkface

Monty Burnz wrote: »

*sigh*

Yes, you know everything and we all know nothing. :rolleyes:

No, you know everything because you've a Phd in economics and travelled all over the world . . . we should all revere you and your superb grasp of how the world works.

studiorat

fkface wrote: »

No, you know everything because you've a Phd in economics and travelled all over the world . . . we should all revere you and your superb grasp of how the world works.

Good man Monty! All hail our new lizard overlord!

fkface

studiorat, I'm tired of your ad-hominem attacks, you're on my ignore list.
brimal must only have a mouse on the desk or maybe the keyboard is broke? just as well really.

studiorat

definitely loosing the plot!

Monty Burnz

studiorat wrote: »

Good man Monty! All hail our new lizard overlord!

I couldn't have done it without my friends and underlings.

brimal

fkface wrote: »

studiorat, I'm tired of your ad-hominem attacks, you're on my ignore list.
brimal must only have a mouse on the desk or maybe the keyboard is broke? just as well really.

I have no idea what you are talking about. I replied to you once already in this thread. This will be my last.

Seriously dude, have a look at what you are posting in this thread and others. Cop yourself on.

Your posting style is personal, immature, aggressive, unable to engage with people, delusional, etc. You are on a one way ticket to a permaban, like many other conspiracy theorists before you.

fkface

Monty, you're on ignore list too.

BTW, is that XBox 360 broke or did you sell it?

Don't let it collect dust, I know you're probably loaded ..being Economics expert and all that but you should get some fun in your life too.

Life is short.

fkface

brimal wrote: »

I have no idea what you are talking about. I replied to you once already in this thread. This will be my last.

Seriously dude, have a look at what you are posting in this thread and others. Cop yourself on.

Your posting style is personal, immature, aggressive, unable to engage with people, delusional, etc. You are on a one way ticket to a permaban, like many other conspiracy theorists before you.

Listen keyboard warrior, the only delusional people here include yourself and anyone that believes everything the mainstream news tells them.

Have these organisations not lost any credibility for you over the last 10 years? It would seem they haven't for you at least.

You're on ignore list also, I think I'll add all trolls to that list today.

Monty Burnz

I just remembered a funny video I saw a while back.

humanji

fkface banned for 3 days. And everyone else is on very thin ice. If someone is annoying you, ignore them.

JustinDee

humanji wrote: »

fkface banned for 3 days. And everyone else is on very thin ice. If someone is annoying you, ignore them.

Shall do. Deleting my reply to them.