How much will ya do for cash?

Voodoomelon

Chatting about this line earlier on and came up with some mixed opinions.

I run a small business and regularly ring up large totals on the register, present the total to the customer, to be met with the ol' chestnut that is, "what'll ya do for cash?".

What is the person thinking when they're asking this?

Is it:

a) they're doing me a favour by giving me cash wish is presumably cheaper for me to lodge with the bank (which it isn't, if the total was €500, it costs eight times more to lodge cash than Laser).

b) they assume you'll give them a good deal because they assume all businesses who deal in cash don't put it through the books and by even agreeing to a better deal you are admitting you are a shady bastard.

c) figure of speech and they just want a discount (which we usually accomodate)

My answer is always politely with a smile "makes no difference to me how you pay", which it doesn't (unless its a huge amount and they're paying with credit card).

Thoughts? Personally I wouldn't have the nerve to walk into a shop and present that line.

Mr.Crinklewood

Tried this in the Ulsterbank today, they said they would do anything that I wanted them to do ( as long as it did not involve computers ).

mikom

Voodoomelon wrote: »

I run a small business and regularly ring up large totals on the register, present the total to the customer, to be met with the ol' chestnut that is, "what'll ya do for cash?".

Not a country music fan I take it......

Scioch

Mixture of em all probably. Its basically just saying "Can ya knock a bit off ?" Assuming you wont be taking the hit on the full amount you knock off dealing in cash.

Nothingbetter2d

Voodoomelon wrote: »

Chatting about this line earlier on and came up with some mixed opinions.

I run a small business and regularly ring up large totals on the register, present the total to the customer, to be met with the ol' chestnut that is, "what'll ya do for cash?".

What is the person thinking when they're asking this?

Is it:

a) they're doing me a favour by giving me cash wish is presumably cheaper for me to lodge with the bank (which it isn't, if the total was €500, it costs eight times more to lodge cash than Laser).

b) they assume you'll give them a good deal because they assume all businesses who deal in cash don't put it through the books and by even agreeing to a better deal you are admitting you are a shady bastard.

c) figure of speech and they just want a discount (which we usually accomodate)

My answer is always politely with a smile "makes no difference to me how you pay", which it doesn't (unless its a huge amount and they're paying with credit card).

Thoughts? Personally I wouldn't have the nerve to walk into a shop and present that line.

they are hoping you wont charge vat

Voodoomelon

Nothingbetter2d wrote: »

they are hoping you wont charge vat

Really? On a business to customer over the counter transaction?

Degag

Most of the time it's juat an expression looking for a discount.

paddy147

That phrase is only going to get more commmon,thanks to Enda Kenny and his bunch of merry gombeens (very polite verson of what I really want to post) running this country into the ground.

100,000 jobs ME HOLE.

newmug

Voodoomelon wrote: »

Really? On a business to customer over the counter transaction?

What do you mean "really"???? VAT is a government imposed tax, which, although legal, is morally wrong, which pays for Enda Kenny's make-up and Leo Varadker's merc and Angela Merkel's interest. Do you think you should be paying it? I wouldn't mind if it was put to good use, but as long as there is a single homeless person on the streets, or a single special needs child not getting what they need, I protest to the payment of my hard earned money towards any government luxuries. In fact, far from making a business look like "shady ba$tards", it makes you look like sound people who I'd gladly do business with again.

RobbingBandit

Whom ever pays for Ednas makeup lets hope they continue as this is what he really looks like without it.

Sinfonia

I guess in some businesses, a transaction can't be discounted when paying by card because it's all hard-wired together, whereas technically with a cash sale you could take in less (even though your own books wouldn't balance then).
More likely it's just that most people haven't worked in retail and have no clue how it works.

Shryke

In my own retail experience people just don't know how a business works.
Some lads seem to think you just made up the price that morning for the craic. They tended to be Celtic tiger types with their wads of fifties who more than likely used said method to charge people themselves.

frozenfrozen

I was expecting this thread to be similar to the 'should I get into porn' thread.

I was not disappointed.

RHarrow

Some people genuinely believe that them paying cash will amount to you not putting it through the books and thus not paying VAT on it yourself, others just use it as a way of asking for a discount.

It most often really just amounts to "look, I have cash on me and I'm ready to spend it here but I would like to leave here believing I got something that other people didn't, make me feel special" so it's not really an issue to humour them.

BillyMitchel

Voodoomelon wrote: »

Chatting about this line earlier on and came up with some mixed opinions.

I run a small business and regularly ring up large totals on the register, present the total to the customer, to be met with the ol' chestnut that is, "what'll ya do for cash?".

What is the person thinking when they're asking this?

Is it:

a) they're doing me a favour by giving me cash wish is presumably cheaper for me to lodge with the bank (which it isn't, if the total was €500, it costs eight times more to lodge cash than Laser).

b) they assume you'll give them a good deal because they assume all businesses who deal in cash don't put it through the books and by even agreeing to a better deal you are admitting you are a shady bastard.

c) figure of speech and they just want a discount (which we usually accomodate)

My answer is always politely with a smile "makes no difference to me how you pay", which it doesn't (unless its a huge amount and they're paying with credit card).

Thoughts? Personally I wouldn't have the nerve to walk into a shop and present that line.

Cash is king and people assume that if you pay cash that a bit might be knocked off. I don't think it's much to do with VAT or taxes and most wouldn't know what the business has to pay to lodge it in.

It's what my drug dealer tells me anyway.

paddy147

Mick Wallace would be a great person to give a "1st hand experience" view of this matter.

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy

Voodoomelon wrote: »

Chatting about this line earlier on and came up with some mixed opinions.

I run a small business and regularly ring up large totals on the register, present the total to the customer, to be met with the ol' chestnut that is, "what'll ya do for cash?".

What is the person thinking when they're asking this?

Is it:

a) they're doing me a favour by giving me cash wish is presumably cheaper for me to lodge with the bank (which it isn't, if the total was €500, it costs eight times more to lodge cash than Laser).

b) they assume you'll give them a good deal because they assume all businesses who deal in cash don't put it through the books and by even agreeing to a better deal you are admitting you are a shady bastard.

c) figure of speech and they just want a discount (which we usually accomodate)

My answer is always politely with a smile "makes no difference to me how you pay", which it doesn't (unless its a huge amount and they're paying with credit card).

Thoughts? Personally I wouldn't have the nerve to walk into a shop and present that line.

Does if their looking to pay with monopoly money

Armin_Tamzarian

Voodoomelon wrote: »

Chatting about this line earlier on and came up with some mixed opinions.

I run a small business and regularly ring up large totals on the register, present the total to the customer, to be met with the ol' chestnut that is, "what'll ya do for cash?".

What is the person thinking when they're asking this?

Is it:

a) they're doing me a favour by giving me cash wish is presumably cheaper for me to lodge with the bank (which it isn't, if the total was €500, it costs eight times more to lodge cash than Laser).

b) they assume you'll give them a good deal because they assume all businesses who deal in cash don't put it through the books and by even agreeing to a better deal you are admitting you are a shady bastard.

c) figure of speech and they just want a discount (which we usually accomodate)

My answer is always politely with a smile "makes no difference to me how you pay", which it doesn't (unless its a huge amount and they're paying with credit card).

Thoughts? Personally I wouldn't have the nerve to walk into a shop and present that line.

It basically implies that you are offering to do an off the books transaction.
If a person conducts a normal, straight transaction with someone they will want a receipt and may want to claim the VAT back at a later stage.
"Doing it for cash" means they will pay in cash and don't have any need to make the transaction official.
It was/is fairly common in the construction industry and people could expect to get a reasonable discount for making such a deal.

LH Pathe

Well personally I wouldn't get out of bed for anything less than a grand. Yes my standards are that high.. so I let my dole accumulate to over a month before I have to - but even gettin up for a grand before dinnertime is hard slog, lumme tell ya.

Jimoslimos

As my mammy used to say,

'You don't ask, you don't get'

I don't see the problem with asking for a discount, end of the day consumer is king. Wouldn't try it in Tesco though!

paddy147

Jimoslimos wrote: »

As my mammy used to say,

'You don't ask, you don't get'

I don't see the problem with asking for a discount, end of the day consumer is king. Wouldn't try it in Tesco though!

And then ask for some more.;):D

Haggle hard and haggle fast.

EGAR

Jimoslimos wrote: »

As my mammy used to say,

'You don't ask, you don't get'

I don't see the problem with asking for a discount, end of the day consumer is king. Wouldn't try it in Tesco though!

Did it today and haggled over the price of 4 tyres for my car. Never did it before and it lo and behold it worked with a bit of persuasion.

Very happy .

nimrod86

EGAR wrote: »

Did it today and haggled over the price of 4 tyres for my car. Never did it before and it lo and behold it worked with a bit of persuasion.

Very happy .

The whole country needs to start doing this!

No point talking about how much were being ripped off if the next day we'll walk back out and buy the same things again!

You got to show the Government and big companies, that if they want to screw us around, we can go elsewhere, they got to earn our business!

nim

Voodoomelon

EGAR wrote: »

Did it today and haggled over the price of 4 tyres for my car. Never did it before and it lo and behold it worked with a bit of persuasion.

Very happy .

No problem with haggling (except the customers who want to haggle over €19.99), just wondering what everyone thought about the whole cash thing.

I often ask for small bit off on high value purchases, you rarely walk away disappointed.

newmug

Voodoomelon wrote: »

No problem with haggling (except the customers who want to haggle over €19.99), just wondering what everyone thought about the whole cash thing.

I often ask for small bit off on high value purchases, you rarely walk away disappointed.

Changing your tune a bit there:rolleyes:

paddy147

Voodoomelon wrote: »

No problem with haggling (except the customers who want to haggle over €19.99), just wondering what everyone thought about the whole cash thing.

I often ask for small bit off on high value purchases, you rarely walk away disappointed.

I got 10 cents of my 2 litre of milk this morning.

Asked the shop keeper would he do the milk for 1 euro 30 and he says......."yeah sure go on".

See.....It pays to ask and haggle.

Result indeed.:D

biko

Shouldn't you be asking this in "I run a business" forum?
I always pay cash on everything in shops so never ask that question.

mikemac1

Voodoomelon wrote: »

I run a small business and regularly ring up large totals on the register, present the total to the customer, to be met with the ol' chestnut that is, "what'll ya do for cash?".

What is the person thinking when they're asking this?

You haggled with your landlord, your accountant fees, your suppliers, your rates and pretty much everything you pay

Your customers want to haggle too

You clearly don't run a farm supplies shop as you'd be haggling from opening to close every day :cool:

ejmaztec

Voodoomelon wrote: »

Chatting about this line earlier on and came up with some mixed opinions.

I run a small business and regularly ring up large totals on the register, present the total to the customer, to be met with the ol' chestnut that is, "what'll ya do for cash?".

What is the person thinking when they're asking this?

Is it:

a) they're doing me a favour by giving me cash wish is presumably cheaper for me to lodge with the bank (which it isn't, if the total was €500, it costs eight times more to lodge cash than Laser).

b) they assume you'll give them a good deal because they assume all businesses who deal in cash don't put it through the books and by even agreeing to a better deal you are admitting you are a shady bastard.

c) figure of speech and they just want a discount (which we usually accomodate)

My answer is always politely with a smile "makes no difference to me how you pay", which it doesn't (unless its a huge amount and they're paying with credit card).

Thoughts? Personally I wouldn't have the nerve to walk into a shop and present that line.

There are no bank charges when you lodge the cash to your "Rainy-day Mattress Account".

..of course, there may be different "charges" when the Revenue Commissioners find out later on.:(

Voodoomelon

newmug wrote: »

Changing your tune a bit there:rolleyes:

Re-read the first post.

girl in the striped socks

Voodoomelon wrote: »

Nothingbetter2d wrote: »

they are hoping you wont charge vat

Really? On a business to customer over the counter transaction?

Do you mind me asking how long you are in business?
This shouldnt come as a shock to you, people regularly offer cash in the hope of getting the vat knocked off. What a lot of people don't realise is that it's getting more difficult to do business like that.

Voodoomelon

5 years. Its a retail store so it baffles me why people would expect this, unless they're a bit shady themselves.

girl in the striped socks

Voodoomelon wrote: »

5 years. Its a retail store so it baffles me why people would expect this, unless they're a bit shady themselves.

Ah sure that explains it so, everyone knows the mark up in retail is huge so they have to look for a cash deal

Pottler

whole concept is dead and buried in my business, I pay for everything electronically/card and have to get a VAT receipt and I get paid electronically, usually from abroad with all Vat etc included. I never see cash from one end of the year to the other. I miss cash. There's somthing nicer about getting handed a wad of crinkly fifties - numbers going up and down on a screen doesn't have the same appeal.

weemcd

I wouldn't like myself if I haggled. If I want an item or a service, I buy it for the price listed, or I realise that nobody is making me buy the fúckin thing in the first place, so I can take it or leave it.


I'm fookin mad that way like.

DELTATIP

Retailors - In my humble opinion

Im coming to a store near you with my readies i will be asking for a price reduction in all my transactions I do

It s not because of some celtic tiger bull or some feel good buxxxxit
It s because i need to save my hard earned cash for me /family benefit

I do it today as Ive alway done ...............

Pottler

weemcd wrote: »

I wouldn't like myself if I haggled. If I want an item or a service, I buy it for the price listed, or I realise that nobody is making me buy the fúckin thing in the first place, so I can take it or leave it.


I'm fookin mad that way like.

^I'm the same, I ask a person for a price, they give me a price. I then either decide to pay it or not. I don't haggle. I also never argue with a persons price - if thats their price so be it, I don't beat them down. I either agree to pay it or say thanks but no.
On the flip side, I expect the same in return. Wanna haggle? Feck off and find a souk. My price is my price. If someone can drop their price it means they were riding you in the first place anyway. I also learnt early on if someone does a job for me and then overcharges me, I smile and pay it in full. I then never deal with them again. But I never whinge and I never try and beat them down. It's a long game, but eventually, people cop on and start dealing with you straight up, ie no overcharging and no arguing about my prices.

Salt001

My husband is a dab hand at asking that question but in his case it is simply a means of asking for a discount.
He totally believes in haggling ( in a nice way ) and often does get a reduction.
I mean he wouldn't do it in Tescos or Sainbury's ,it all depends on the type of shop.
We go to a lot of farmer markets and Antique fairs and its nearly expected there.