new fertilizer spreader

grumpyfarmer

Hi all. i'm considering changing my fertilizer spreader, have a rauch zsa 600 for the last 20 odd years and its starting to get shook. now i will probably go for a rauch again or a bogbelle seeing as my 2 closest dealers are those and i had resigned myself to another half ton machine cos my tractors are on the small side until i started to think about the bogies. does anyone have one or experience of one or what's the pros and cons? Id be thinking of a 1 ton spreader then or are the bogies really only for the big tillage type 2 & 3 ton spreader?
thanks in advance..

Bones08

Bogballe are the best when it comes to % of acuracy, slightly dear but sure worth the money when you are not wasting any manure, Bogeys are expensive enough, I think if you were going down that road you would be better to get a 2 ton, probably only justifiable if your lands are bit away from the yard tho.

grumpyfarmer

Bones08 wrote: »

Bogballe are the best when it comes to % of acuracy, slightly dear but sure worth the money when you are not wasting any manure, Bogeys are expensive enough, I think if you were going down that road you would be better to get a 2 ton, probably only justifiable if your lands are bit away from the yard tho.

Yea i'm thinking the same, 1/2 ton mounted is good enough. Luckily all our land is in one block.. but leaning towards sticking with rauch tho i think it's stronger looking..

Bones08

Dont judge a book by its cover lol, happy shopping

Good loser

grumpyfarmer wrote: »

Yea i'm thinking the same, 1/2 ton mounted is good enough. Luckily all our land is in one block.. but leaning towards sticking with rauch tho i think it's stronger looking..

Did you get that 1/2 tonne Rauch? What is the price new incl VAT, please?

jayc12

If this is any good to you I got a price for a 1 tonne rauch spreader with cover two weeks ago for €5500. The cover is €500 for it

hillclimber

Have had both a rauch and a bogballe, paint finish is better on the rauch.

red bull

I have an Abbey 700kg wagtail for ten years very happy with it

grumpyfarmer

Good loser wrote: »

Did you get that 1/2 tonne Rauch? What is the price new incl VAT, please?

Ended up not changing after the year was a bit expensive on everything else. hopefully this coming year..

fastrac

I got a Quote of 5500 for a 1 tonne Amazone

Viewtodiefor

fastrac wrote: »

I got a Quote of 5500 for a 1 tonne Amazone

What model is that fastrac?

fastrac

ZAM 1402

grumpyfarmer

Back on the hunt again.. quoted€4150 for a 14 cut, hyd shut off, rauch, mds 17.1m..

whelan1

bought a 1 tonne bogballe on dd for 600 euro , second hand,got a spare set of fins with it, will do me for a while

case885

http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/fertiliserspreaders/4993719

1chippy

Like whelan i bought second hand. a rauch 800. you dont have to fill it if you have a small tractor. the 500 is ok with a lot of the manures but some manures seem to bulk slightly more and its good to have that extra bit of space if your dropping in 1/2 ton bags.

stanflt

bought a new sulky dpx18

iverjohnston

Have a Kuhn/Rauch ZSB 900, bought it second-hand about 10 years ago. It was €1000, and had came from a farm sale in UK. This year I had to rebuild the back part of the frame, and put a new set of fins on the disks. Paint work still good, and very happy with accuracy. Its more accurate than my driving probably. A few nice Kuhn and Rauch on Done Deal at the moment. Unless you were doing thousands of acres, would a new one be justified?
Neighbour bought a new Sulky, and it looks lightly enough built.

Timmaay

I got lucky and picked up a 750kg vicon wagtail last week on DD for 450quid, in good (but not perfect) condition. We've never have had anything like a bogbolle or ranch, what makes them so much better that a price tag of 4grand or so is justifiable?

moy83

How is the tractor for lifting on the front when that spreader is full Stan ? Well wear by the way

nashmach

Timmaay wrote: »

I got lucky and picked up a 750kg vicon wagtail last week on DD for 450quid, in good (but not perfect) condition. We've never have had anything like a bogbolle or ranch, what makes them so much better that a price tag of 4grand or so is justifiable?

Jammy dodger!

iverjohnston

[QUOTE=. We've never have had anything like a bogbolle or ranch, what makes them so much better that a price tag of 4grand or so is justifiable?[/QUOTE]


Don't think any spreader is worth 4 or 5 thousand when you only have a hundred or so acres. The rauch we have replaced a Lely single disk yoke, which seemed to put more fertilizer up into the tractor than onto the field, and had a hoor of a shut off system.(you had to pull a rope, which ran around 2 pulleys and worked against a spring which was like a huge safety pin) The Rauch was a revelation compared to that thing, hydraulic shut off and all the spinners and shields are stainless steel. spreads really wide as well, if you can drive accurately. I have a piece of white insulation tape stuck on the glass of the tractor door which lines up on the previous wheel tracks when I am the right distance away.

f140

I think the spinner and the slurry tank are the two most important implements to have right on the farm. they do the most work on my farm. spinner more or less stays on one tractor and slurry tank on the other and everything else goes on the third one. make sure to always wash out your spinner and spray oil on it and in 20 years time it will still look like new. Kuhn 1 tonne here aswell

td5man

nashmach wrote: »

Jammy dodger!

Saw a nice 1tonne vicon sold for €450, have one here 20+ years needed a set of bearings this year first time that anything went wrong with it.

whelan1

neighbour bought a brand new rauch spreader last year, cost over 5k, he has tillage but i cant see how he could justify the cost, we got a lend of it a few weeks ago and had to use his tractor also as the electronic controls where set up for his tractor.... more of a luxury than a neccessity imo

freedominacup

whelan1 wrote: »

neighbour bought a brand new rauch spreader last year, cost over 5k, he has tillage but i cant see how he could justify the cost, we got a lend of it a few weeks ago and had to use his tractor also as the electronic controls where set up for his tractor.... more of a luxury than a neccessity imo

I ordered a half load of fert yesterday came to 4k that's how he can justify the cost. That stuff is getting far too dear to have it being applied incorrectly. Any guy doing a reasonable acreage of tillage would have an enormous fert bill. Slight increases in the accuracy of application of fert would pay for that machine very quickly.

munkus

f140 wrote: »

I think the spinner and the slurry tank are the two most important implements to have right on the farm. they do the most work on my farm. spinner more or less stays on one tractor and slurry tank on the other and everything else goes on the third one. make sure to always wash out your spinner and spray oil on it and in 20 years time it will still look like new. Kuhn 1 tonne here aswell

Sounds like you have too many tractors

grumpyfarmer

Why im looking a new one is, we've had our current rauch for 25 years and to be honest the metal work is still in better shape than second hand ones I've seen that are less than half that age which says to me a lot of people don't wash or oil their spreaders and i don't fancy buying trouble. the problem with ours is wear in the gear box on the cogs and in the shafts which is only to be expected after that many years of spreading 120-150 ton of fertilizer a year.
ye might think im mad but hey it helps to be a little bit..

jomoloney

grumpyfarmer wrote: »

Why im looking a new one is, we've had our current rauch for 25 years and to be honest the metal work is still in better shape than second hand ones I've seen that are less than half that age which says to me a lot of people don't wash or oil their spreaders and i don't fancy buying trouble. the problem with ours is wear in the gear box on the cogs and in the shafts which is only to be expected after that many years of spreading 120-150 ton of fertilizer a year.
ye might think im mad but hey it helps to be a little bit..

I'm on the lookout for a 1 ton one myself, is there a fellow up ur country that imports from Uk, (north tipp, / offaly ) or maybe he's further up.

waste of time trying tim or abbey, quoting telephone nos.

iverjohnston

Hi jomoloney, here is one on ebay.....

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KUHN-MDS-921-TWIN-DISC-FERTILISER-SPINNER-/330918894551?pt=UK_BOI_FarmingEquipment_RL&hash=item4d0c4d9bd7

grumpyfarmer

jomoloney wrote: »

I'm on the lookout for a 1 ton one myself, is there a fellow up ur country that imports from Uk, (north tipp, / offaly ) or maybe he's further up.

waste of time trying tim or abbey, quoting telephone nos.

Not that i know of off the top of my head. but that's not saying that there isn't. in borrisokane myself so nenagh is my closest port of call..