ACTA was rejected.

wobbles-grogan

Good goin sherlock...

The European Parliament has voted to reject the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (Acta).

The proposed agreement sought to curb piracy, but internet campaigners said it posed a threat to online freedoms.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18704192

Edit:

More here:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57466330-38/acta-dealt-major-blow-as-europe-rejects-the-controversial-treaty/?part=rss&subj=news&tag=title

mikom

Put that in your pipe and smoke it Sherlock.

Fishooks12

Freedom win








<goes to torrent site to steal movies>

chin_grin

Fishooks12 wrote: »

Freedom win








<goes to torrent site to steal movies>

Did you read the bill? :pac:

(Has nothing to do with piracy...well a little...thought it was primarily for the spread of copyrighted material!? I "skimmed" it....)

Hande hoche!

Common sense prevails.

christmas2012

good to hear - there is too much over regulation

Nerdkiller1991

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WGHeQw49ws

Shryke

One small victory I guess.

wobbles-grogan

Read more here:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57466330-38/acta-dealt-major-blow-as-europe-rejects-the-controversial-treaty/?part=rss&subj=news&tag=title

squod

Sherlock if you're listening..........


Na-na na na-na

Pedant

I'm starting to like the EU again.

Paparazzo

Does this mean we we're getting a new Torrents forum on boards?

Haelium

So maybe Lisbon wasn't such a bad idea after all.

listermint

Sherlock will never see this news because i dont think he understands the internet.

I think he was trying to get it setup with his CD from Ireland Online Live.

Shryke

squod wrote: »

Sherlock if you're listening..........


Na-na na na-na

You're missing a "na". Sorry..

El Guapo!

Shryke wrote: »

You're missing a "na". Sorry..

Counting fail.

chin_grin

Shryke wrote: »

You're missing a "na". Sorry..

Dean09 wrote: »

Counting fail.

Na na na nana HEY! Nana nana!

Shryke

Na-na na-na NA-na as far as I'm concerned.

Haelium

For anybody interested, here's how our representatives voted.

For:
Liam Aylward
Nessa Childers
Proinsias De Rossa
Pat Gallagher
Marian Harkin
Alan Kelly

Against:
Jim Higgins
Sean Kelly
Mairead McGuinness
Gay Mitchell

Absent:
Joe Higgins

Abstained:
Brain Crowley


Source: http://www.votewatch.eu/cx_vote_details.php?id_act=1189&euro_vot_valoare=&euro_vot_rol_euro_grup=&euro_vot_rol_euro_tara=&vers=2&order_by=euro_parlamentar_nume&order=ASC&last_order_by=euro_parlamentar_nume&limit=0&offset=0&nextorder=ASC&euro_tara_id=18&euro_grup_id=&euro_vot_valoare=&euro_vot_rol_euro_grup=

Archeron

Shryke wrote: »

Na-na na-na NA-na

BATMAN!!

Sykk

Source

The Parliament voted by 478 to 39 to reject the treaty, which aimed to prevent copyright infringement in both digital and real objects but became mired in controversy after secret negotiations. There were, however, 165 abstentions.
Jim Killock, of the Open Rights Group, hailed the move as "a tremendous victory for the movement, for democracy and for every European citizen that has demanded that their rights be respected. ACTA must be abandoned. The Commission must drop its calls to try again."
Earlier, a 19-12 Committee vote against the treaty had effectively ensured the full European Parliament would vote it down. Rapporteur David Martin MEP had previously told the Telegraph that ACTA was 'dead in the water'.
ACTA aims to protect the intellectual property in both digital and physical goods, and has proved divisive because it was negotiated largely in secret and had originally proposed criminal sanctions for those who used the internet to break copyright. It would tighten up the enforcement and definition of copyright theft, which is particularly controversial for web users who routinely share digital versions of music, films and software.
At one point in its negotiation, rumours had suggested that ACTA could mean iPods were examined at international borders for pirated music, although this suggestion was rejected by those involved in the process as only a very preliminary proposal.

Although ACTA could theoretically come into force because some nations have signed it independently, without global agreement the treaty would effectively become irrelevant.

Members of the Polish parliament wore 'Anonymous' masks to protest against the ACTA bill..

It seems some politicians actually listen to the people that voted them into power. No such luck here, eh? Haha, I'd love to see the look on Sherlocks face, the little rat.

FatherLen

yaaaaay

grindle

Sykk wrote: »

I'd love to see the look on Sherlocks face, the little rat.

Ah, he's not that b...

I mean, he's got somethi...

Nah, nothing.

He's just a gormless prick.

af_thefragile

Cool, now bring back megavideo!!

Chucken

So, how many have emailed Sherlock to let him know?..Just in case he has'nt been online

I'm sure he'd love a few things to read when he logs in.

danniemcq

listermint wrote: »

Sherlock will never see this news because i dont think he understands the internet.

I think he was trying to get it setup with his CD from Ireland Online Live.

shouting into the mouse

Paparazzo

Just re-followed him on twitter to see his response, he hasn't tweeted in 5 days.
He's still using the smugest shít eating grin profile picture though. I feel ill just looking at it.

Chucken

Paparazzo wrote: »

Just re-followed him on twitter to see his response, he hasn't tweeted in 5 days.
He's still using the smugest shít eating grin profile picture though. I feel ill just looking at it.

Ya,I just checked his Twitter too. Is he in hiding?

Seachmall

478 to 39!

God damn, that's a fine margin of win.

Corkfeen

Seachmall wrote: »

478 to 39!

God damn, that's a fine margin of win.

Six of our ministers voted in favour of it which I find rather shocking...

danniemcq

Corkfeen wrote: »

Six of our ministers voted in favour of it which I find rather shocking...

is it wrong that i'm not?

At this stage i'm used to idiotic choices made by morons

Rheo

Seachmall wrote: »

478 to 39!

God damn, that's a fine margin of win.

Yup. Concentrated win.

MissKK

Haelium wrote: »

For anybody interested, here's how our representatives voted.

For:
Liam Aylward
Nessa Childers
Proinsias De Rossa
Pat Gallagher
Marian Harkin
Alan Kelly

Against:
Jim Higgins
Sean Kelly
Mairead McGuinness
Gay Mitchell

Absent:
Joe Higgins

Abstained:
Brain Crowley


Source: http://www.votewatch.eu/cx_vote_details.php?id_act=1189&euro_vot_valoare=&euro_vot_rol_euro_grup=&euro_vot_rol_euro_tara=&vers=2&order_by=euro_parlamentar_nume&order=ASC&last_order_by=euro_parlamentar_nume&limit=0&offset=0&nextorder=ASC&euro_tara_id=18&euro_grup_id=&euro_vot_valoare=&euro_vot_rol_euro_grup=[/QUOTE]

Well this can't be right as Joe Higgins, Proinsias De Rossa and Alan Kelly are no longer MEPs! This must be an old vote?! As far as I know only the Fine Gael MEPs voted in favour of ACTA.

Tombi!

I thought the Irish one was SOPA and the world-wide one (or at least the EU) one was ACTA? So we still have SOPA to deal with?

Chucken

MissKK wrote: »

Haelium wrote: »

Source: http://www.votewatch.eu/cx_vote_details.php?id_act=1189&euro_vot_valoare=&euro_vot_rol_euro_grup=&euro_vot_rol_euro_tara=&vers=2&order_by=euro_parlamentar_nume&order=ASC&last_order_by=euro_parlamentar_nume&limit=0&offset=0&nextorder=ASC&euro_tara_id=18&euro_grup_id=&euro_vot_valoare=&euro_vot_rol_euro_grup=[/QUOTE]

Well this can't be right as Joe Higgins, Proinsias De Rossa and Alan Kelly are no longer MEPs! This must be an old vote?! As far as I know only the Fine Gael MEPs voted in favour of ACTA.

You're right! Date of vote: 24.11.2010

Seachmall

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

I thought the Irish one was SOPA and the world-wide one (or at least the EU) one was ACTA? So we still have SOPA to deal with?

"Irish SOPA" passed and is currently legislation.

ACTA, a European copyright protection initiative, was rejected today.

Tombi!

Seachmall wrote: »

"Irish SOPA" passed and is currently legislation.

ACTA, a European copyright protection initiative, was rejected today.

Alright so the "Irish SOPA" is active and the EU ACTA was shot down?

Maybe I'm missing a lot but does it even matter to Ireland what happened with ACTA since we already have SOPA?

Stiffler2

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

Alright so the "Irish SOPA" is active and the EU ACTA was shot down?

Maybe I'm missing a lot but does it even matter to Ireland what happened with ACTA since we already have SOPA?

Don't worry about it boss, sure the senior gardaí were all let go, they closed about 30-40% of their stations and closed the templemore gardaí training for the next 3 -4 years.

What this means it there is no police force present in Ireland anymore so you can literraly get away with murder

+ if you do get caught you'll be out within minutes thnx to our justice system so all is good

Seachmall

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

Maybe I'm missing a lot but does it even matter to Ireland what happened with ACTA since we already have SOPA?

Absolutely, they're two different pieces of legislation that deal with separate, although connected, issues. ACTA is far broader than "Irish SOPA" and being an EU initiative it would have had a much further reach (it also deals with much more than just online piracy).

Biggins

Back to posting a full article then?

hardCopy

Biggins wrote: »

Back to posting a full article then?

Ask Mr. Sherlock

Dangerous Man

Where's The Rat? Why isn't he giving some sort of Rat reaction to this?

Paz-CCFC

Biggins wrote: »

Back to posting a full article then?

I don't see why only parts of articles could be posted in the first place. Surely, as long as you link to the author's original piece, then there's no copyright issue?

My own reading of the SI is that not much really changes. It just discusses about how the copyright owner can seek an injuction for a breach of the copyright, which was surely already available.

I think that ACTA (and the real SOPA, for that matter) were a lot more threatening than the SI brought in last March.

Biggins

hardCopy wrote: »

Ask Mr. Sherlock

I know what I expect that fool to say.
..Defend his position and never admit he was too quick in rushing his daftness into law - despite many heads telling him it was wrong!
A politician admitting they were wrong? Thats a rarity indeed!

By my understanding (open to be wrong/corrected), the ACTA had within it elements of the SOPA act.
So IF the ACTA is now defeated and the Irish courts take a case against someone under the SOPA act - the person accused might take their case further to the European courts and have a better chance of having an Irish charge/conviction quashed.
(Not that the Irish fools Government will admit this to the public!)

joseph brand

Paparazzo wrote: »

Just re-followed him on twitter to see his response, he hasn't tweeted in 5 days.
He's still using the smugest shít eating grin profile picture though. I feel ill just looking at it.

Nessa Childers' photo will take your mind off that snake.

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/denhaag/video/nessa_childers%20.jpg

:eek: :eek:

(She voted FOR)

Spacedog

joseph brand wrote: »

(She voted FOR)

link?

I got a mail from her saying she voted against ACTA

...ahhhh, I see reading back in the thread, the link to the site listing who voted for/against was from way back in 2010.

would like to see who voted for/against it today, nail their asses come election time.

sink

Haelium wrote: »

For anybody interested, here's how our representatives voted.

For:
Liam Aylward
Nessa Childers
Proinsias De Rossa
Pat Gallagher
Marian Harkin
Alan Kelly

Against:
Jim Higgins
Sean Kelly
Mairead McGuinness
Gay Mitchell

Absent:
Joe Higgins

Abstained:
Brain Crowley


Source: http://www.votewatch.eu/cx_vote_details.php?id_act=1189&euro_vot_valoare=&euro_vot_rol_euro_grup=&euro_vot_rol_euro_tara=&vers=2&order_by=euro_parlamentar_nume&order=ASC&last_order_by=euro_parlamentar_nume&limit=0&offset=0&nextorder=ASC&euro_tara_id=18&euro_grup_id=&euro_vot_valoare=&euro_vot_rol_euro_grup=

As has been pointed out this is the wrong vote, here is the vote that took place yesterday. All Irish representatives either voted no or abstained.

http://www.votewatch.eu/cx_vote_details.php?id_act=3055&euro_vot_valoare=&euro_vot_rol_euro_grup=&euro_vot_rol_euro_tara=&vers=2&order_by=euro_parlamentar_nume&order=ASC&last_order_by=euro_parlamentar_nume&limit=0&offset=0&nextorder=ASC&euro_tara_id=18&euro_grup_id=&euro_vot_valoare=&euro_vot_rol_euro_grup=

Seachmall

Paz-CCFC wrote: »

My own reading of the SI is that not much really changes. It just discusses about how the copyright owner can seek an injuction for a breach of the copyright, which was surely already available.

The SI made intermediaries responsible for the actions of individuals and allowed copyright holders file injunctions against that intermediary.

That means if I decided to paste the words to a copyrighted poem or code to a copyrighted software right here Boards.ie immediately becomes liable for my actions.

Previously there was a process of informing the intermediary of the infraction, or in a worst case scenario having the courts decide the liability but no more. Now the intermediary is culpable.

We had a system that worked. Now we have a system that threatens shit on everything it comes into contact with.

danniemcq

Interesting, looking at how the parties voted

AGAINST:
Liam Aylward FF
Pat The Cope FF
Nessa Childers LAB
Emer Costello LAB
Phil Prendergast LAB
Marian Harkin IND
Paul Murphy SOC

ABSTAINED
Jim Higgins FG
Sean Kelly FG
Mairead McGuinness FG
Gay Mitchell FG

DIDN'T VOTE
Brian Crowley FF

So no Labour supported it despite he who shall not be named going ahead with the "Irish Sopa" but all FGers went together and abstained.

and the guy who didn't vote has only been there for a third of the days he should be so i guess that should be expected of him now

Nothingbetter2d

listermint wrote: »

Sherlock will never see this news because i dont think he understands the internet.

I think he was trying to get it setup with his CD from Ireland Online Live.

nah thats too complicated for him.... he'll have to go to pc world to get one of their "experts....lol" to do it for him