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Young Farmers Question

  • 04-07-2012 8:44am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37


    Just wondering for young farmers have you all built your houses on your parents land or did any of you move to your wife's land to a build a house? My brother is getting married in the next six months and looks like he will be building on the wife's place which is about 5 miles away from the land here. The wife ain't into farming and her parents have a few acres at their place. We are worried how he will keep working on the land here, travelling twice a day to feed cattle and managing with cows calving, AI, etc when living 5 miles away. I'm going off to college in September hopefully and this is a worry on the parents as they getting on. Has anyone experience of managing a situation like this or having to travel every day from your house a distance of 5 to 10 miles twice a day to look after your land. Also he is a part time farmer that works during day.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,114 ✭✭✭corkcomp


    if he is a part time farmer I don't think 5 miles is a big deal to be honest. Could it be that he wants to be that far away and not be tied to the place 24 X 7, especially if your folks are still involved in running the place?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,217 ✭✭✭Viewtodiefor


    TMSHope wrote: »
    Just wondering for young farmers have you all built your houses on your parents land or did any of you move to your wife's land to a build a house? My brother is getting married in the next six months and looks like he will be building on the wife's place which is about 5 miles away from the land here. The wife ain't into farming and her parents have a few acres at their place. We are worried how he will keep working on the land here, travelling twice a day to feed cattle and managing with cows calving, AI, etc when living 5 miles away. I'm going off to college in September hopefully and this is a worry on the parents as they getting on. Has anyone experience of managing a situation like this or having to travel every day from your house a distance of 5 to 10 miles twice a day to look after your land. Also he is a part time farmer that works during day.

    I reckon he is dead right to build five miles away! Hopefully it will make him a more efficient farmer in that he will plan his day and what has to be done to get out of there in decent time with all work done. Nothing wrong it. Also gives him n herself space from the parents as (no in all cases) this can cause issues in marriage. Yes it may be a bit more awkard that living right beside the farm but 5miles is not far! All in all I'd say it will be a benefit to him rather than a hindaarence.
    Just my twopence!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 TMSHope


    "if he is a part time farmer I don't think 5 miles is a big deal to be honest. Could it be that he wants to be that far away and not be tied to the place 24 X 7, especially if your folks are still involved in running the place? "
    I think he is worried about the move not living on his land. I think he wants to be master of his own place and not living on the wife's place that her father owns land, that the land around the house will not be his own and have to travel down to his place. Her father not really into farming has a few sheep. I also think he feels gulity leaving the parents, worried how they manage alone as he helps out with work around the house alot with odd jobs on the parents house.


    "Also gives him n herself space from the parents as (no in all cases) this can cause issues in marriage"

    I am not experienced in this. What sort of issues can come up?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    5 mile is just around the corner in my opinion. Our farm lands stretch 35mile from furthest two farms with the rest in the middle. you just learn to be efficient in your travel


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 597 ✭✭✭PatQfarmer


    [QUOTE=TMSHope;


    "Also gives him n herself space from the parents as (no in all cases) this can cause issues in marriage"

    I am not experienced in this. What sort of issues can come up?[/QUOTE]

    Anything you can think of can become an issue. If he is part-time and parents still active in running farm, then he is probably wise.
    If parents wanted otherwise, did they offer him a site?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 TMSHope


    Yeah the parents offered a site, I think its that the woman that doesn't want to live in his place


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 597 ✭✭✭PatQfarmer


    TMSHope wrote: »
    Yeah the parents offered a site, I think its that the woman that doesn't want to live in his place

    Well there's the first ticking time-bomb.
    These things can work out ok, eventually, but need time and space.
    Probably a wise call to build off farm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭KCTK


    TMSHope wrote: »
    Yeah the parents offered a site, I think its that the woman that doesn't want to live in his place

    Believe me it will be better long term, I definately think you can not mix the women, there will be war!!! Its the one thing (and probably only) I am lucky having a split farm for, we are on what used to be classified the outside farm (but much larger) and parent on the "old" home farm, nearly 3 miles of a distance and believe me its better having at least that much.

    Nothing to worry about, not like old days where farmer had to be on the farm 24/7 with back door of dwelling house about 4 feet from cow house!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 TMSHope


    "Well there's the first ticking time-bomb.
    These things can work out ok, eventually, but need time and space.
    Probably a wise call to build off farm. "

    Just wondering what do mean here? Have you experienced this issue and did you build off farm. Just looking for advice. Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 597 ✭✭✭PatQfarmer


    TMSHope wrote: »
    "Well there's the first ticking time-bomb.
    These things can work out ok, eventually, but need time and space.
    Probably a wise call to build off farm. "

    Just wondering what do mean here? Have you experienced this issue and did you build off farm. Just looking for advice. Thanks

    No direct experience, thankfully, although my farm is 5km from my parents who still farm actively:rolleyes:
    I've seen loads of examples in my line of business, unfortunately, where sons partner/wife doesn't meet with "approval" of his parents or siblings. Some siblings who live away can often expect the son/daughter at home to mind parents 24/7. They forget he/she has a life and family of his/her own to lead and rear.
    Let him choose his own path. If he wants to come home in time, then it will have to be a decision taken by him and his partner.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭JohnBoy


    TMSHope wrote: »
    Just wondering what do mean here? Have you experienced this issue and did you build off farm. Just looking for advice. Thanks



    Young grasshopper as you get older you will learn than women arent always pink and fluffy and smelling of peaches.

    sometimes they dont get on with each other.

    it's generally best to keep them seperated from each other as much as possible.


    (note I have four sisters, I speak from experience :))


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,716 ✭✭✭1chippy


    A lot will depend on your sister in laws attitude. I,m engaged to a townie but she seems to understand the hours can be a bit unusual to say the least. but as she says, i started as i meant to go on. the first night when i finally did get her home i sent her packing at 7 am on a sunday morn cause i had to go working.
    We bought a house 3 miles from the home place and it works ok for now anyway. hoping to build at home over the next few years. (just about started). the only real issue i have is cows calving, but dont really mind it for the mean while anyway.
    I would recommend never to build on the home place until your 100% certain. but then i'm not overly trusting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 699 ✭✭✭okiss


    I don't think that living this distance from the farm is a problem.

    Your bother is working and doing part time farming and his wife may also be working. Some times mothers with sons living on the farm think they own this house are always there. You mother could be there giving you sister in law advice about everything or in time asking when will you have a family.
    You father could be there waiting for tea or to be fed and talking nothing but farm talk. I know cases like this and the wives are going mad as his parents are always in there homes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 TMSHope


    1chippy wrote: »
    A lot will depend on your sister in laws attitude. I,m engaged to a townie but she seems to understand the hours can be a bit unusual to say the least. but as she says, i started as i meant to go on. the first night when i finally did get her home i sent her packing at 7 am on a sunday morn cause i had to go working.
    We bought a house 3 miles from the home place and it works ok for now anyway. hoping to build at home over the next few years. (just about started). the only real issue i have is cows calving, but dont really mind it for the mean while anyway.
    I would recommend never to build on the home place until your 100% certain. but then i'm not overly trusting.

    Just wondering Chippy how do manage with the cows calving? If you think the cow is close to calving say late in the evening would you spend the night in the parents house to be near the shed in and out checking the cow.

    Also when you build on the parents land, will you be building a bit away from them on the farm and next door to them. Just going by what the guys are saying about not mixing the women


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭49801


    TMSHope wrote: »
    Just wondering Chippy how do manage with the cows calving? If you think the cow is close to calving say late in the evening would you spend the night in the parents house to be near the shed in and out checking the cow.

    Also when you build on the parents land, will you be building a bit away from them on the farm and next door to them. Just going by what the guys are saying about not mixing the women

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 TMSHope


    49801 wrote: »
    Internet camera!

    Could you give me details on this? Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭49801


    TMSHope wrote: »
    Could you give me details on this? Thanks

    You put in an Internet capable camera and it can be viewed where ever there is Internet access;)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 110 ✭✭GoodMan55985


    Maybe if your brother asks for advice, tell him he should build on his land if he wants and not happy with the move. It seems that the wife is bossy looking for her way, build on her land


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 442 ✭✭Dont be daft


    5 miles is nothing for a farmer to travel. If he's part-time he's already capable of time managing. An extra 10 mins in a car is not gonna make a huge difference.
    We had a fattening farm rented 130km from our base farm. It took 2hrs to drive up which meant to be on site at 7am you'd have to leave at 5am


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,716 ✭✭✭1chippy


    I will be building about 3-400m from the home place, (digging started). Cows calving isnt really an issue, for some reason i really like it. its like being a child again and getting one of those lucky bags. I could sit with the old man for a couple of hours chatting while waiting for a cow to calve. Sick animals are where i have the main problem. keeping a tight eye on them can be very time consuming, luckily what i might miss i have the old man to point out. I am currently pulling round calving dates and hope to eventually have one calving all around christmas and the following weeks. some say i'm crazy but it is my lean time at the other job so works for me.
    sometimes my better half can get annoyed with the amount of molly coddling i get at home. especially the two dinner routine, by right i should be pretty fat. but for now anyway i'm delighted with the feeding arrangements. I wouldnt be worrying about what your brothers doing, accept and cope with your own studies, you will find everything works out in the end.


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