Aslan on RTE Radio.. disgrace

dchris · 04-07-2012 3:42am #1

I have just had to listen through Larry Gogan tell me how great Aslan are. A band who I know for a FACT smoke heroin, and are an absolute disgrace to Irish society.

They are freely played through radio paid for by Irish licence payers. ( I doubt any of them pay a licence) yet they are promoted and celebrated by RTE

Aslan are nothing but a a band who had a hit or two in the 90s, yet our national broadcaster promotes them despite their obvious relationship with drugs.

It's a disgrace that Irish Bands of good breeding and ilk loose air time to these has been junkies.

I do not think I have been more angry than when driving home this evening hearing them pumped through my car stereo promoted by Larry Gogan this evening..

RTE radio want to slap itself around the chops. Not alone did they protect Gerry Ryan's coke habbit, which resulted in his death, but also promote bands strung out on heroin..

All I can say if, FU RTE

Jesus Wept · 04-07-2012 3:46am

Most people aren't overly concerned with people's breeding when it comes to music.
You are a rare exception.

Of all the things that piss me off about RTE, this would not be one of them. :P

CiaranC · 04-07-2012 4:08am

lol, lets ban all bands who do drugs from the airwaves

MrGeneric · 04-07-2012 4:09am

You didn't have to listen through anything though, did you? Did it not occur to you that you could simply change the radio station, or were you already too incapacitated at that stage by your impotent anger as you sat in your car, your blood boiling, your face turning a troubling shade of red, in stark contrast to your white-knuckled death-grip on the steering wheel? Implicit condoned drug usage, ON MY RTE? IN MY CAR?

dchris · 04-07-2012 4:11am

Andy Carroll wrote: »

Most people aren't overly concerned with people's breeding when it comes to music.
You are a rare exception.

Of all the things that piss me off about RTE, this would not be one of them. :P

I don't really care about ilk, nature, class, or creed, but when such a PC organisation promotes a band who do what they do, I find it hypocritical. I don't want my kids watching RTE when they play the Angeles at 6 and Alsan on radio. Typical Irish hypocrites

dchris · 04-07-2012 4:15am

MrGeneric wrote: »

You didn't have to listen through anything though, did you? Did it not occur to you that you could simply change the radio station, or were you already too incapacitated at that stage by your impotent anger as you sat in your car, your blood boiling, your face turning a troubling shade of red, in stark contrast to your white-knuckled death-grip on the steering wheel? Implicit condoned drug usage, ON MY RTE? IN MY CAR?

When I knew I was paying for it, yes.. Your point? You like having junkies being forced upon you through a service you pay for? If I pay for it, I don't want people who I wouldn't allow near my house be allowed an outlet.

People like Aslan don't deserve an outlet, let alone oxygen

MrStuffins · 04-07-2012 4:22am

If we banned every singer, band, artist, actor, presenter, person who had bad habits, done something illegal or morally questionable from the airwaves, we'd be left listening to and watching Dana all day! (Obviously not if you exclude torturing small animals).

I'd bet you'd have no problem with RTE playing "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds" by The Beatles? They did more drugs than all of the characters of every Irvine Welsh novel combined!

MrGeneric · 04-07-2012 4:25am

My point, which you seem to have missed is that you weren't forced in any sense of the word to continue listening to it.

dchris wrote: »

People like Aslan don't deserve an outlet, let alone oxygen

That's a disturbing sentiment. Is your reasoning that they are addicted to drugs, therefore they deserve to die?

dchris · 04-07-2012 4:28am

The only reason RTE play Aslan is because they are connected. They would shun others for the same reason without the same connection. Isn't it a huge irony that an organisation that plays the Angelus also plays Aslan? hypocrite much ?

MrStuffins · 04-07-2012 4:29am

dchris wrote: »

Isn't it a huge irony that an organisation that plays the Angelus also plays Aslan? hypocrite much ?

No.

And you never answered the question about The Beatles. Would you jave a problem wit The Beatles?

Who would you NOT have a problem with RTE playing?

T-K-O · 04-07-2012 4:31am

musicians taking drugs, I don't believe it

dchris · 04-07-2012 4:40am

MrStuffins wrote: »

No.

And you never answered the question about The Beatles. Would you jave a problem wit The Beatles?

Who would you NOT have a problem with RTE playing?

I don't see why I would have a problem with the beatles. They arent publicly known for smoking heroin. Unlike Alsan.. Are they? Oh maybe we should highlight for our kids how big and successful you can get being a junkie... Great for the kids

T-K-O · 04-07-2012 4:45am

Yes the Beatles were known for taking drugs. Aslan are nothing new or unusual bands have done it before Aslan and they will do it long into the future..

MrStuffins · 04-07-2012 4:46am

dchris wrote: »

I don't see why I would have a problem with the beatles. They arent publicly known for smoking heroin. Unlike Alsan.. Are they? Oh maybe we should highlight for our kids how big and successful you can get being a junkie... Great for the kids

Yes, The Beatles are publically known for doing all sorts of drugs. There was even the suggestion that Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds is a direct reference to LSD!

BTW, If you knew anything about Aslan you'd know it was drugs that made them UNsuccessful!

So, you should want MORE Aslan!!

dchris · 04-07-2012 4:48am

MrStuffins wrote: »

Yes, The Beatles are publically known for doing all sorts of drugs. There was even the suggestion that Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds is a direct reference to LSD!

BTW, If you knew anything about Aslan you'd know it was drugs that made them UNsuccessful!

So, you should want MORE Aslan!!

The beatles weren't famous at the time for drugs. that is stupid. if drugs and beatles were in the same sentence back in the 60's they's be ruined. tut tut

T-K-O · 04-07-2012 4:49am

MrStuffins wrote: »

Yes, The Beatles are publically known for doing all sorts of drugs. There was even the suggestion that Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds is a direct reference to LSD!

BTW, If you knew anything about Aslan you'd know it was drugs that made them UNsuccessful!

So, you should want MORE Aslan!!

We all live in a yellow submarine ....

lets just say the lads enjoyed a good weekend before writing that little number

MrStuffins · 04-07-2012 4:51am

dchris wrote: »

The beatles weren't famous at the time for drugs. that is stupid. if drugs and beatles were in the same sentence back in the 60's they's be ruined. tut tut

Sadly, you are misinformed! And i'm guessing that's not the first time someone has said that to you.

The Beatles were very very open about their drug use back in the 60s.

In fact, John Lennon became addicted to Heroin in 1968.

dchris · 04-07-2012 5:00am

MrStuffins wrote: »

Sadly, you are misinformed! And i'm guessing that's not the first time someone has said that to you.

The Beatles were very very open about their drug use back in the 60s.

In fact, John Lennon became addicted to Heroin in 1968.

Sadly not for the first time this evening you have gone off topic, been obtuse Get a grip on yourself. Comparing beatles with Aslan is like comparing Pink Floyd and the Corrs. You are clearly lacking in many ways.

Well done for John Lennon getting addicted to Heroin in 1968, sure we should pipe him through the public airways and let him influence our kids..

I am delighted you are happy with heroin addicts being pumped through national media for all to listen to, you clearly don't have kids as you think it be "cool " for your kids to have them as role models... God help us all

pauldla · 04-07-2012 5:02am

dchris wrote: »

The beatles weren't famous at the time for drugs. that is stupid. if drugs and beatles were in the same sentence back in the 60's they's be ruined. tut tut

MacCartney's admission that he had tried LSD? Lennon's and Harrison's busts? All happened in the 60's, making front page news.

dchris · 04-07-2012 5:03am

MrStuffins wrote: »

Sadly, you are misinformed! And i'm guessing that's not the first time someone has said that to you.

Seriously? I'd love to take you for a long walk off a short pier

MrStuffins · 04-07-2012 5:04am

dchris wrote: »

Sadly not for the first time this evening you have gone off topic, been obtuse Get a grip on yourself. Comparing beatles with Aslan is like comparing Pink Floyd and the Corrs.

Correct, sure The Beatles did a HELL of a lot more drugs than Aslan. Thanks for pointing out my error!

Well done for John Lennon getting addicted to Heroin in 1968, sure we should pipe him through the public airways and let him influence our kids..

I am delighted you are happy with heroin addicts being pumped through national media for all to listen to, you clearly don't have kids as you think it be "cool " for your kids to have them as role models... God help us all

Ring Joe Duffy tomorrow and tell him that RTE shoulnd't be playing The Beatles!

dchris · 04-07-2012 5:05am

pauldla wrote: »

MacCartney's admission that he had tried LSD? Lennon's and Harrison's busts? All happened in the 60's, making front page news.

When did McCartneys admission happen? Was it know at the time? ?? Hence, does it make a difference?

I am shocked so many of you don't mind your kinds havign junkies as idols

DEFTLEFTHAND · 04-07-2012 5:05am

I was aware of Christy Dignam having a heroin problem at one point in his life, but I was under the impression that he had cleaned himself up in recent years no?

dchris · 04-07-2012 5:06am

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

I was aware of Christy Dignam having a heroin problem at one point in his life, but I was under the impression that he had cleaned himself up in recent years no?

Nope

dchris · 04-07-2012 5:07am

MrStuffins wrote: »

Correct, sure The Beatles did a HELL of a lot more drugs than Aslan. Thanks for pointing out my error!

Ring Joe Duffy tomorrow and tell him that RTE shoulnd't be playing The Beatles!

You're not relevant. Your arguments are not relative. Catch up

MrStuffins · 04-07-2012 5:08am

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

I was aware of Christy Dignam having a heroin problem at one point in his life, but I was under the impression that he had cleaned himself up in recent years no?

Yeah, he's been clean for 8 years apparently.

MrGeneric · 04-07-2012 5:09am

dchris wrote: »

Nope

Christy Dignam... dchris.

Well played sir, well played.

MrStuffins · 04-07-2012 5:10am

dchris wrote: »

You're not relevant. Your arguments are not relative. Catch up

Yes they are.

You are unhappy at Drug Abusers being played over the airwaves.

The Beatles were all drug abusers. Yet you think it's ok for them to be played.

You're a hypocrite!

pauldla · 04-07-2012 5:10am

dchris wrote: »

When did McCartneys admission happen? Was it know at the time? ?? Hence, does it make a difference?

I am shocked so many of you don't mind your kinds havign junkies as idols

http://www.beatlesinterviews.org/db1967.0619.beatles.html

Paul McCartney was the first British pop star to publicly admit using LSD, in chatting with a reporter who had enquired about it. Paul's LSD quote appeared in Queen, a UK-based magazine at the time. The quote was also then reprinted by Life magazine in their June 16th 1967 feature, 'The New Far-Out Beatles: They're grown men now and creating extraordinary musical sounds' by Thomas Thompson.
In both articles, Paul McCartney was quoted as saying, "After I took it (LSD), it opened my eyes. We only use one-tenth of our brain. Just think what we could accomplish if we could only tap that hidden part. It would mean a whole new world."

ITV seized the opportunity to interview Paul about this public admission. The controversy would become a springboard for discussing the responsibilities of celebrities and journalists.

Life magazine and ITV both covered it.

Does it make a difference? Does it make a difference that Aslan used drugs?

Personally I don't care if they put half of Colombia up their noses, I still don't like their music. I like the Beatles, though.

laros · 04-07-2012 5:13am

A band who I know for a FACT smoke heroin, and are an absolute disgrace to Irish society.

dchris.... Where are you getting your facts from....????

dchris · 04-07-2012 5:14am

MrStuffins wrote: »

Yes they are.

You are unhappy at Drug Abusers being played over the airwaves.

The Beatles were all drug abusers. Yet you think it's ok for them to be played.

You're a hypocrite!

Not even nearly darling. When you stop trying to compare Aslan with the Beatles, you might come back to this world

dchris · 04-07-2012 5:15am

laros wrote: »

dchris.... Where are you getting your facts from....????

You'll just have to take my word am afraid

MrStuffins · 04-07-2012 5:15am

dchris wrote: »

Not even nearly darling. When you stop trying to compare Aslan with the Beatles, you might come back to this world

Both are bands and both bands contain drug addicts. What's not to compare? I'm confused, can you tell me how they are different exactly?

Also, do you let your children listen to The Beatles? When a Beatles song comes on, do you make your kids leave the room?

dchris · 04-07-2012 5:25am

I've just followed this post as got bored

MrStuffins · 04-07-2012 5:27am

dchris wrote: »

I've just followed this post as got bored

I hope you don't teach your kids English!

MrMischief · 04-07-2012 5:29am

What kids listen to RTE anyway? I think its a case of Aslan being from da narthside!!

p.s. I'm Christies doctor and i can 100% confirm he's been clean these past 8 years but you'll just have to take my word for it!

MrGeneric · 04-07-2012 5:37am

MrMischief wrote: »

What kids listen to RTE anyway? I think its a case of Aslan being from da narthside!!

p.s. I'm Christies doctor and i can 100% confirm he's been clean these past 8 years but you'll just have to take my word for it!

For something to qualify as a fact, you are required to write the word fact in capital letters either at the end of, or as part of your statement, FACT.

clappyhappy · 04-07-2012 7:53am

Who is going to make the kids aware of their drug taking, its not as if the dj's play the song and say thats "valerie by Amy Winehouse", the singer known for her addiction to drugs/alcohol, or rolling stones, or the beatles, or George Michael, or rhianna, or thousands or other singers/groups.
Your point is really pointless OP, you are lucky that is all you have to worry about.

squonk · 04-07-2012 9:37am

Not getting your contradictory argument dchris. As has been pointed out here, the Beatles were prominently notable at the time for taking drugs of various sorts. It was evident in interviews, and the music and by your argument, we should be all denying ourselves the musical excellence that was The Beatles just because they made some stupid decisions in their 20's, but you don't think so either so they're the exception to the rule, or are Aslan the exception to the rule i.e. the one band that has done drugs that should be denied airtime?

Another man who made some stupid decisions in his 20's is Christy. Aslan had a great first album. They were going places but within two years they almost imploded after they had to kick Christy out. I would strongly suggest that you read Christy's book, This Is Christy Dignam. http://www.amazon.co.uk/This-Christy-Dignam/dp/1903582563 If you have kids and are worried about them being influenced unduly by drug taking rock stars then a read of this book will open their eyes no end. It's an impressive read and he tells it like it was.

Now, the next question for you is whether RTE decided Aslan were so good that they gave Larry his own one off show dedicated entirely to Aslan. In fact, I'd say somebody did give Larry his own show, except that it was a 30 second show playing some Aslan music in the background while Larry tells us that Aslan are doing a 30th. anniversary gig in the Olympia. That's it wasn't it? You know, as long as I pay RTE and stay within broadcasting and advertising rules, I can put anything I want on at an ad break. RTE aren't personally endorsing Aslan, just playing the ad. In any event, you can throw the X band is connected so they get airplay argument around as much as you like to explain the times Aslan do make it to a show's playlist. Yeah they are but so are many other bands and that's life. that's what managers and publicists are for. That's the point of the entire bloody music industry. We don't have to like it but that doesn't change how things work. If you do want to change things, get out to support the bands you do like and stop worrying so much about their personal lives. Worry about their music and why it's not reaching the audience you think it should be reaching, and then put your energy into helping them achieve that instead of hating on established bands for various reasons.

Finally, say what you like about them, but Aslan owe their success to being a very hard working band. I'm not their biggest fan, I wouldn't rate some of their stuff at all but I have a huge amount of respect for them as a band who survived a catastrophe early on, kept going and worked their asses off to earn a living from their profession. They're great musicians and will play a small pub or The Olympia with the same level of commitment. They'll always be on my playlist and I'm sorry they're no longer on yours dcris.

Splinter · 04-07-2012 9:58am

dchris wrote: »

You'll just have to take my word am afraid

Well if this is the case and you can't prove it, this thread is locked as these are just defamation of character. If you can provide me with credible links that show you speak the truth, this thread is unlocked, until then, not a chance.

Splinter

Aslan on RTE Radio.. disgrace

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