private pilots license

Reon

im hoping to get my during this summer hopefully , but i was wondering (for those who have done flight lessons) when you go in with the trainer it might be the cross country one not sure but you have to use the radio and u have to say :example: cessna 227 or something is it just a random name they give or? sorry this might be a stupid questions but an answer would be great thanks

happy_head

Reon wrote: »

im hoping to get my during this summer hopefully , but i was wondering (for those who have done flight lessons) when you go in with the trainer it might be the cross country one not sure but you have to use the radio and u have to say :example: cessna 227 or something is it just a random name they give or? sorry this might be a stupid questions but an answer would be great thanks

Somebody has been playing Flight Simulator What you are referring to is the "callsign" it will usually just be the aircraft reg like EI-BGS (said using phonetic alphabet of course) Airliners will have company callsigns like Shamrock, Cactus, Speedbird followed by a couple of numbers, which i think might be the flight number.

Reon

oooooooooooh thanks alot and nope dont have the simulator thing im just bricking it cause i have a slight stutter and wonder if that would effect it much? its not bad like ddddddddog lol thanks for replying

happy_head

Reon wrote: »

oooooooooooh thanks alot and nope dont have the simulator thing im just bricking it cause i have a slight stutter and wonder if that would effect it much? its not bad like ddddddddog lol thanks for replying

Shouldn't be a problem if it is not too bad. Sure even people without stutters sometimes make a balls of the radio. I found it daunting at first, but so cool when you get the hang of it. I wouldnt be worrying about it at all, the ATC will no that you are training and are usually very helpful and patient! If you plan on training in a school which is in, or close to a Control area or zone you will get plenty of experience in working the radio. Best of luck

Reon

happy_head wrote: »

Shouldn't be a problem if it is not too bad. Sure even people without stutters sometimes make a balls of the radio. I found it daunting at first, but so cool when you get the hang of it. I wouldnt be worrying about it at all, the ATC will no that you are training and are usually very helpful and patient! If you plan on training in a school which is in, or close to a Control area or zone you will get plenty of experience in working the radio. Best of luck

cheers bud im hoping to get in done in cambridge thanks alot very helpfull

LeftBase

Reon wrote: »

oooooooooooh thanks alot and nope dont have the simulator thing im just bricking it cause i have a slight stutter and wonder if that would effect it much? its not bad like ddddddddog lol thanks for replying

The radio's only there so you can make a fool of yourself with it. That's what I was told. Once you hit that p/t button....bang...mind goes blank and you become a jabbering idiot!;)

CharlieOscar

As far as I know, when you are doing your solo flights, your call sign will be "student followed by the aircraft reg".

When you are doing your Flight Test, you are given a call sign that ATC's know is a student pilot doing a flight test.

John_Mc

CharlieOscar wrote: »

As far as I know, when you are doing your solo flights, your call sign will be "student followed by the aircraft reg".

When you are doing your Flight Test, you are given a call sign that ATC's know is a student pilot doing a flight test.

Yes - when you don't have your PPL you prefix the callsign with Student.

So if you were flying an aircraft with registration EI-BMN your callsign would be "Student Bravo Mike November" (after you've made initial contact which would say the full callsign).

OP- I'd recommend getting yourself setup with Vatsim in Flightsim. You connect to a server and communicate with real people playing the role of ATC. You use the same terminology and it's a great way of learning.

I had absolutely no problems with RT from my first lesson based on my Vatsim experience

LeftBase

John_Mc wrote: »

OP- I'd recommend getting yourself setup with Vatsim in Flightsim. You connect to a server and communicate with real people playing the role of ATC. You use the same terminology and it's a great way of learning.

Although OP should be aware that real world ATC staff are not 10 year old little Hitlers!;)

John_Mc

LeftBase wrote: »

Although OP should be aware that real world ATC staff are not 10 year old little Hitlers!;)

Obviously

The VatEire fellas are on the ball though. They know the sector, how it works in real life and their RT is almost always spot on.

Trying going EIDW-EGLL/EGKK on a Sunday night and you'll be impressed by how close they simulate the real world ops.

happy_head

You only put the "student" prefix before the aircraft reg for innitial contact with an ATS.... Not for every transmission.

LeftBase

happy_head wrote: »

You only put the "student" prefix before the aircraft reg for innitial contact with an ATS.... Not for every transmission.

Unless you get into trouble or end up somewhere you shouldn't be! Then you hammer that student callsign home all day!:D

happy_head

LeftBase wrote: »

Unless you get into trouble or end up somewhere you shouldn't be! Then you hammer that student callsign home all day!:D

Lol you can be sure i'll be putting the word 'Student' between every other word if i ever get lost!

Reon

thanks everyone for replying im gna be sh!ting bricks when i do mine so would care much if u mess up abit or stutter? for some reason if im stuck with something i always say "like"infront of it its a habit dont ask why lol but id say it really fast haha so id probably be like " like student 22 coming in haha or something retarded fml any advice on that :P.. again sorry if this is retarded..

BigGrayKettle

Reon wrote: »

thanks everyone for replying im gna be sh!ting bricks when i do mine so would care much if u mess up abit or stutter? for some reason if im stuck with something i always say "like"infront of it its a habit dont ask why lol but id say it really fast haha so id probably be like " like student 22 coming in haha or something retarded fml any advice on that :P.. again sorry if this is retarded..

Don't worry about it, the first couple of lessons you have your instructor will handle the radios (usually anyway), so you can learn the ropes from him/her.

Reon

BigGrayKettle wrote: »

Don't worry about it, the first couple of lessons you have your instructor will handle the radios (usually anyway), so you can learn the ropes from him/her.

ok sweet thanks just have to get over the nerves :P, when u get your ppl you are technically a Pilot arnt you?

Pataman

CharlieOscar wrote: »

As far as I know, when you are doing your solo flights, your call sign will be "student followed by the aircraft reg".

When you are doing your Flight Test, you are given a call sign that ATC's know is a student pilot doing a flight test.

Is that a new requirement?
Didnt have that in my day:D

Pataman

Reon wrote: »

ok sweet thanks just have to get over the nerves :P, when u get your ppl you are technically a Pilot arnt you?

Yep.
thats when the real fun begins.

LeftBase

Reon wrote: »

thanks everyone for replying im gna be sh!ting bricks when i do mine so would care much if u mess up abit or stutter? for some reason if im stuck with something i always say "like"infront of it its a habit dont ask why lol but id say it really fast haha so id probably be like " like student 22 coming in haha or something retarded fml any advice on that :P.. again sorry if this is retarded..

ATC are tolerant of you partly as they know you're new and mostly because it is in their interest to clarify things with you on the radio so you dont end up over over Collinstown....

when u get your ppl you are technically a Pilot arnt you?

A private pilot yes.....you may wish to clarify that if you tell people...though maybe not...the less said and all that.

CharlieOscar

Download a copy of the CAA Radiotelephony Pdf

That should help you, it certainly helped me.

Or the simple advise I was given when doing the ELP for Radio.

Who you are, Where you are and What you want!!!!!

Lustrum

Can I suggest doing some backseating during your training, as in sit in the back on someone else's lesson. That way you can concentrate on listening to all the RT from every aircraft on frequency without having to worry about flying the plane too - it's much better than any simulation.

Personally, I'd recommend it for all of your training aswell, do as much backseating as you can as it's basically free lessons minus the pressure of cocking it up