slatted tank

Tomjim

Anyone know what the width of a shuttering is in a slatted tank trying to cost the price of concrete

gerico

do you mean the wall thickness. did a tank recently with 12" walls

buffalobilly

done one my self recently walls were also 12" thick see some guys doing end walls 6" or 9" (not sure which) i think myself for a bit more concrete the 12" would be a better job as you would only want to do the job once

Farmer Pudsey

They can be 12" or 9" depending on contractor, alot of guys doing smaller tanks 2-3 bay by 12' do 9" walls while most contractors doing 14-16' do 12" it depends on there setup. Check with the contractor a 12" wall will use 33% more concrete than a 9" or if you calculate for a 12", a 9" will use 25% less.

Tomjim

what depth of concrete would the base (floor) of the tank be

bob charles

Tomjim wrote: »

what depth of concrete would the base (floor) of the tank be

225mm or 9" for the floor

Good loser

bob charles wrote: »

225mm or 9" for the floor

The floor will extend outside the walls to fill the area excavated.

Recently a 9 inch wall for a 14 6 slat 8 ft deep took the same concrete for floor as walls

Suckler

Rather than start a new thread, I'll hop on the back of this one;

Meself and the aul buck were talking about putting in a lean to shed to one side of our hay shed - 3 bay 45 foot long - to house a few cattle. probably make two bays for cattle and one bay for storage. At first we thought of just a concrete floor and we'd scrape of the muck and bedding and make a dung heap. The more we thought about it, the more hassle it'd be to keep scraping the sheds and also to store the stuff plus effluent control then dig it all back out again to spread - heartache.

We're going to look in to installing a small slatted unit - two bays, 30ft x 22ft. I've no experience in slatted units, looking for a bit of advice -
Can anyone tell me if the above dimensions are applicable 12" walls + 9" floors?
What dimensions are tractor slats normally?
What depth should we be going down?

Cheers

Farmer Pudsey

Suckler wrote: »

Rather than start a new thread, I'll hop on the back of this one;

Meself and the aul buck were talking about putting in a lean to shed to one side of our hay shed - 3 bay 45 foot long - to house a few cattle. probably make two bays for cattle and one bay for storage. At first we thought of just a concrete floor and we'd scrape of the muck and bedding and make a dung heap. The more we thought about it, the more hassle it'd be to keep scraping the sheds and also to store the stuff plus effluent control then dig it all back out again to spread - heartache.

We're going to look in to installing a small slatted unit - two bays, 30ft x 22ft. I've no experience in slatted units, looking for a bit of advice -
Can anyone tell me if the above dimensions are applicable 12" walls + 9" floors?
What dimensions are tractor slats normally?
What depth should we be going down?

Cheers

Tank floor will be 9" walls can be 9" or 12" depending on contractor. Also you need to calculate how much slurry storage yoy need, Making a tank a bit larger at this stage will not add a lot of cost as you are only looking at extra cost of steel and concrete and maybe another 1'or2' on slat sizes depending on the option you decide on.. Slats come in many sizes starting at 8'6" up to 16'6"

Remember if you have to expand a tank afterwards or need extra slurry storage it is very expensive compared to doing it first day. A contractor will not charge much more for a 3 bay tank compared to a 2 bay or for a tank that will take a 16' 6" slat compare to a 10' slat but you will have twice the storage.

Tractor slats are of different dimensions depending on how wide they are and what type of steel concerete used but woul only be a few inches deeper than standard slats. In a two bay shed I would see no reason to put in tractor slats.

At 22' wide your run back area will be quite small even if using a 12' slat remember you may also have an area around the slats within the pens tis can be sloped so that it will not hold dung. I presume with the name it is sucklers that you have so a decent size area ta the rear of the shed will allow for a few calving pen and a creep area for calves maybe a bull pen and a small crush/calving gate.

Try to go see a few small sheds ask farmer if he would have done anything different or put in anything extra. A small bit extra now could make life a lot easier in 5 years time

conseng

This would be worth a look. Grant specifications give a good starting point.

http://www.agriculture.gov.ie/farmerschemespayments/farmbuildings/farmbuildingandstructuresspecificationspdfformat/

Suckler

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

Tank floor will be 9" walls can be 9" or 12" depending on contractor. Also you need to calculate how much slurry storage yoy need, Making a tank a bit larger at this stage will not add a lot of cost as you are only looking at extra cost of steel and concrete and maybe another 1'or2' on slat sizes depending on the option you decide on.. Slats come in many sizes starting at 8'6" up to 16'6"

Correct – I did some rough costs – Adding a third slatted bay might add 5k max.

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

Remember if you have to expand a tank afterwards or need extra slurry storage it is very expensive compared to doing it first day. A contractor will not charge much more for a 3 bay tank compared to a 2 bay or for a tank that will take a 16' 6" slat compare to a 10' slat but you will have twice the storage.

This will be a one off. If we do want to expand again I’ll build in another spot.

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

Tractor slats are of different dimensions depending on how wide they are and what type of steel concerete used but woul only be a few inches deeper than standard slats. In a two bay shed I would see no reason to put in tractor slats.

I considered tractor slats as they give me more length, plus I want the option of being able to drive on them. Got a quote for tractor V standard; not much cost difference.

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

At 22' wide your run back area will be quite small even if using a 12' slat remember you may also have an area around the slats within the pens tis can be sloped so that it will not hold dung. I presume with the name it is sucklers that you have so a decent size area ta the rear of the shed will allow for a few calving pen and a creep area for calves maybe a bull pen and a small crush/calving gate.

Yeah, after drawing it all tout to scale I might just add that. I’ll try to throw up a drawing of what I’m thinking so it’s a bit clearer.

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

Try to go see a few small sheds ask farmer if he would have done anything different or put in anything extra. A small bit extra now could make life a lot easier in 5 years time

Definatley.; hence the questions now. Thanks for your answers.

Good loser

Will you be feeding from front or side? One slat (at least) will be outside for agitating.

You would need an overhang if feeding from side. It gives a longer feed face but needs a yard.

I would say go 14 6'' slat - all these are tractor slats.