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Why does society glamorise pirates?

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  • 25-06-2012 11:58pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 1,663 ✭✭✭


    Now I'm not talking about those Somalian fellas. I'm talking about old style pirates. I feel their popularity's risen since Jack Sparrow's burst on the scene.

    But if you think pirates: stole, pillaged seaside towns and raped women while they were there, committed violence, smuggled goods. They were hardly model citizens. Also if you think about it: a group of lads drinking large quantities of rum, out at sea for months at a time, I suspect there was was a fair bit of fruity action going on as well. :pac:

    They also commandeered boats. Would terrorists perhaps have a better rep if they say they were going to commandeer a plane rather than hijack one I wonder?

    If there were old style pirates knocking about round Ireland it would be chaos.

    Just saying like :cool:
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    T'was a simplerrrrrrrr time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    Don't question it. We all know pirates are seriously bad ass!
    Seriously Arrrrd :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    Didn't they kidnap people in Baltimore, Cork

    I don't think the Corkonians are fond of them
    But then the Corkonians hate everyone!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,271 ✭✭✭✭johngalway


    Pirates are great, the freedom of the seven seas, stickin it to the man - with cannon! Treasure, rum, wenches, and, ehm, more treasure!

    What's not to like.

    Pirates been popular a lot longer than Jack Sparrow's been around.

    Yo ho ho and a bottle o rum :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    Pirate goes to the doctors with a ship's wheel attached to his genitals
    Aaarrrr, the're driving me nuts..


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    pirates tended to be sailors who escaped from being press-ganged (slaves) onto navy ships. freed slaves would tend not to look too favourably on their former captors.


  • Registered Users Posts: 901 ✭✭✭Vicar in a tutu


    Ehhh because they're deadly?!?!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 654 ✭✭✭girl2


    Johnny Depp. That's why :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,800 ✭✭✭Senna


    Pirates make me wet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭Scioch


    All because of the movies, same as gangsters, assassins and anything else are glamorised. If a movie was made portraying Hitler and Nazi's as hero's starring Depp, Dicaprio or whatever popular actor of the times then nazi's would be "cool".

    The majority of what people know about pirates including the lingo was invented for entertainment purposes.


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  • Site Banned Posts: 2,037 ✭✭✭paddyandy


    Robbery and Violence are very big markets .The Entertainment Industry celebrates evil and people pay to enjoy the spectacle of Evil .


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭IrishAm


    Hollywood movies and Lego.

    Tg4 produced a great documentary on Ireland most infamous pirate, Gráinne O'Malley. That was one fearsome lady. There would be no Irish women are fat/ugly/up themselves threads on here if she was still around.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    paddyandy wrote: »
    Robbery and Violence are very big markets .The Entertainment Industry celebrates evil and people pay to enjoy the spectacle of Evil .

    You're religious, right?


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,364 ✭✭✭✭Kylo Ren


    Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar....imo.


  • Site Banned Posts: 2,037 ✭✭✭paddyandy


    Confab wrote: »
    You're religious, right?

    Do i have to be ???? I don't think so myself but you have to find some fault anyhow .


  • Registered Users Posts: 121 ✭✭Angel8ie


    girl2 wrote: »
    Johnny Depp. That's why :)

    Does there need to be more said? I dont think so :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,199 ✭✭✭Shryke


    They're romanticized rather than glamorized. Everyone loves the rebel and the under dog. It helps that some were genuinely impressive figures and their legends have stood the test of time. Everyone knows Edward Teach aka Blackbeard or our own Grace O Malley.


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,220 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    Because fúck the RIAA

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • Site Banned Posts: 2,037 ✭✭✭paddyandy


    Violence is called 'Action' in the movie industry so people are not made too aware ...because reality might offend them ...


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭DavyD_83


    Always been a fan of the pirates! they get to chill around on boats drinking rum and taking stuff from snooty lads with monocles. An there's the whole swinging onto other boats craic.
    Living the dream!!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,968 ✭✭✭blindside88


    Why are pirates glamorised in our society?


    They just Arrrrrrrrrr


    Sorry couldn't help it


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,614 ✭✭✭ArtSmart


    Well, I always assumed it was the big floppy boots.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭grindle


    IrishAm wrote: »
    Gráinne O'Malley. That was one fearsome lady. There would be no Irish women are fat/ugly/up themselves threads on here if she was still around.

    Did her presence cause all other women (wart-nosed troll-behemoths that they are) to become svelte/beautiful/down to earth?
    Through osmosis, or because she was that much worse?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭christmas2012


    pirates are often poor,and smell of fish,they come from poor parts of the world usually and are very gruesome and violent..

    I dont see how they are glamourized,but maybe the more famous pirates of our past are idealized somewhat i wouldnt say they would have been pleasant people to meet..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    i saw one in spaaaaaarrrr today


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    paddyandy wrote: »
    Do i have to be ???? I don't think so myself but you have to find some fault anyhow .

    Generally religious people capitalise the word 'evil'.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,903 ✭✭✭Napper Hawkins


    grindle wrote: »
    Did her presence cause all other women (wart-nosed troll-behemoths that they are) to become svelte/beautiful/down to earth?
    Through osmosis, or because she was that much worse?

    I think he means that Irish men wouldn't have the stones to say that **** about Irish women if she were around.

    Of course, if she was around there'd be a high chance a lot of Irish women wouldn't be fat tubs of obnoxious, shallow goo. Same for men too, probably.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,426 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Its just another angle for the porn industry. The highest grossing porn movie ever made was pirate themed.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    I believe life on a pirate ship was quite egalitarian compared with the navy boats.
    Pirate Democracy.

    Unlike traditional Western societies of the time, many Caribbean pirate crews of European descent operated as limited democracies. Pirate communities were some of the first to instate a system of checks and balances similar to the one used by the present-day United States and many other countries. The first record of such a government aboard a pirate sloop dates to the 17th century.

    Both the captain and the quartermaster were elected by the crew; they, in turn, appointed the other ship's officers. The captain of a pirate ship was often a fierce fighter in whom the men could place their trust, rather than a more traditional authority figure sanctioned by an elite. However, when not in battle, the quartermaster usually had the real authority. Many groups of pirates shared in whatever they seized; pirates injured in battle might be afforded special compensation similar to medical or disability insurance.

    There are contemporary records that many pirates placed a portion of any captured money into a central fund that was used to compensate the injuries sustained by the crew. Lists show standardised payments of 600 pieces of eight ($156,000 in modern currency) for the loss of a leg down to 100 pieces ($26,800) for loss of an eye. Often all of these terms were agreed upon and written down by the pirates, but these articles could also be used as incriminating proof that they were outlaws.

    Source.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,406 ✭✭✭Pompey Magnus


    Same with those Viking Tours around Dublin, basically the same as New York introducing airplane shaped tour buses of the city where everyone gets to dress as a Jihadist and scream "Allah Akbar" at passers by.


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