Why does society glamorise pirates?

Immaculate Pasta

Now I'm not talking about those Somalian fellas. I'm talking about old style pirates. I feel their popularity's risen since Jack Sparrow's burst on the scene.

But if you think pirates: stole, pillaged seaside towns and raped women while they were there, committed violence, smuggled goods. They were hardly model citizens. Also if you think about it: a group of lads drinking large quantities of rum, out at sea for months at a time, I suspect there was was a fair bit of fruity action going on as well. :pac:

They also commandeered boats. Would terrorists perhaps have a better rep if they say they were going to commandeer a plane rather than hijack one I wonder?

If there were old style pirates knocking about round Ireland it would be chaos.

Just saying like :cool:

chin_grin

T'was a simplerrrrrrrr time.

TeddyTedson

Don't question it. We all know pirates are seriously bad ass!
Seriously Arrrrd

mikemac1

Didn't they kidnap people in Baltimore, Cork

I don't think the Corkonians are fond of them
But then the Corkonians hate everyone!

johngalway

Pirates are great, the freedom of the seven seas, stickin it to the man - with cannon! Treasure, rum, wenches, and, ehm, more treasure!

What's not to like.

Pirates been popular a lot longer than Jack Sparrow's been around.

Yo ho ho and a bottle o rum

galwayrush

Pirate goes to the doctors with a ship's wheel attached to his genitals
Aaarrrr, the're driving me nuts..

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

pirates tended to be sailors who escaped from being press-ganged (slaves) onto navy ships. freed slaves would tend not to look too favourably on their former captors.

Vicar in a tutu

Ehhh because they're deadly?!?!!

girl2

Johnny Depp. That's why

Senna

Pirates make me wet.

Scioch

All because of the movies, same as gangsters, assassins and anything else are glamorised. If a movie was made portraying Hitler and Nazi's as hero's starring Depp, Dicaprio or whatever popular actor of the times then nazi's would be "cool".

The majority of what people know about pirates including the lingo was invented for entertainment purposes.

paddyandy

Robbery and Violence are very big markets .The Entertainment Industry celebrates evil and people pay to enjoy the spectacle of Evil .

IrishAm

Hollywood movies and Lego.

Tg4 produced a great documentary on Ireland most infamous pirate, Gráinne O'Malley. That was one fearsome lady. There would be no Irish women are fat/ugly/up themselves threads on here if she was still around.

Mr Benevolent

paddyandy wrote: »

Robbery and Violence are very big markets .The Entertainment Industry celebrates evil and people pay to enjoy the spectacle of Evil .

You're religious, right?

Kylo Ren

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar....imo.

paddyandy

Confab wrote: »

You're religious, right?

Do i have to be ???? I don't think so myself but you have to find some fault anyhow .

Angel8ie

girl2 wrote: »

Johnny Depp. That's why

Does there need to be more said? I dont think so

Shryke

They're romanticized rather than glamorized. Everyone loves the rebel and the under dog. It helps that some were genuinely impressive figures and their legends have stood the test of time. Everyone knows Edward Teach aka Blackbeard or our own Grace O Malley.

GLaDOS

Because fúck the RIAA

paddyandy

Violence is called 'Action' in the movie industry so people are not made too aware ...because reality might offend them ...

DavyD_83

Always been a fan of the pirates! they get to chill around on boats drinking rum and taking stuff from snooty lads with monocles. An there's the whole swinging onto other boats craic.
Living the dream!!

blindside88

Why are pirates glamorised in our society?


They just Arrrrrrrrrr


Sorry couldn't help it

ArtSmart

Well, I always assumed it was the big floppy boots.

grindle

IrishAm wrote: »

Gráinne O'Malley. That was one fearsome lady. There would be no Irish women are fat/ugly/up themselves threads on here if she was still around.

Did her presence cause all other women (wart-nosed troll-behemoths that they are) to become svelte/beautiful/down to earth?
Through osmosis, or because she was that much worse?

christmas2012

pirates are often poor,and smell of fish,they come from poor parts of the world usually and are very gruesome and violent..

I dont see how they are glamourized,but maybe the more famous pirates of our past are idealized somewhat i wouldnt say they would have been pleasant people to meet..

admiralofthefleet

i saw one in spaaaaaarrrr today

Mr Benevolent

paddyandy wrote: »

Do i have to be ???? I don't think so myself but you have to find some fault anyhow .

Generally religious people capitalise the word 'evil'.

Napper Hawkins

grindle wrote: »

Did her presence cause all other women (wart-nosed troll-behemoths that they are) to become svelte/beautiful/down to earth?
Through osmosis, or because she was that much worse?

I think he means that Irish men wouldn't have the stones to say that **** about Irish women if she were around.

Of course, if she was around there'd be a high chance a lot of Irish women wouldn't be fat tubs of obnoxious, shallow goo. Same for men too, probably.

SafeSurfer

Its just another angle for the porn industry. The highest grossing porn movie ever made was pirate themed.

Chuck Stone

I believe life on a pirate ship was quite egalitarian compared with the navy boats.

Pirate Democracy.

Unlike traditional Western societies of the time, many Caribbean pirate crews of European descent operated as limited democracies. Pirate communities were some of the first to instate a system of checks and balances similar to the one used by the present-day United States and many other countries. The first record of such a government aboard a pirate sloop dates to the 17th century.

Both the captain and the quartermaster were elected by the crew; they, in turn, appointed the other ship's officers. The captain of a pirate ship was often a fierce fighter in whom the men could place their trust, rather than a more traditional authority figure sanctioned by an elite. However, when not in battle, the quartermaster usually had the real authority. Many groups of pirates shared in whatever they seized; pirates injured in battle might be afforded special compensation similar to medical or disability insurance.

There are contemporary records that many pirates placed a portion of any captured money into a central fund that was used to compensate the injuries sustained by the crew. Lists show standardised payments of 600 pieces of eight ($156,000 in modern currency) for the loss of a leg down to 100 pieces ($26,800) for loss of an eye. Often all of these terms were agreed upon and written down by the pirates, but these articles could also be used as incriminating proof that they were outlaws.

Source.

Pompey Magnus

Same with those Viking Tours around Dublin, basically the same as New York introducing airplane shaped tour buses of the city where everyone gets to dress as a Jihadist and scream "Allah Akbar" at passers by.

grindle

Pompey Magnus wrote: »

Same with those Viking Tours around Dublin, basically the same as New York introducing airplane shaped tour buses of the city where everyone gets to dress as a Jihadist and scream "Allah Akbar" at passers by.

TOO SOON!!!

ArtSmart

Chuck Stone wrote: »

I believe life on a pirate ship was quite egalitarian compared with the navy boats.



Source.

yes and as far as i remember Haiti or therabouts, a pirate hold-out was the world's first attempted democracy - or something to that effect. (no, Athens wasn't a full democracy)

still reckon it's the boots though

seXmym0nkey

People just like other criminals in the same way though. It's not just pirates.

Think of the Godfather and the Sopranos and they way they romanticize mobsters.

Smidge

Hate to crush every ones "Johnny Depp" pirate fantasy.................


But most Pirates were GAY :eek::eek::eek:

Hence the earing in the certain ear thing, it said which way you were swinging!

Think about it..........


Years at sea, copious amounts of rum instead of water?????

Sindri

You wouldn't steal a dvd.


You wouldn't illegally download a film.


You wouldn't stream copyrighted content without paying for it.


You wouldn't steal a treasure chest.


Report piracy. It's a crime.

DingChavez

Pompey Magnus wrote: »

Same with those Viking Tours around Dublin, basically the same as New York introducing airplane shaped tour buses of the city where everyone gets to dress as a Jihadist and scream "Allah Akbar" at passers by.

I don't think the Jihadists founded New York and had a kingdom there for several centuries while adopting American customs and intermarrying.

Jesus Wept

Pompey Magnus wrote: »

Same with those Viking Tours around Dublin, basically the same as New York introducing airplane shaped tour buses of the city where everyone gets to dress as a Jihadist and scream "Allah Akbar" at passers by.

Tis not the same minnow.

CruelCoin

For the rum of course!

Sheeeesh....

BlueSmoker

I think the word "priate", came from the word "privateer", which where free lance sailors and ships commisioned by royal or rich merchants, of a particular country.
And considering most European countries where at a power struggles for the shipping lanes with each other during the 1500 -1700, one countries pirate was another countries privateer.

So really they where just merchants, who thought the had a right to plunder another countries bounty, more than likely plundered by yet another counties resources.

I think the modern day "Rebel, with a cause" priate sounds way cooler though

Duggy747

BRrip h.264 aac 5.1ch pirates are the most evil.

Plazaman

They have great radio stations though and a lot of it is Classic Rock so they can't be all that bad.

V_Moth

Because of the awesome sea shanties, that's why!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBH4g_ua5es

smash

Give it a few years and when the whole 911 thing blows over we might have a "Terrorists in the sky" franchise.

Gummy Panda

SafeSurfer wrote: »

Its just another angle for the porn industry. The highest grossing porn movie ever made was pirate themed.

TO THE INTERNETZ

Nermal

Live in something everyone else considers a mode of transport.

Sees law as more guidelines, really.

Interesting take on business relationships.

Almost impenetrable language and accent.


Pirates - travellers of the sea?

OldGoat

Global Warming/Pirates/Flying Spaghetti Monster. 'nuff said.