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Adobe Flash Builder

  • 25-06-2012 10:06pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,696 ✭✭✭


    Have recently learned that Adobe will give out Flash Builder to students for free and given that I like free stuff :D I have applied. I'm part time and sent jpg of student card as id, and sent from college student email, refusal message below... I have replied asking for clarity on refusal.... has anyone received free flash builder and if so - what was used as proof of studentism??



    Thanks for your interest in Adobe Flash Builder. Sorry, you do not qualify for a free version of Adobe Flash Builder for one of the following reasons:

    1. You may not be a current student, faculty member, or an employee at an educational institution.

    2. The credentials you uploaded may not be adequate to establish your eligibility.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,034 ✭✭✭dalta5billion


    john47832 wrote: »
    Have recently learned that Adobe will give out Flash Builder to students for free and given that I like free stuff :D I have applied. I'm part time and sent jpg of student card as id, and sent from college student email, refusal message below... I have replied asking for clarity on refusal.... has anyone received free flash builder and if so - what was used as proof of studentism??



    Thanks for your interest in Adobe Flash Builder. Sorry, you do not qualify for a free version of Adobe Flash Builder for one of the following reasons:

    1. You may not be a current student, faculty member, or an employee at an educational institution.

    2. The credentials you uploaded may not be adequate to establish your eligibility.
    Lol. When the IEDR asked for proof of ID for a personal .ie, I sent them a scan of my passport with literally just my name visible, everything else blocked out.

    Just sending them loads of little things would probably help you. Perhaps a course offer or recent student memo letter addressed to you. Maybe a blanked out passport with D.O.B. visible etc. as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,882 ✭✭✭johndoe99


    sending a copy of your student ID is not proof, as they can be easily forged.

    Get a letter from your college that contains a contact phone number, also a copy of bith cert or passport, and proof of address like a bill.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,246 ✭✭✭conor.hogan.2


    So Adobe needs greater proof than a bank requires, essentially.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,696 ✭✭✭mark renton


    johndoe99 wrote: »
    sending a copy of your student ID is not proof, as they can be easily forged.

    Get a letter from your college that contains a contact phone number, also a copy of bith cert or passport, and proof of address like a bill.

    I thought sending it from student email, with student id contained in email would validate :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,882 ✭✭✭johndoe99


    So Adobe needs greater proof than a bank requires, essentially.

    yes. with all the pirating of software that exists today, especially that adobe are one of the hardest hit, you can't blame them.
    john47832 wrote: »
    I thought sending it from student email, with student id contained in email would validate

    that ain't enough, they need proof that you are a student on a particular course (the letter must confirm this) that requires that software. As theres no way for them to stop you from making copies and passing it onto others.


    when i was at college, they was a similar arrangement.

    But the lecturer himself was the one that had contacted Borland (programming software), and we had to go through him.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,015 ✭✭✭CreepingDeath


    john47832 wrote: »
    Have recently learned that Adobe will give out Flash Builder to students for free and given that I like free stuff :D I have applied.

    Adobe software is riddled with security bugs and probably a dying product as soon as HTML 5 takes hold, so I wouldn't necessarily invest too much time it in.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,696 ✭✭✭mark renton


    Adobe software is riddled with security bugs and probably a dying product as soon as HTML 5 takes hold, so I wouldn't necessarily invest too much time it in.

    Still the most highly supported browser plugin - methinks it will take a while before HTML5 matches Flash's popularity


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭damoth


    john47832 wrote: »
    Have recently learned that Adobe will give out Flash Builder to students for free and given that I like free stuff :D I have applied. I'm part time and sent jpg of student card as id, and sent from college student email, refusal message below... I have replied asking for clarity on refusal.... has anyone received free flash builder and if so - what was used as proof of studentism??



    Thanks for your interest in Adobe Flash Builder. Sorry, you do not qualify for a free version of Adobe Flash Builder for one of the following reasons:

    1. You may not be a current student, faculty member, or an employee at an educational institution.

    2. The credentials you uploaded may not be adequate to establish your eligibility.

    They did the same thing to me last year (although i'm a full time student if that makes any difference) - I emailed asking them to review the decision and they replied with the serial number without any further problems. I had just sent a jpg of my ID card.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 377 ✭✭irishdude11


    john47832 wrote: »
    Still the most highly supported browser plugin - methinks it will take a while before HTML5 matches Flash's popularity

    Terrible waste of time to go and learn a dying technology. Whats the point?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,696 ✭✭✭mark renton


    Terrible waste of time to go and learn a dying technology. Whats the point?

    There is always a point to learn technology, be it an old technology or a new technology...

    anyways its free, thats the part that suckered me in


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,246 ✭✭✭conor.hogan.2


    john47832 wrote: »
    anyways its free, thats the part that suckered me in

    Yeah, the main reason Adobe and Microsoft have such popular software they give it away or very cheaply to colleges/students and then most just continue with it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,696 ✭✭✭mark renton


    Yeah, the main reason Adobe and Microsoft have such popular software they give it away or very cheaply to colleges/students and then most just continue with it.

    Yea - all of these "uneducated students with bad coding habits and out of date tools" should be lynched :rolleyes:

    Actually i think its fair play to Microsoft and Adobe to give out free stuff to students - they dont have to...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,246 ✭✭✭conor.hogan.2


    john47832 wrote: »
    Yea - all of these "uneducated students with bad coding habits and out of date tools" should be lynched :rolleyes:

    Actually i think its fair play to Microsoft and Adobe to give out free stuff to students - they dont have to...

    Did I say any of that?

    They do it for profit, I would say fair play in certain cases to them but this is not one.

    http://blog.brackets.io/2012/06/25/brackets-open-source-code-editor/ for instance deserves credit. More in line with this Adobe Edge deserves some credit too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,696 ✭✭✭mark renton


    Did I say any of that?

    nope, was added for effect, just cant find the appropriate emoticons on here

    wasnt intended to offend

    They do it for profit, I would say fair play in certain cases to them but this is not one.

    Yes - they are fundamentally a business with a primary purpose of generating revenue

    http://blog.brackets.io/2012/06/25/brackets-open-source-code-editor/ for instance deserves credit. More in line with this Adobe Edge deserves some credit too.

    somehow I dont get the same feeling when I get open source for free...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,246 ✭✭✭conor.hogan.2


    john47832 wrote: »
    somehow I dont get the same feeling when I get open source for free...

    While I hope that is a joke, if true you could always donate to the project...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,040 ✭✭✭Colonel Panic


    Yeah, the main reason Adobe and Microsoft have such popular software they give it away or very cheaply to colleges/students and then most just continue with it.

    That's a very sweeping statement, especially when Microsoft's dev tools in particular are amongst the best I've ever used.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,246 ✭✭✭conor.hogan.2


    That's a very sweeping statement, especially when Microsoft's dev tools in particular are amongst the best I've ever used.

    I never said they were not good too, but they are very deep in colleges in Ireland and elsewhere and that contributes to a lot of their future customers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,696 ✭✭✭mark renton


    As it happens - they replied that my file with student id was corrupt :pac::pac::pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,426 ✭✭✭ressem


    Flash Builder is a completely different beastie to Adobe Flash Professional as used for your common flash components.

    It's a module for Eclipse IDE (and a fragile one too) and you're developing server applications in Flex framework for deployment onto J2EE or Php+zend.

    I'd rate it as a waste of your time, compared to everything else. And I bought it in the past.


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