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Bus Coaches 100km/h speed limit

  • 25-06-2012 12:36pm
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    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,279 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    Why are bus coaches in Ireland limited to 100km/h.

    With the very high quality of the new direct coaches operating in Ireland, which certainly have plenty of power and the very high quality of our motorways, I don't see any reason why thy should be limited to just 100km/h.

    After all much the same coaches on generally inferior roads in the UK are limited to 70mph which is 113km/h.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    bk wrote: »
    Why are bus coaches in Ireland limited to 100km/h.

    With the very high quality of the new direct coaches operating in Ireland, which certainly have plenty of power and the very high quality of our motorways, I don't see any reason why they should be limited to just 100km/h.

    After all much the same coaches on generally inferior roads in the UK are limited to 70mph which is 113km/h.

    Firstly bk,if the Bus/Coach has "Provision for Standing Passengers" it's limited to 65 Km/h.

    If No provision for Standees then it's 100Km/h on Motorways and Dual Carriageways,but back to 80Km/h on "other roads" subject to the limit in place on them.

    Some interesting stuff here on the UK situation....

    http://metricviews.org.uk/2011/01/ministers-refuse-to-update-obsolete-hgv-speed-limits/


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,827 ✭✭✭christmas2012


    bumps on the roads in ireland and potholes a bus doing 100km :eek: are you serious?that could topple long load bus easily..

    theres a reason why they go slower..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 133 ✭✭currins_02


    In the UK coach (no standees) speed limiters must be set to 100kph exactly as they are here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,313 ✭✭✭Mycroft H


    bk wrote: »
    Why are bus coaches in Ireland limited to 100km/h.

    With the very high quality of the new direct coaches operating in Ireland, which certainly have plenty of power and the very high quality of our motorways, I don't see any reason why thy should be limited to just 100km/h.

    After all much the same coaches on generally inferior roads in the UK are limited to 70mph which is 113km/h.

    I've had CityLink Coaches up my ass on an 80km/h R road when I was doing 95km/h with nowhere to pull in.

    I would not object to a faster then 100km/h limit on a Dual Carriageway/M-Way but the 80km/h limit outside of the above is not enforced and almost always broken, so by that reason, it should stick at 100km/h. Its a compromise.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,279 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    bumps on the roads in ireland and potholes a bus doing 100km :eek: are you serious?that could topple long load bus easily..

    theres a reason why they go slower..

    I'm talking about the speed limit on Motorways.

    The intercity motorways are built to a very high standard, as good as motorways almost anywhere in the world and aren't bumpy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,624 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    No airbags and most passengers not wearing seat belts is probably the reason. That said, I remember even on the old Newbridge bypass the big white Bus Eireann coaches used to bomb along at well over 60 mph before we went metric.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 471 ✭✭The_Wrecker


    BX 19 wrote: »
    I've had CityLink Coaches up my ass on an 80km/h R road when I was doing 95km/h with nowhere to pull in.

    I would not object to a faster then 100km/h limit on a Dual Carriageway/M-Way but the 80km/h limit outside of the above is not enforced and almost always broken, so by that reason, it should stick at 100km/h. Its a compromise.

    I wouldnt be in favour of any speed over 100kph. As a driver i can tell you for sure on a wet day you cant stop these monsters in a hurry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    I wouldnt be in favour of any speed over 100kph. As a driver i can tell you for sure on a wet day you cant stop these monsters in a hurry.

    well you would assume they would drive to the conditions and know how the bus reacts, being professionals and all that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    Well you would assume they would drive to the conditions and know how the bus reacts, being professionals and all that.

    And thankfully,that assumption has largely been justified,with only rare examples of the negative results which stimulate so many...:rolleyes:


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    bk wrote: »
    Why are bus coaches in Ireland limited to 100km/h.

    <snip>

    After all much the same coaches on generally inferior roads in the UK are limited to 70mph which is 113km/h.

    In the UK Passenger Carrying Vehicles are physically limited to 100kph but their road speed limit is lower at 60mph.

    The 70mph/112kph speed limit is only applicable to goods vehicles under 7.5tonnes but most goods vehicles over 3.5tonnes are now limited to 56mph/90kph


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,080 ✭✭✭Vic_08


    foggy_lad wrote: »
    bk wrote: »
    Why are bus coaches in Ireland limited to 100km/h.

    <snip>

    After all much the same coaches on generally inferior roads in the UK are limited to 70mph which is 113km/h.

    In the UK Passenger Carrying Vehicles are physically limited to 100kph but their road speed limit is lower at 60mph.

    The 70mph/112kph speed limit is only applicable to goods vehicles under 7.5tonnes but most goods vehicles over 3.5tonnes are now limited to 56mph/90kph

    We should just have you renamed as Mr. Wrong. Everything you post is incorrect.

    bk is right, the UK limit on motorways for bus/coach is70mph.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    Apologies to BK as i was partly wrong and the speed limit on motorways for Coaches is 70mph as was stated.

    http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Roadsafetyadvice/DG_178867?CID=TAT&PLA=url_mon&CRE=speed_limits

    part of my post is correct though and those same coaches if registered from 1988 must have limiters restricting their top speed to 100kph

    http://www.dvlni.gov.uk/Freedom%20of%20Information/Heavy%20Vehicle%20Inspection%20Manual/Speed%20limiter.pdf


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,186 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    DVLNI != DVLA

    NI has its own regulations for motor transport.


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