Partworn Tyres Limerick,

Jammy Donut

Hi Guys,

First off I don't want to start a debate about Partworns....


Anyway looking for partworns 215/45/17 branded names not ditch finders, Anyone know the best place in Limerick City or County that can fit them for a decent price?


Also want a professional place as there going on polished alloys.


Cheers,
Jammy Donut.

colm_mcm

Mid west tyres in raheen do them now.

Jammy Donut

Anywhere else?

Tried him a while back and didn't have anything

colm_mcm

There's a place near the Garda station in roxboro

Also there's a place in smithstown in Shannon beside mc mahons furniture (not Tony's) that have a great selection of sizes

Cant remember who they are, they do recovery too.

Edit; smithstown auto repairs

bazz26

Tyre Stop on the Dock Road are advertising that they sell part worns.

lifer_sean

I got a good deal on some part worn tyres from Kenneth Ryan Tyres, on the main street in Patrickswell (opposite McDermott's Topaz filling station). Don't know if he would have 17's, but I got two 195/55x15 (one was brand new sold as part worn, one had 4mm tread), both michelins, for 65 euro.

He had 205/55x16s also (I was looking for some at the time), but don't know if he has 17's.

Jammy Donut

lifer_sean wrote: »

I got a good deal on some part worn tyres from Kenneth Ryan Tyres, on the main street in Patrickswell (opposite McDermott's Topaz filling station). Don't know if he would have 17's, but I got two 195/55x15 (one was brand new sold as part worn, one had 4mm tread), both michelins, for 65 euro.

He had 205/55x16s also (I was looking for some at the time), but don't know if he has 17's.

Cheers, Will try him and see can he sort me out.

Skuxx

bazz26 wrote: »

Tyre Stop on the Dock Road are advertising that they sell part worns.

Yeah tyre stop do them although they dont have a great selection!
Limerick tyre centre, in the old Fentons yard, just out past the co-op in Raheen seem to have a good selection! They're the only place that ever have part worn 18"s for my yoke!!

snowman707

bazz26 wrote: »

Tyre Stop on the Dock Road are advertising that they sell part worns.

am trying to remember where I say a sign it was either TYre Stop or Thomond Tyres ,

Blazer

alan1990 wrote: »

Limerick tyre centre, in the old Fentons yard, just out past the co-op in Raheen seem to have a good selection! They're the only place that ever have part worn 18"s for my yoke!!

yep..great lads out there..I've dealt with them the last few times and always found them great..

BIBENDUM

This topic is always being raised, with no definitive answer on either side of the argument. I usually stay away from these issues due to some users strongly defending their limited knowledge of the issue.

However, I contacted a few independent organisations; itia.ie - tyresafe.org - ntda.co.uk to get their opinion.:o

1st: Part Worn (whistle blower on the inside)
2nd: New Tyre Law November 2012

1st: Part worn tyres are not illegal to sell in Ireland. :rolleyes:

However, the Irish tyre industry is so very poorly regulated, that absolutely anyone can open and trade. You can even get a grant from the government AND NO TRAINING. None and I repeat none of these part worn tyres sold in Ireland are tested for the possible dangers associated with used tyres.

Here is how it works in Germany:

The tyres are collected by independent licensed "waste" collectors from dealers all over the country. The tyre dealer pays €2 for each car tyre collected and the paperwork is signed to show the waste is being disposed off legally and NOT dumped in the country or down a lane. The local co co follows up on this with fines of upto €50,000 for undocumented disposal.

Mainland Europe motorists do not show the same indifference as we have in Ireland to tyres. This is due to the many ADAC, TUV tyre comparison publications and clearly defined laws enforced. Not to mention the 2 seasons needing 2 sets of tyres. When motorists sell their cars, consumers don't want the second hand summer or winter tyres that come with the car, even if they look fine with loads of thread on them. They go in and buy new tyres.

The part worn tyres are graded into A, B & C stacked in outdoor yards stretching for 100,000 sqft+ in size.

Collected tyres are brought back for "grading". "A" graded tyres are usually very good with 7+mm remaining (Premium new 8mm -Budget new 6.5 - 7 mm). They come from fleet cars changing a tyre policy, police cars replace and don't repair punctured tyres and may even replace all 4 tyres to avoid handling differences with different thread depths, unwanted tyres separated form alloys and any tyres under 1 year old. You can tell the age of a tyre by the side wall, raised numbers 1112 in a circle meaning made in week 11 of year 2012. Many premium car sales companies have a high standard, approved used car scheme like Audi plus, where if 1 tyre was damaged, they would replace the other 3 good tyres for 4 new tyres
Or if the car had tyres not approved by the manufacturer, they would have to come off too! Even if the previous owner had bought 4 new tyres only a few weeks ago (Porsche - Audi - BMW Run Flats etc. These tyres too, are classified as waste tyres. Most of our Irish car dealers just put on any cheap asian muck to keep the price down for maximum profit. As you can guess, these tyres are in high demand and are sold to trade from €15 for a 10" tyre and from €55 for a 21 inch tyre. But most German Motorist do not want these tyres!

Remember, it only costs the waste collector labour to move the tyres around. He is getting €2 per tyre to cover his transport costs. The average cost of an A grade tyre to a waste collector is €1. Its a volume game so he sells these tyres for anything he wants.... THESE ARE NOT THE TYRES COMING TO IRELAND OR THE UK. They are like hens teeth and go to any market for maximum profit. Ireland will not pay the premium for these tyres as they can buy new chinese tyres for the same money.

As you figured out already. B grade (4-6mm) is just sourcing the next best with a very quick pressure test for the blooming obvious after a quick visual test for bead damage and side wall cuts. Remember, there are millions of tyres in these yards. These B grade tyres can be of any age (after 4 years, the oils in the tyre degrade causing the rubber to harden resulting in poor wet grip, brand, colour, speed rating, summer, winter, round and black. Some Irish dealers source these tyres for €4 + €1,500 carriage from Germany, Belgium etc. About 1,500 tyres, depending on the size fit into a 40" container. So the dealer is paying about €5 for a 13"to €9 for an 18". What are you paying for a part worn tyre? Remember again, the German motorists does not want these tyres. They are too well informed about the benefits of buying quality.

These tyres are sold for the most they can get for them. Ireland, the UK and Africa buy some of these tyres. As these tyres may have unseen damage, the container is only charged at 80% of its possible value to allow for some of these "tested" tyres being waste. This is happening more and more due many dealers from all over Europe and The Middle East all sourcing these tyres for their market from the same pot. Most markets have about 10% of motorists buying used tyres. Ireland is probably as high as the UK with up to 15% of the market using part worn. Again, these may not be the tyres you buy in Ireland.

C grade is just the left overs and is sold as waste per ton. Used for fuel to Blue circle cement for their ovens or sold as material for rubber mats. The metal in tyres is sold for scrap.

Ireland creates its own waste tyre too. About 2.5 million every year. These tyres too, are supposed to be collected by licensed collectors. Again most collectors are genuine, but there are licensed collectors small and large, collecting the tyres from garages and then grading the tyres themselves with no test other than the eye! The dealer is paying the contractor €2 to dispose of the tyres. It is 10000% profit for second hand dealers. This is why they can sell part worn tyres for €15 fitted in their house or small garage, with NO new valve, sometimes balanced, no warranty and no insurance. Michelin, Goodyear and Bridgestone here in Ireland say there is no one on the island trained or has equipment, to test car tyres as it should be done. These companies send their complaint tyres back to their factories in the UK returning a written letter to the consumer stating the reasons for a problem or compensation.

In summary, there are really excellent part worn tyres in Europe. You get what you pay for with cheap products and sometimes your lucky. But we are getting the lower grades. The profit on these tyres is huge compared to new tyres. There is no regulation in place as the Road Safety Authority, which advises the government, does not take a position on it. The revenue don't know that they are loosing millions of lost tax revenue as most of the dealers are black market. Part worn tyres can be safe, just not in Ireland. You take your life in your hands and that of other motorists, when you buy an unproven, unwarranted product, from a unregulated, untrained, uninsured, quick buck individuals.

There are better independents tyre dealers selling part worn tyres to try and subsidise their income due to the recession, but these dealers are also selling Chinese tyres and saying they are good. But consumers may buy them once for the price, but very few will again. Buy from good approved or accredited independents dealers offering quality.

2.New Tyres

New European Tyre Laws coming into force 1st July 1012 and again in November 2012 to help/educate consumers buy new tyres. All tyres must have this label. There a an EU independent body checking the tyres at random. Millions of euro fines will be handed out to any tyre company claiming false results. Even a 1 year in Europe could be on the cards. The education comes in the form of a label on the tyre itself with three categories for now. Log onto any tyre manufacturer website for the exact details.

Like buying a fridge or car, you will see how the product preforms in 3 categories. Rating is A for the best and G for the worst.

Fuel economy
An A rated tyre is 7.5% better on fuel than a G rated tyre. or €320 saving on fuel over the life of a tyre = price vs cost to run

Wet grip
An A rated tyre will stop 33 meters or 100 foot shorter than a G rated tyre when you hit the brakes at 50 mph / 80kph = crash or near miss

Road noise
This is a real euro standard. A 1 bar or 68 db is half the noise level of a 2 bar or 72db tyre. The UK spend billions every year trying to reduce noise pollution which causes stress for residents etc. Switzerland must have had a say here!

There you have it. The untrained back street guy is gone over the next few years. Huge fines will be in place for miss selling a tyre to the consumer!

colm_mcm

Read the opening post. This isn't a tyres debate.

Youve already posted that twice now.

mynoduesp

Hey yea, I got them over at ken ryan tyres in patrickswell limerick

this is his site there www.kenryantyres.com