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Survival library.

  • 23-06-2012 9:31am
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    Registered Users Posts: 563 ✭✭✭ bonniebede


    Sparked by a thought on another thread. (hat tip grapeape)

    Do you have a library of books or printouts which will be useful?

    Here's my begginning list, feel free to add. I haven't made it a bibliography, only indications to give the idea.

    Survival manuals:
    SAS
    Ray Mears Bushcraft

    Food growing:
    Charles Dowding, No dig Gardening, Salad for all seasons.
    Lasagna Gardening, lasagna gardening in small spaces.
    (THese books focus on getting a raised bed plot ready to go fast)
    Some other gardening.

    Food preservation
    Root cellaring
    Food preservation tips (in one of the gardening books)

    Foraging
    Collins gem books - food for free, mushrooms.
    Collins gem - Trees

    Medical
    Emergency and Wilderness first aid book

    Preserving the finer things in life
    Bible, CCC, Various Papal Documents, lifes of saints
    Koran, Bhagavad Gita, Book of Mormon
    Complete Shakespeare, Oscar WIlde, Austen, Georgette Heyer,
    Complete Laura Inglalls Wilder (great intro for kids to self sufficient living).
    Some sheet music (mostly piano or vocal)
    Encouraging survival stories - Unbroken, 117 days adrift, Kon Tiki and Ra expeditions, The long walk, Victor Frankls memoirs.
    Positive mental help - Feeling Good handbook

    Things I've clearly missed:
    Composting toilets and other sanitation info.
    More on food preserving.
    Instructions for several handy things which I know of from the net but should print out, like rocket stoves, simple wind turbine for water and wind power, how to build traps, info on how to butcher large animals, more home medicine stuff.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,739 ✭✭✭ mawk


    I stuck this in the sticky, but its worth double posting;

    an awful lot of interesting pdfs

    http://www.ps-survival.com/


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,115 ✭✭✭ ShadowFox


    Think i posted this on another thread but ill post it here also some good ideas some are a little out dated but its up to the reader what you take from it
    Its the full book in pdf format
    Preparedness.pdf


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,739 ✭✭✭ mawk


    thats very.. morman :eek:

    Is mormanism always part and parcel with survivalism or is it just this one group that made the book?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,526 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Tabnabs


    The Mormons are big into self sufficiency and there is a large crossover in areas of interest with survivalsim/prepping.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,739 ✭✭✭ mawk


    well I live and learn!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 563 ✭✭✭ bonniebede


    mawk wrote: »
    thats very.. morman :eek:

    Is mormanism always part and parcel with survivalism or is it just this one group that made the book?

    for historical reasons it was always a teaching of the mormons that everyone should have at least one years supply of food ready in case of disaster, for themselves and to help others. It fell into a bit of disuse in recent decades, but lately there has been a big revival of that teaching and more mormons are taking it seriously.

    In the states (not sure about elsewhere) the mormons have community canning facilities that any mormon can use to can food, typically in big cans rather than jars. (what we would call bottling but americans also call canning:confused:)

    There preparedness manual is where i started in terms of planning a storage food supply.(see 'stocking up at tesco's)


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,115 ✭✭✭ ShadowFox


    Here are some more pdf books that might be of use to someone ive others and some handy food prep /cook books but they arent in pdf so they wont upload :(
    Aids to Survival.pdf


    11 Steps to Survival - Canada Emergency Measurses Organization.pdf


    Be Your Own Bodyguard - Peaceful Paths.pdf


    Bushcraft (Canadian Scout Manual) - PO 403.pdf


    Common Sense Guide to Being Prepared - Time Magazine.pdf


  • Registered Users Posts: 428 ✭✭ wolfeye




  • Registered Users Posts: 59 ✭✭ Deerhound


    For anyone thinking of growing their own veg or keeping animals etc.
    The Complete Book of Self Sufficiency - John Seymour

    Medical
    Where there is no Doctor & Where there is no Dentist are two of a number of great books free to download from their publishers site.
    http://hesperian.org/books-and-resources/#tabs-downloads

    I will add some more at a later date.


  • Registered Users Posts: 563 ✭✭✭ bonniebede


    I got a new book, collins gem 'mushrooms' .easy to carry, great layout . illustrations and info.
    don't recommend eating anything just based on this, but it could be a great aid memoire before or after doing a mushroom identification day.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 194 ✭✭ syconerd


    i have over 5000 books on file and if anybody needs or wants some of my files i could arrange for them to copy them
    contact me and ill meet up and share any info they would ever need or want
    john


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 37,485 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Khannie


    Deerhound wrote: »
    For anyone thinking of growing their own veg or keeping animals etc.
    The Complete Book of Self Sufficiency - John Seymour

    Got an electronic copy of this. Looks very good. Certainly has lots of information about stuff that I want to learn about. Interesting foreword which argues that specialisation (which has resulted in all the good things we enjoy in life) has come at a cost of loss of basic skills (e.g. being able to grow your own food).


  • Registered Users Posts: 59 ✭✭ Deerhound


    Khannie wrote: »
    Got an electronic copy of this. Looks very good. Certainly has lots of information about stuff that I want to learn about. Interesting foreword which argues that specialisation (which has resulted in all the good things we enjoy in life) has come at a cost of loss of basic skills (e.g. being able to grow your own food).

    Glad you liked it.

    For anybody thinking about growing-your-own I got this recently and it looks good.
    Backyard Harvest: A year round guide to growin fruit and vegtables by Jo Whittingham

    @ Khannie; You can probably get this the same kind of place you got the other book.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 37,485 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Khannie


    I think the self sufficiency book is out of copyright. I wasn't looking for an electronic copy. Just googled and one popped up so thanks very much says I. I think I'll buy a paper copy though. It's the kind of thing that deserves a bit of paper. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 59 ✭✭ Deerhound


    Khannie wrote: »
    I think the self sufficiency book is out of copyright. I wasn't looking for an electronic copy. Just googled and one popped up so thanks very much says I. I think I'll buy a paper copy though. It's the kind of thing that deserves a bit of paper. :)

    I couldn't agree more. This where I got mine if it's any help,
    http://www.play.com/Books/Books/4-/10074541/The-New-Complete-Book-of-Self-Sufficiency/Product.html?searchstring=john+seymour&searchsource=0&searchtype=allproducts&urlrefer=search


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,526 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Tabnabs


    An interesting thread about the book here http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056409284


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 37,485 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Khannie


    Tabnabs wrote: »
    An interesting thread about the book here http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056409284

    Interesting stuff. Good to know, cheers. Might look around for other books so.


  • Registered Users Posts: 34 tc556guy


    syconerd wrote: »
    i have over 5000 books on file and if anybody needs or wants some of my files i could arrange for them to copy them
    contact me and ill meet up and share any info they would ever need or want
    john

    You still around the site to arrange sharing information?


  • Registered Users Posts: 437 ✭✭ lostboy75


    tc556guy wrote: »
    You still around the site to arrange sharing information?

    I am currently trying to come up with a folder system for what I have, it's quite time consuming, but will be worth it in the end I think. Don't have too many printed, mainly pdfs for now.have been talking to another poster here about sharing once I have sorted mine. I have about 2.5 gb, they have 16! So if I get there's I will be moving them into my folder system. Would be happy to share it either now or when it's 'filed' but be warned I don't tend to get much time at this these days, so might be quite a wait.


  • Registered Users Posts: 34 tc556guy


    lostboy75 wrote: »
    I am currently trying to come up with a folder system for what I have, it's quite time consuming, but will be worth it in the end I think. Don't have too many printed, mainly pdfs for now.have been talking to another poster here about sharing once I have sorted mine. I have about 2.5 gb, they have 16! So if I get there's I will be moving them into my folder system. Would be happy to share it either now or when it's 'filed' but be warned I don't tend to get much time at this these days, so might be quite a wait.

    I'll send you my organized collection of information if you send me what you have to add to my collection
    I'll need a snail mail address to send it to though, and you'll need to send the storage medium back so it can get passed on to others


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  • Registered Users Posts: 34 tc556guy


    Tried to edit last post but it wont let me for some reason
    This is a thumbdrive of prep information, primarily PDF, some Word docs, some video


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,769 ✭✭✭ my3cents


    lostboy75 wrote: »
    I am currently trying to come up with a folder system for what I have, it's quite time consuming, but will be worth it in the end I think. Don't have too many printed, mainly pdfs for now.have been talking to another poster here about sharing once I have sorted mine. I have about 2.5 gb, they have 16! So if I get there's I will be moving them into my folder system. Would be happy to share it either now or when it's 'filed' but be warned I don't tend to get much time at this these days, so might be quite a wait.

    I'd have around 15Gb in my current survival folder but if you were to add in the useful stuff from my Home Power folder, Woodworking folder and a few others then that would at least double again.

    I'd be interested to hear how you sort your stuff. I almost find it better to dump it all in one folder because then I don't forget it or loose it. When I start dividing stuff up into folders and sub-folders I tend to forget about things I've downloaded. Only this week I was looking for something only to stumble across the last ten years worth of Home Power magazine which I'd totally forgotten about.

    One system I started was an excel spread sheet and a web page (created the spread sheet first) listing all the files and linking to them. The advantage being the ability to add long descriptions but I never got around to finishing it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 34 tc556guy


    my3cents wrote: »
    I'd be interested to hear how you sort your stuff. I almost find it better to dump it all in one folder because then I don't forget it or loose it. When I start dividing stuff up into folders and sub-folders I tend to forget about things I've downloaded. Only this week I was looking for something only to stumble across the last ten years worth of Home Power magazine which I'd totally forgotten about.

    One system I started was an excel spread sheet and a web page (created the spread sheet first) listing all the files and linking to them. The advantage being the ability to add long descriptions but I never got around to finishing it.

    My collection is up to over 100 gigs of information
    Basic folders include alternative energy, animals domesticated, animals wild, clothing & textiles, communication, defense & offense, education & literature, equipment, food, gardening & agriculture, how to, hunting fishing and trapping, lists, medical, misc training, NBC, NGOs, non-military firearms, Preparing, Sanitation, Shelter, Skilled Trades, Survival Skills, Transportation, Water, Firearms. Within each folder and additional subfolders of various sizes.
    It's been a 5 year project


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭ laoch na mona


    for gardening in Ireland klaus laitenberger's books are a great resource

    on the finer things I've a lot of history and social theory stuff on my ereader which as well as history will be things worth keeping so if society goes full melt down we don't have to make the same mistakes again


  • Registered Users Posts: 437 ✭✭ lostboy75


    Hopefully this will display correctly, below is the concept of the folder system i am currently working on.
    the four main catagories are currently set, the sub folders inside them are more then likely the ones i will use, but will order them differently once i get all files filed.

    1. Food & Water
    1.1 Cookbooks
    1.2 Gardening, Farming, Homesteading, & Self Reliance
    1.2.1 Animals
    1.2.2 Plants
    1.2.3 Hunting Etc
    1.3 Preservation
    1.3.1 Guides
    1.3.2 Canning
    1.3.3 Drying Food
    2. Shelter
    2.1 Sanitation
    2.2 Fallout Shelters
    2.4 Survival Shelters
    2.3 Underground Shelters
    3. Equipment
    3.1 Medical
    3.1.1 Human
    3.1.2 Animal
    3.2 Transportation
    3.2.1 Bicycles
    3.4 Prepaired Packs
    4. Miscellany
    4.1 Guides
    4.1.1 Summer - Hot Climate - Desert
    4.1.2 Winter
    4.1.3 Skills
    4.2 How To Guides

    there are of course folders up there that i have absolutely no interest in, 2.2 Fallout Shelters for examole, but i hate deleting items...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,769 ✭✭✭ my3cents


    Thanks tc556guy and lostboy75 some food for thought, its unsurprisingly easy to find survival information, books and videos online but its another thing altogether to sort out what you have in an accessible manner.

    It should also be easier to exchange information with a well categorised system.


  • Registered Users Posts: 437 ✭✭ lostboy75


    The sharing was also very much on my mind when working this up. I wanted as few folders as possible while not compromising a users ability to find information.
    also I was finding that some of the collections I 'found' might have several different copes of the same documents, only its called something slight different each time. that and documents named in a cryptic way which meant you had no idea what was actually in the file. so I have gone to the effort of renaming the majority of the documents, which should help find what your after and with the added benefit of helping weed out duplicates.


  • Registered Users Posts: 34 tc556guy


    lostboy75 wrote: »
    The sharing was also very much on my mind when working this up. I wanted as few folders as possible while not compromising a users ability to find information.
    also I was finding that some of the collections I 'found' might have several different copes of the same documents, only its called something slight different each time. that and documents named in a cryptic way which meant you had no idea what was actually in the file. so I have gone to the effort of renaming the majority of the documents, which should help find what your after and with the added benefit of helping weed out duplicates.

    I see we've run into some of the same issues

    I've found it's impossible to go the minimalist approach on folders as the collection grows.

    I choose to re-name the file with its published name, within the character limits of extended file names.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,769 ✭✭✭ my3cents


    lostboy75 wrote: »
    The sharing was also very much on my mind when working this up. I wanted as few folders as possible while not compromising a users ability to find information.
    also I was finding that some of the collections I 'found' might have several different copes of the same documents, only its called something slight different each time. that and documents named in a cryptic way which meant you had no idea what was actually in the file. so I have gone to the effort of renaming the majority of the documents, which should help find what your after and with the added benefit of helping weed out duplicates.

    In many cases I put each file in its own sub-folder and give the folder the long title and keep the original cryptic title on the file. The advantage for me of keeping the original file name is I can check if I already have the file which saves on bandwidth on my limited speed connection.

    To throw a spanner in the works I also separate out some files according to file type. I can't see the point of having a 650Mb video of about bomb shelters in the same folder as a 650Kb ebook file about building bomb shelters. I try and get videos out in their own set of folders and ebooks in another.

    Of course provided you keep the same drive letters on your USB drives which is fairly easy you can keep one central set of category folders and sub-folders and put links into any larger file you have moved out.

    Another category I have is just Magazines, I can't resist torrenting the latest survival mags :o

    One thing I do occasionally is to run this little batch file in the root of the folder or drive with all the sub-folders and files
    DIR /B /s > list.txt
    pause
    

    Just create a txt file and rename it as a batch (.bat) file copy in the code and run it. It lists all the files and folders you have in a file named list.txt in the same folder as the batch file. Obviously you can change the switches on the DIR command to provide other information if required.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 437 ✭✭ lostboy75


    thats exacly how i was going to attempt starting the index!
    its very usefuly to know


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