Galway Renault Closing down

cfeeneyinterior

Curleys yesterday; Renault today. http://www.galwaynews.ie/26376-21-job-losses-galway-city-renault-branch

biko

Another one bites the dust

dr.fuzzenstein

Ennis closing as well, heard it on the news on Today FM yesterday. The end of the scrappage deal hit them hard i guess.
But just as we can't expect that the building boom will return, we can't expect everyone to buy a car every three years.
If the garages and the greens had their way, cars would be bought new, sold on 2-3 times max and scrapped at 10 years of age.
Insane, can't work, won't work. Go to most other European countries and you will see cars with a much higher average age, because the greens here where in the pockets of the car "industry" in this country. hence the scrappage deal and difficulty in insuring anything that isn't a Focus or Corolla and older than 10 years.

galwaytt

FFS, another testament to the legacy of the Green's.

dr.fuzzenstein

galwaytt wrote: »

FFS, another testament to the legacy of the Green's.

Well, they got what they want, everyone has a shiny new car and petrol is at dizzying heights. If only now everything could be taxed at 80% and everything else banned, they will have achieved everything they set out to do. Here's their plan:
1: Tax everything/Ban everything
2: ???
3: Profit!

L-M

Sad sight!

OssianSmyth

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

the greens here where in the pockets of the car "industry" in this country. hence the scrappage deal...

galwaytt wrote: »

FFS, another testament to the legacy of the Green's.

How are the Greens responsible for car dealerships closing and at the same time 'in the pockets of the car industry'? Did the car industry pay the Greens to shut their dealerships?

New cars sold in band A or band B:
2007 18%
May 2012 92%

What should the current government do differently now on car policy? Were they right to have stopped the scrappage? The Greens haven't been in office for more than a year now.

galwaytt

OssianSmyth wrote: »

How are the Greens responsible for car dealerships closing and at the same time 'in the pockets of the car industry'? Did the car industry pay the Greens to shut their dealerships?

New cars sold in band A or band B:
2007 18%
May 2012 92%

What should the current government do differently now on car policy? Were they right to have stopped the scrappage? The Greens haven't been in office for more than a year now.

...if you don't understand that the Greens completely destroyed the car market, by interfering with VRT and motor tax rates, which completely distorted the car market, and wiping 10's of 1,000's of Euro's of cars bought by anyone pre Jan 1 2008 (I included, in April 2007 btw), then frankly you don't know what you're on about.

Outside of car taxes (mini-hijack), as someone involved in the Energy Efficiency business, then I can tell you some of the measures they introduced in their tenure have decimated other industries, and worse, have been counter-productive (as witnessed by SEAI reports just out).

And as for the fraud that is 'Carbon Tax'...........don't get me started.

Actually, read my sig instead...

Captain Slow IRL

I was just reading an article on how Renault were pulling dealerships, left, right and centre all over the UK - some were remaining as servicing centres and some lost all affiliation.

Leaving the market over to the Chinese vehicles they expect to flood in in the very near future!

galwaytt

Captain Slow IRL wrote: »

Leaving the market over to the Chinese vehicles they expect to flood in in the very near future!

O.M.F.G. Then that truly will be The End.

I'm going back to train sets......

L-M

galwaytt wrote: »

...if you don't understand that the Greens completely destroyed the car market, by interfering with VRT and motor tax rates, which completely distorted the car market, and wiping 10's of 1,000's of Euro's of cars bought by anyone pre Jan 1 2008 (I included, in April 2007 btw), then frankly you don't know what you're on about.

Outside of car taxes (mini-hijack), as someone involved in the Energy Efficiency business, then I can tell you some of the measures they introduced in their tenure have decimated other industries, and worse, have been counter-productive (as witnessed by SEAI reports just out).

And as for the fraud that is 'Carbon Tax'...........don't get me started.

Actually, read my sig instead...

Thatvwas four years ago, move on!

People cant get money anymore and nor will they spend what they have, that is whats holding it back

dr.fuzzenstein

Limerick man wrote: »

Thatvwas four years ago, move on!

People cant get money anymore and nor will they spend what they have, that is whats holding it back

Well, I believe they are somewhat to blame, even now.
By introducing the scrappage scheme, they introduced an expectation that cars should not be older than ten years.
I.e. car gets bought, sold on once or maximum twice and then scrapped and then replaced with shiny, new one.
And the Irish (attitude: New and shiny Yaris is ALWAYS better than a 10 year old BMW) fell for it big time.
It's only now that people don't have money to scrap cars every ten years and are forced to drive them for longer.
And the dealers bought into the whole thing wholesale.
I'm just back from Germany and even now the average age of cars on the road is far older than here. This was especially evident in around '06, I would go back and think "Wow, look at all these bangers driving around!"

I don't know why the greens think that the lifespan for cars should be 10 years, it should be obvious to a moron that that level of turnover is simply idiotic and helps no one except the car industry.
As far as petrols are concerned, as long as they have a three way cat, no significant improvement can be made in emissions (when taking manufacturing into account) by changing a 15 year old, well maintained car for a brand spanking new one.
Diesels are different, an old one wouldn't have a DPF and give out about them all you want, but they are better for the people around us, especially in cities.

ThisRegard

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

Diesels are different, an old one wouldn't have a DPF and give out about them all you want, but they are better for the people around us, especially in cities.

They don't have to be old not to have DPFs.

L-M

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

Well, I believe they are somewhat to blame, even now.
By introducing the scrappage scheme, they introduced an expectation that cars should not be older than ten years.
I.e. car gets bought, sold on once or maximum twice and then scrapped and then replaced with shiny, new one.
And the Irish (attitude: New and shiny Yaris is ALWAYS better than a 10 year old BMW) fell for it big time.
It's only now that people don't have money to scrap cars every ten years and are forced to drive them for longer.
And the dealers bought into the whole thing wholesale.
I'm just back from Germany and even now the average age of cars on the road is far older than here. This was especially evident in around '06, I would go back and think "Wow, look at all these bangers driving around!"

I don't know why the greens think that the lifespan for cars should be 10 years, it should be obvious to a moron that that level of turnover is simply idiotic and helps no one except the car industry.
As far as petrols are concerned, as long as they have a three way cat, no significant improvement can be made in emissions (when taking manufacturing into account) by changing a 15 year old, well maintained car for a brand spanking new one.
Diesels are different, an old one wouldn't have a DPF and give out about them all you want, but they are better for the people around us, especially in cities.

There are still plenty, and plenty of ten year old and older cars around. Anyone who didn't want to change their car/couldn't afford to didn't, anyone who could just about afford to or actually wanted to change their car took the opportunity. Getting 4,500 for your 00 Yaris against a new one wasn't to be sniffed at, it was a good chance to change and people took it.

Admittedly, i cried at some of the perfect cars that were scrapped, but still, it took alot of ****e off the roads, too. if nobody bought new cars, where would we get our used cars from? That's 09 was such a bad year for cars, bigger ones mostly, that people have to resort to importing, ie. sending our money out of the country.

North Cork

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/cullen-to-close-renault-dealerships-3145642.html

TWO of Bill Cullen's Renault dealerships are to close with the loss of 29 jobs.

Citygate Motors, on the Tuam Road in Galway, and Citygate Motors, on the Galway Road in Ennis, Co Clare, are to close their doors from July 2.
The arrangement between the car giant and the high-profile businessman, best known for his role on Ireland's version of 'The Apprentice', is said to have been terminated by "mutual agreement". Both sides refused to comment further when contacted by the Irish Independent yesterday.

Twenty of the jobs will be lost in Galway and the remaining nine in Ennis.
Mr Cullen's two remaining Renault dealerships, in Dublin's Liffey Valley and the Airside Retail Park in Swords, will continue to operate. There are some 60 staff members employed in the Dublin operations.

A joint statement said Renault would separately announce plans to distribute Renault vehicles and parts "in the areas previously serviced by the Bill Cullen Motor Group".

Mr Cullen has been involved with Renault since 1986 when he took over the distribution franchise from Waterford Crystal. He claims to have delivered sales for Renault amounting to €3bn for the last 20 years.
Mr Cullen and his partner Jackie Lavin bought the luxurious Muckross Park Hotel and Cloisters Spa in Co Kerry in 1990. The hotel has been suffering sustained losses.

He was also involved with Forest Healthcare, a residential treatment centre, which went into liquidation last year.

The entrepreneur has been involved with 'The Apprentice' for four series, but TV3 announced last month that it was axing the show.
- Colm Kelpie
Irish Independent
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christmas2012

dreadful loss for that local economy not a lot of people are buying new cars or even changing their second hand ones for more recent second hand ones..

the groutch

looks like his golden apples have gone pear-shaped.

Connacht

As a Renault owner, I got a letter in the post today announcing this (one month later !). Anyway, they enclosed the full list of Renault dealers in Ireland and there's none left in Connacht at all.
Only 3 in Dublin and 21 in whole country ...

L-M

Connacht wrote: »

As a Renault owner, I got a letter in the post today announcing this (one month later !). Anyway, they enclosed the full list of Renault dealers in Ireland and there's none left in Connacht at all.
Only 3 in Dublin and 21 in whole country ...

What year car have you got? Did you get all the servicing and maintenance done there?

Connacht

Mine is 07 and no, I never went there for services (apart from the frist one maybe), too far from me.
It doesn't really make any diff to me, I was just commenting on how Renault seems to be very thin on the ground with dealers.

Anan1

christmas2012 wrote: »

dreadful loss for that local economy not a lot of people are buying new cars or even changing their second hand ones for more recent second hand ones..

That depends. If the locals are spending their money on locally-produced goods and services instead of on imported cars then that's much better for the local economy. Bad for the French, though.

dr.fuzzenstein

Anan1 wrote: »

That depends. If the locals are spending their money on locally-produced goods and services instead of on imported cars then that's much better for the local economy. Bad for the French, though.

That. +1
If you're on the continent you will also notice the average age of cars is a lot higher.
That is due to no year on the reg, people being less snobby about their cars, insurances not being so incredibly ignorant towards older vehicles, maybe this is due to a culture of minding cars, servicing them when due and fixing what needs fixing, rather than just drive the bejaysus out of them for 3-5 years and then say "Jaysus, she's starting to fall apart, first service is nearly due, better sell her"

jimbobaloobob

So where do you go now if you have a renault for service? Only passed Renault garage yesterday to realise its cleaned out.

peking97

Mine is still under Renault warranty and I got a letter from them advising that I should use authorized Renault dealers only.

el pasco

galwaytt wrote: »

...if you don't understand that the Greens completely destroyed the car market, by interfering with VRT and motor tax rates, which completely distorted the car market, and wiping 10's of 1,000's of Euro's of cars bought by anyone pre Jan 1 2008 (I included, in April 2007 btw), then frankly you don't know what you're on about.

Outside of car taxes (mini-hijack), as someone involved in the Energy Efficiency business, then I can tell you some of the measures they introduced in their tenure have decimated other industries, and worse, have been counter-productive (as witnessed by SEAI reports just out).

And as for the fraud that is 'Carbon Tax'...........don't get me started.

Actually, read my sig instead...

How did the Greens destroy the car market??
People only buy a car if they need one and have the money simple
The downturn in the economy and more relaible cars meant people no longer need to keep changing there cars as often

Secondly the Co2 tax was a European law as its now law all over the EU so nothing got to do with the greens

L-M

Please start a new thread, don't dig up old ones

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