Bike Shed Security

lennymc

Im expecting delivery of a log cabin type thing in a couple of weeks, and will be storing bikes in it. Im looking for suggestions for secuirity for the bikes. I have a few ideas, that Id rather not go into online, but any other suggestions are welcome. It will be alaramed and I have dogs.

Thanks
Lenny

com1

If the door hinge or lock screws are visible replace them with 'big' coach bolts (and if you are doing that remember to put washers on too!). If the lock is a bolt lock you would probably be as well replacing that for a sturdier version...

Jawgap

A log cabin??? Are you Grizzly Adams or something?

How about security lights? Although that just may help the scroats break into it.

I have [most] of my bikes in a good garden shed, and even there they are locked together - it won't stop the really determined thief, but it may slow them down a bit or make them think about going elsewhere.

Finally, is the cabin alarmed because it is being forced to live in Drogheda, or is there another reason :D:D

lennymc

its alarmed so i know if someone is raiding the beer fridge. Although that will have a seperate alarm altogether, along with retinal scanner, voice recognition, fingerprint and secure code access only.

The windows and doors have multipoint locking on them, im more looking at securing the bikes once they are inside. All suggestions welcome, but ill not tell yis what way i ultimately secure them, just in case jawgap decides to pay me a visit!!

Squidgy Black

I'd just stick a u-lock through them, not many thiefs that break into houses would think of bringing hacksaws and angle grinders, it tends to be a quick crowbar/lock picks/hammer and chisel. It'd be enough to deter them, it tends to be a case they want to get in and out asap.

route66

Maybe a sign outside saying that the shed is alarmed?

And a clearly visible sign inside the shed stating all serial numbers recorded with Gardai

Jawgap

lennymc wrote: »

its alarmed so i know if someone is raiding the beer fridge. Although that will have a seperate alarm altogether, along with retinal scanner, voice recognition, fingerprint and secure code access only.

The windows and doors have multipoint locking on them, im more looking at securing the bikes once they are inside. All suggestions welcome, but ill not tell yis what way i ultimately secure them, just in case jawgap decides to pay me a visit!!

by the way - this alarm........


.......does it detect smoke:pac:

kincsem

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GARAGE-SHED-CARAVAN-INDOOR-DIGITAL-SECURITY-ALARM-SIREN-/320837774720?pt=UK_Burglar_Alarms&hash=item4ab36bed80#ht_2291wt_1270

Lumen

This is what I do...

Ladder under raised floor of shed. Heavy chain through small hole in floor, around ladder, back through hole in floor. Chain locked to bike frame. Other bikes locked to that bike.

Theft of bikes would require use of angle grinders or smashing shed to many pieces. Ladder cannot be cut without making very large hole in floor.

07Lapierre

One of these under the bed! ( Remember to fire a warning shot First)

Beasty

So you need to kidnap the Lumen family cat, put it up a tree, wait for him to get the ladders out - once he's up them trying to rescue it, nip in the shed and nick his bikes ...

awec

Lumen wrote: »

This is what I do...

Ladder under raised floor of shed. Heavy chain through small hole in floor, around ladder, back through hole in floor. Chain locked to bike frame. Other bikes locked to that bike.

Theft of bikes would require use of angle grinders or smashing shed to many pieces. Ladder cannot be cut without making very large hole in floor.

How do you secure the chain to the bike frame? Presumably there'd be a lock of some kind, which introduces a weak point.

Lumen

awec wrote: »

How do you secure the chain to the bike frame? Presumably there'd be a lock of some kind, which introduces a weak point.

I use the lock which came with the chain (Trelock). It's substantial. I've no idea whether the lock is stronger or weaker than the chain.

I can't think of any way of making it more secure without being a massive inconvenience. I'm not tunneling under the shed Great Escape style to get at the padlock every time I want to get the bike out.

Lumen

Beasty wrote: »

So you need to kidnap the Lumen family cat, put it up a tree, wait for him to get the ladders out - once he's up them trying to rescue it, nip in the shed and nick his bikes ...

I have removed all nearby trees as a precaution.

Redjeep!

As an alternative to what Lumen does, when you're assembling the shed, why not sink a ground anchor underneath it and lead your big chain through a hole in the floor and then through that.

You can either buy something specially designed from a motorbike shop like this:

http://www.yanchor.com/

or else as you're building the foundations, dig a big hole and fill it with concrete with a big enough tube going through it to feed your chain through.

Jawgap

lennymc wrote: »

its alarmed so i know if someone is raiding the beer fridge. Although that will have a seperate alarm altogether, along with retinal scanner, voice recognition, fingerprint and secure code access only.

The windows and doors have multipoint locking on them, im more looking at securing the bikes once they are inside. All suggestions welcome, but ill not tell yis what way i ultimately secure them, just in case jawgap decides to pay me a visit!!

On reflection, I think your bikes should be ok - if the typical oik from Drogheda breaks in and sees a load of bikes and a fridge full of beer - wanna guess what he's going to go for?

Keep it stocked with Dutch Gold and the bikes will be safe:)

Hanley

How about locking it tO a couple of 40kg kettlebells?!

Keep_Her_Lit

I keep my kettle in the kitchen.

It switches itself automatically and therefore doesn't need a bell.

And even if it did, why on earth would it need to weigh 40kg?!

FYI, this is the cycling forum and people here don't like heavy things. Using terms such as "40kg" may cause unnecessary distress to some members. Please desist. Discussion of weights up to 10kg is acceptable, though sub-8kg is preferable.

Lumen

Hanley wrote: »

How about locking it tO a couple of 40kg kettlebells?!

How much would two 40kg kettlebells cost?

Scuba_Scoper

To offer a slightly different opinion.

If the alleged scroat has made it past the 9 ft wall, broken/hacked through the shed door, removed the locks/chain by whatever means neccessary - got the bikes back out over the 9 ft wall and into his waiting van - the cunning stunt is welcome to them.....they would be sorely missed - but then again that's what house insurance is for, n'est pas??

Make all reasonable efforts to secure yourself and your property, but a scroats gonna do what a scroats gonna do.

Useless anecdote time.
Friend of a friend had a CBR900 Fireblade (motorbike ) locked to a secure post with heavy chain, inside a brick shed with a metal door. German shepherd in the garden with 12 foot (I kid you not) wall around garden. Guy arrives home to find that a torch had been used on the door to get to the bike and it was gone, and the dog was dead.

gman2k

The FireBlade was stolen to order I'd say, probably for a bank job or a hit....
It won't be recovered intact.
Similar thefts happen with high end Impezzas and Evos, as no Garda cars can touch them for getaways.
I know of a few Imprezzas stolen with unreal security setups. One car was worth over 100k, and was used for a jewellery store break in.
Push bikes will not see the same dedicated thieves attempting to steal them. An alarm, good large dog, and securely locked bike will ensure it stays put.

Jawgap

Lumen wrote: »

How much would two 40kg kettlebells cost?

Cost is irrelevant - @lennymc probably couldn't lift them into the shed anyway:D

Lumen

gman2k wrote: »

I know of a few Imprezzas stolen with unreal security setups. One car was worth over 100k

I would debate the semantics of "worth". :pac:

Hanley

KBs are about €2 a kg.

40kg was just a suggestion as its the heaviest available. Even a couple of 16-24kg KBs would be sufficiently mothertrucking awkward to make it not worth it.

...or just take the pragmatic approach and built a moat and fill it with electric eels.

Re: bikes -v- cars/motorbikes - are there many people breaking in to rob bikes?! I'd have thought the latter had a big resale market, the former not so much and that it was more of a crime of opportunity?!

Rovi

Hanley wrote: »

40kg was just a suggestion as its the heaviest available.

Ahem!:
https://www.strengthshop.co.uk/kettlebells/cast-iron-kettlebells/strength-shop-kettlebell-64kg.html

Jawgap

Rovi wrote: »

Ahem!:
https://www.strengthshop.co.uk/kettlebells/cast-iron-kettlebells/strength-shop-kettlebell-64kg.html

Out of curiority I checked......

£50 to ship to Ireland

Hanley

Rovi wrote: »

Ahem!:
https://www.strengthshop.co.uk/kettlebells/cast-iron-kettlebells/strength-shop-kettlebell-64kg.html

Are we really gonna play this game? I can't believe you've made me go look for a 90kg kettlebell...

http://www.amazon.com/200-Lb-Wide-Handle-Kettlebell/dp/B0046CEBSA

Maybe I shoulda said "heaviest typically available in Ireland" :D

awec

Jawgap wrote: »

Out of curiority I checked......

£50 to ship to Ireland

Poor postman!

Jawgap

awec wrote: »

Poor postman!

Imagine the thump it would make when it came through the letter box!

lennymc

so, i need to buy an evo, lock it to the dog, while the guard cbr drinks dutch gold, all the time watching the cat, who is sitting on the wall, use his torch to look for the trees that have been cut down, when waiting for the kettle bell to boil.

Sorted

Hanley

...yeah or just don't buy pretty things. You basically deserve to have it stolen if you have something nicer than someone else.

Jordan537

A big bucket of concrete with a strong metal chain sunk into the concrete. Cheaper than buying kettlebells.

gman2k

Lumen wrote: »

I would debate the semantics of "worth". :pac:

Ok, I know of Imprezzas that cost over 100k...:pac: