Can't find a job in Dublin, losing hope.

Liinniejj

Hello,

This is the first time I post here so sorry if I post it at the wrong place but I was wondering if anyone has some tips or help/advice for me.

Last year august I came to ireland for a job at Xerox and my boyfriend who is Irish. At December i had to quit that job as it was making me depressive. Tried working for TotalFundraising a base wage + commision street fundraising job but I am obviously not the type for that appeared.

Now since then I have send out by e-mail and handed out by hand in stores about 300/400 cv's since end of Januari and only one interview at google nonetheless... however i did great i got refused on the last interview without them having any feedback( I asked).

By now I am really losing hope and am feeling incredibly guilty that my boyfriend has been paying for every bill and all the grocerys etc all alone and I can't do a thing about it.

I have been trying to find a reschooling course or something without fee's as I don't have any money to pay any tuition but no succes. Any internships I have applied for were unsuccesfull as well.

I'm originally from holland and don't know all the irish systems 100% yet so if anyone knows anything that I might have missed and/or could help me in any way I would very much appreciate it! Even a parttime job would be fine with me to start with... just anything.


Greetings

kneemos

You are allowed to claim social welfare when your looking for a job.

Liinniejj

Yes I know but it's not that much and I don't want to be sitting on my arse at home I want to get into a job or something. This endless hunt without results is taking me down too much and needs to end.

edellc

so is life in Ireland at the minute, what is it like in Holland would love to move there and it has to be better than here, beautiful county btw, love love love it

As for the xerox job, I take it you where full time but do you really think that another job doing the same hours is going to any more fun than xerox?? its what is happening at the moment most employers at this stage are expecting you to work you fingers to the bone and do more than what your employed to do, but not to moan about it and be grateful that you have a job...its the reality of this recession and its only going to get worse with this years budget

IMO you should start the claim for job seekers that way you at least have some income, and join a recruitment agency, also only give cv's to those looking for staff and always follow up with a phone call, and speak to the manager where possible if its just going into shops....

As for college there are plenty of courses however they cost money, if you are on social welfare you can do a fas course or back to education course while getting assistance, the system is there to help so let it help you

try not get too depressed about the situation as other than what you are doing there isnt a whole lot else you can do, the government is not encouraging job creation and all we seem to be doing is saying yes to everything europe wants yet all it does at the moment is kick us when we are down and tie the handcuffs tighter, so hang in there is not going to get better anytime soon, idiots running the country and all that- same as the last bunch and no one thinking outside the box...but it is what it is and all we can do is have a bit of hope and keep putting one foot in front of the other

peace and love op x

Liinniejj

yh the goverment is indeed not caring much for this country even i've seen it and i'm not even here a year yet!! that last treaty is a perfect example of that... paying dept with more dept....


And I don't expect any xerox similair job to be any better. i quited back then when i still had the confidence that my retail shop experien ce from holland was alot and would easy get me into a shop as shopassistant or something in that direction.... I have been proven wrong.
CPL and have had interview with google without succes unfortunatly and hp paypal symantic have not even bothered replying back to my application.



As for your question... well holland is pretty and there is whole lot less trouble for me to get a job there in retail (going back is no option btw) I am not sure what your sector is but i foresee bad economie happening very soon there. as holland didn't even bring the vote to the people... not a good sign of my goverment anyway...

To be honest at this point im happy if i can even just get a job of picking up garbarge or whatnot..

edellc

yeah we really are up sh*t creek with worse to come so happy days

I see your point about your home country and think it will be a domino effect across Europe so better the devil you know than the devil you dont I suppose

yeah retail has taken a hard knock, with rising rents (yes they are still rising in a bloody recession) and people having no money to go shopping its a disaster waiting to happen or should I say it is happening as we speak.

As for rubbish collection even that is hard going what with the company panda going up in flames literally last week and 250 people left with no jobs so even rubbish collection is finding it tough :eek:

I do think your best bet is signing on and looking into a educational course to retrain in something - think green its the future

im in accountancy, or office admin, or reception or retail assistant, worked in all of the named and have the qualifications to prove it but still finding it hard as i dont have a language other than english and really cant learn one useless at that was even terrible at irish and we got taught that in school for 14years lol

Liinniejj

hehe edelic i know what you mean with being rubbish at learning new langauges haha
In holland it is mandatory to pass dutch english and french/german(one of the two later) to even get off highschool. Yet i managed to find away around so i only had dutch and english as english never been any issue to me.

I guess a course is my only option however i have heard that some/most of the FAS courses end up leaving people with still barely any new skills learned. I also don't see how I am supposed to build up any experience in 1 sector to get more options/chances if i end up know little of all but nothing more of anything.

and what courses etc would be adviced?

Oleander

I have been off work for ages and recently posted that it has been getting me down as well. I'm going to go and talk to a placement officer this week at a volunteer centre, to get out and mix with other people and do something decent with my time. For maybe two days a week I'm hoping it will lead to a job (dream on I hear people say) and hopefully some new skills. Maybe think about doing that while you keep looking for work.

Liinniejj

part time volunteerwork? how would i get into that or where? I have applyed in several charity shops as well as volunteer not too long ago but they were all over staffed already

Oleander

There is a national website www.volunteer.ie, you choose your area and you can see online what sort of volunteering opportunities there are. I don't know what I would do or if you get a choice but I'm definitely willing to try something different to get some new skills - I've been looking for a career change for ages so I'm hoping this will give me an idea of what I would like to do. It might help me decide to do a course on something and then take it from there. I've thought the same, in that, the volunteer centres might have enough people because there are so many people out of work with spare time, but I have to try.

yellowlabrador

With your skills, have you thought of working from home for Amazon?. You'd need a good internet connection. Another thing you could do is freelance translating or maybe tour guide. You must play on your language skills. Good luck, it's very hard out there but you do have some very valuable skills. I'd also get my name down at a recruitment agency, I used to pick up quite a bit of short term secretarial work with my languages.

Liinniejj

yellowlabrador wrote: »

With your skills, have you thought of working from home for Amazon?. You'd need a good internet connection. Another thing you could do is freelance translating or maybe tour guide. You must play on your language skills. Good luck, it's very hard out there but you do have some very valuable skills. I'd also get my name down at a recruitment agency, I used to pick up quite a bit of short term secretarial work with my languages.

i have once seen a add off from home working for amazon trough a facebook add but I didn't trust it. So that is real?

I have my cv out at CPL langauge and any other sector low entry level but i've been rejected in the final stages of the option/offers so far

newuser30

St Vincent De Paul are looking for volunteers for their shops I think. It is incredibly hard to get employment at the moment and it is so disheartening to get constant rejection and often not even an email to say you were unsuccessful. It is unbelievable how a job you would of walked into 5 years ago now wont even bother sending a rejection email. At this point it is best to stop looking for work and look into doing a course, or the volunteering.

Mrs OBumble

kneemos wrote: »

You are allowed to claim social welfare when your looking for a job.

But if you are living with a partner who is working, then you will get little if any payment!

That said, OP you should register with Welfare anyway:

1) to be eligible for FAS courses (yes, some are rubbish, some aren't though), and
2) for pension credits (you don't care now, you might when you're old).

Mrs OBumble

Liinniejj wrote: »

I have my cv out at CPL langauge and any other sector low entry level but i've been rejected in the final stages of the option/offers so far

These days, if you get to the final stages, it means you were good enough to be employed - just not lucky enough to have been chosen that time around.

You just need to keep trying, there IS a job for you.

Liinniejj

JustMary wrote: »

But if you are living with a partner who is working, then you will get little if any payment!

That said, OP you should register with Welfare anyway:

1) to be eligible for FAS courses (yes, some are rubbish, some aren't though), and
2) for pension credits (you don't care now, you might when you're old).

This is indeed why i didn't see it important because my boyfriend is earning descent salary and i've seen i would get as good as nothing so i didn't look at it anymore but if thats how to get those fas courses everyone is recommending i will.

Those fas courses btw do they decide wich ones i should take or can i get a list and pick one or something. I assume i need to register at welfare and fas seperatly. I will also register myself at that volunteercentre and again hoping for the best... tho still not exactly having much hope left...

Then to think before i came to ireland i worked for years without even taking a week off for holiday and now unemployed for 6 months already :eek:

monkeypants

What are you telling prospective employers regarding your departure from Xerox? I'm interview at least one person each day and I'm going through CVs in detail and it's amazing how little thought some people put in to explain job/career moves.

Liinniejj

monkeypants wrote: »

What are you telling prospective employers regarding your departure from Xerox? I'm interview at least one person each day and I'm going through CVs in detail and it's amazing how little thought some people put in to explain job/career moves.

About my departure from Xerox i always make clear that i left there due to limited chance to show own initiative and wanting to find somewhere where i can learn more new things. I wanted to move on to gain new different skills and experiences.

Liinniejj

Anyone any suggestions as to wich FAS courses i should look for? I have printed out the jobseekers benefit form and filled it in and one of you said to do in order to be able to get the fas courses. But before I head into the welfare office and to FAS I'd like to know a bit what to look for.

mcbobbyb

You could get a job as a dutch/English speaking call support. They are crying out for dutch. Google dutch technical support CPL. The give you all the training that you would need. Work a try anyway.

vitani

Have you asked somebody to proofread your CV and cover letter before sending it out? Maybe a couple of improvements there could increase your chances of getting called to interview.

Liinniejj

@Vitani: Yes I have had my CV proofread and inproved with help of CPL

@Mcbobbyb: I know that is exactly what I am doing. However google declined me at the final and last interview without any feedback (yes i asked for the feedback). And serveral others are not responding as thus far but i keep resending my cv regulary to get my name in their sight. Unfortunatly I am limited in these jobs as many are not doable for me to get withpublic transport.

freeze4real

you have something that 90%of Irish people don't have that's a 2nd language.

Apply to eBay or PayPal or large multinational companies like mcrosoft.

Keep applying every week and They will give you a call.

janullrich

I would advise you to use your Dutch. I agree with the last point. Having a 2nd language is a great advantage. Ok it may not get you a great paying job but its something. I speak fluent German and had a appitude test for a company last week and they have now called me for a interview this week. I tried to start my own company but it it was was knocking down walls getting anywhere. It is no wonder the country is the way it is when the govt don't bother to encourage job creation or starting your own business and people like auctioneers or estate agents make it impossible to do business. FAS and Social Welfare are a joke to deal with. If nothing happens I will seriously think of moving back to Germany.

chattycatty

janullrich wrote: »

I would advise you to use your Dutch. I agree with the last point. Having a 2nd language is a great advantage. Ok it may not get you a great paying job but its something. I speak fluent German and had a appitude test for a company last week and they have now called me for a interview this week. I tried to start my own company but it it was was knocking down walls getting anywhere. It is no wonder the country is the way it is when the govt don't bother to encourage job creation or starting your own business and people like auctioneers or estate agents make it impossible to do business. FAS and Social Welfare are a joke to deal with. If nothing happens I will seriously think of moving back to Germany.

Not trying to sound cruel but one should never leave a job until they have a new one lined up, I am in a job that I certainly do not love and it gets me down, however I have sent out 100's of c.v. with very little success. Each day I dread going into my job however I would dread my life more if it was the dole que...
although I probably be just as well of on social welfare as employers nowadays get away with murder as they do not pay an awful lot or maybe social welfare is to good in this country.
u need to volunteer at anything , just give yourself a sense of purpose and also show potential employers you are not lazy as motivation, ambition are key traits employers are looking for nowdays.

janullrich

I disagree, but then everybody has different circumstances. For me my health is more important then my wealth. Trying to start up a new business has been great for my development. I don't miss the last job which is total crap at all and if you feel it is getting you so down then you shud definately leave your job as long as you can survive for the next while

chattycatty

Fair enough.. I just think ... one now-days has to think twice before they walk out on a job as social welfare is not as easy to get and anyway it should only be used as last resort..

fat__tony

Ireland is a grim, gloomy place to be OP. i hope you don't ultimately regret making the move from your home country.

[Jackass]

Liinniejj wrote: »

Hello,

This is the first time I post here so sorry if I post it at the wrong place but I was wondering if anyone has some tips or help/advice for me.

Last year august I came to ireland for a job at Xerox and my boyfriend who is Irish. At December i had to quit that job as it was making me depressive. Tried working for TotalFundraising a base wage + commision street fundraising job but I am obviously not the type for that appeared.

Now since then I have send out by e-mail and handed out by hand in stores about 300/400 cv's since end of Januari and only one interview at google nonetheless... however i did great i got refused on the last interview without them having any feedback( I asked).

By now I am really losing hope and am feeling incredibly guilty that my boyfriend has been paying for every bill and all the grocerys etc all alone and I can't do a thing about it.

I have been trying to find a reschooling course or something without fee's as I don't have any money to pay any tuition but no succes. Any internships I have applied for were unsuccesfull as well.

I'm originally from holland and don't know all the irish systems 100% yet so if anyone knows anything that I might have missed and/or could help me in any way I would very much appreciate it! Even a parttime job would be fine with me to start with... just anything.


Greetings

You just described my life OP, as well as hundreds of thousands of other peoples lives in Ireland at the moment too.

It sucks, and I'm living with my girlfriend and she's picking up a lot of the slack at the moment, and to say it gets me down is an understatement, it depresses the sh*t out of me in fact, as I can't find a job, am trying my hardest, but ultimately feel crippled with the guilt of my inability to contribute, and her going to work while I'm at home.

A mans pride is a valuable thing, and when he feels like he's lost or losing it, it's a very grim place.

On a side note, I'm a full time mature student in UCD, but is there anything I can claim whilst looking for a job during the summer or is it tough, regardless of not being able to find a job, the fact that I'm in a 3rd level course means I'm entitled to nothing?

dd972

hoe gaat het, OP ?

Lived and worked in NL, when I came back to Ireland found a job at Lufthansa Global Telesales in Clontarf, they look for Dutch and German speakers on jobs.ie now and then, not great payers but better than nothing.

tempura

Hi Op, have no words of wisdom other then there are thousands in the same boat as yourself. Do go to social welfare and sign on, something is better then nothing. You will also be eligible to do Fas courses, as someone else said, they are not all great , but will give you something to do and keep you occupied while looking for work. Have just finished one myself and to be honest it has kept me sane for the past few months.

You really need to have something to Focus on. One bit of advice I will give, and its probably not a popular one, is don't spend all day everyday looking for jobs, fix a set amount of time for it, otherwise the constant looking at job sites and agencies can just bring you down more, I did this myself when I first became unemployed last year and it wrecked my head seeing the same positions coming up over and over again.

Noticed that you have some retail experience, some of the bigger shopping centres advertise on their own websites, have put up a link for you, hope you find something soon.


http://www.dundrum.ie/about-us/jobs/

RedXIV

Video game companies are always on the hunt for multilingual people,

Keywords International, Activision Blizzard, Vivendi Games, Gala Networks, Goa Games, and probably more are all in Dublin and I know the first two are looking for Dutch speakers.

Best of luck!

mochele

You can't get any Welfare unless you had previously working in Ireland for a minimum of 3 years

mochele

mochele wrote: »

You can't get any Welfare unless you had previously working in Ireland for a minimum of 3 years

Do you realise you are replying to a 5 year old thread?

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