Unmanned DART Stations

The_Wrecker

I spotted this youngster today at Killiney station taking a phone call. After several minutes i couldnt bear waiting for an express train coming through removing her legs so informed her of the dangers. The penny dropped a couple of minutes later and she minded the gap!

foggy_lad

I always thought these unmanned stations were monitored via cctv, were they asleep? Is it just one person with nobody to take over if they need the toilet like was the case a few years ago with the Irish Rail emergency phone operators?

Heisenberg1

You should amend your thread title to read Stupid fool uses DART. Even if station staff where on duty it still doesn't prevent this type of stupidity from some people.

Heisenberg1

foggy_lad wrote: »

I always thought these unmanned stations were monitored via cctv, were they asleep? Is it just one person with nobody to take over if they need the toilet like was the case a few years ago with the Irish Rail emergency phone operators?

This is not an emergency this is some clown who doesn't take notice of

many many warning sign's to STAY BEHIND THE YELLOW LINE not sit in front

of it and hang your legs of the platform get the boat will you.

NuMarvel

Was there something wrong with the seats not 3 metres behind her??

Dravokivich

ehm... she couldn't be more than 6 right? Why was she not with a parent or something?

That I would say is the problem.

Cookie_Monster

I presume your hand was outstretched over the line and that you weren't standing over it too :rolleyes:

n97 mini

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

I presume your hand was outstretched over the line and that you weren't standing over it too :rolleyes:

Looks to me like the OP was standing on the yellow line. Unlikely to get clipped by a train unless they're 40 stone or something.

Lapin

foggy_lad wrote: »

I always thought these unmanned stations were monitored via cctv, were they asleep?

There are certainly enough cameras in that station.

While waiting for a train there recently I noticed one of them (the round white one visible in the photo on the post between the platform 2 signs) constantly spinning around and moving up and down, never focussing on anything for more than a second or two.

I remember thinking at the time if the person controlling it had the shakes.


The girl in that photo should be taken up to the A&E unit of her local hospital in the aftermath of a serious accident. It might open her eyes and and demonstrate to her that her seemingly innocent act of defiance was in fact a decision of crass stupidity that could have had tragic life changing consequences for herself and others.

Or worse.

coylemj

Someone that stupid won't be long qualifying for a Darwin award.

Do the trains pass that close to the platform?

foggy_lad

salonfire wrote: »

Do the trains pass that close to the platform?

Of course, how else are people to get on or off the train? and even with a large gap you would get sucked down under a train travelling at speed

Lapin

salonfire wrote: »

Do the trains pass that close to the platform?

:eek:

Are you the girl in the picture ?

Have a look at this and decide for yourself.



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Cookie_Monster

salonfire wrote: »

Do the trains pass that close to the platform?

yes, but you've a clear 500m+ view of anything approaching.

Victor

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

yes, but you've a clear 500m+ view of anything approaching.

If you are looking in the correct direction and aren't distracted by your phone call.

CIE

salonfire wrote: »

Do the trains pass that close to the platform?

Judge for yourself. My eyes say "yes", FTR.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE65ReaZXJw

Dravokivich

coylemj wrote: »

Someone that stupid won't be long qualifying for a Darwin award.

It's just a matter of someone that young wasn't told of the risk that could occurr before.

Losty Dublin

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

yes, but you've a clear 500m+ view of anything approaching.

How fast the train is approaching is far more critical, with respect. A DART braking for the station gives you maybe a minute. A train doing 100MPH does 1/4 of a mile in just 9 seconds. And as Victor points out, that's not taking distracting factors into account.

vicwatson

Dravokivich wrote: »

ehm... she couldn't be more than 6 right? Why was she not with a parent or something?

That I would say is the problem.

She's more than 6 for definite.

For me old enough to know better.

kippy

I can't believe there are people trying to justify what this child was doing. It beggars belief. The only thing that explains why she did this was that she was a child and knew now better and in that instance one has to ask where were her guardians?


OP can you confirm the age of this person and if the parents were anywhere near by?

The Big Red Button

vicwatson wrote: »

She's more than 6 for definite.

For me old enough to know better.

Yeah at a glance I thought she was a little kid.

But, if you look really close up, she actually looks like an adult. Late teens at least.

The_Wrecker

kippy wrote: »

I can't believe there are people trying to justify what this child was doing. It beggars belief. The only thing that explains why she did this was that she was a child and knew now better and in that instance one has to ask where were her guardians?


OP can you confirm the age of this person and if the parents were anywhere near by?

15/16.
Dont worry folks i didnt get too close to the track when taking the picture, 10x zoom camera.

thomasj

Would it have surprised you if she was over the age of 12, it wouldn't have surprised me!

There is a careless attribute to some Irish people, with safety being the last to think about. It seems to happen with all modes and varies in age.

It reminds me of a few years ago where there were two teenage girls standing on platform 5 at Connolly and one of them put there hand out for it as it approached the platform. Someone screamed to take the hand away and once it dawned on her what she had done cue a large bout of laughter from the girls.

Back during the old lansdowne road match days I remember one night where people were expecting the next dart at platform 6. As the dart started to pull in to platform 5 slowly it dawned on people and they started to cross the tracks with the dart within short distance not listening to the announcement to "get off the f**kin tracks" all they wanted was to be on that dart.

At least five occasions on arriving at clonsilla station there would always be a train heading in the other direction as well. People would not use the footbridge and upon seeing the level gates closed would cross the tracks. On one occasion, there was a young couple crossing the tracks and the woman walking across slowly came within the path of the commuter train. (Luckily it was stopping) the horn was beeped she screamed and started to sped up. When she got across she had a bit of a laugh with the driver understandably furious.

Of course there have been occasions at dart stations where kids have been throwing balls from one platform to another and upon it falling on the platform getting down to get it! I have personally witnessed these all! SCARY!

Of course its not limited to trains, I'm sure there might Be a bus driver on here that could tell the most awkward spot they've been asked by a passenger to let them off. One occasion where the bus was in the middle of 3 lanes of traffic. The driver didn't answer but I'm sure I know what he was thinking.

Off course we also have people crossing when lights were red with cars in front of them, the notorious spot at Aston quay/ westmoreland street comes to mind not to mention cyclists skipping lights and cars taking chances at orange lights. Not to mention the in think of people texting/calling while they are crossing the road.

We are a serious careless bunch and we either laugh or blame the other person. Are you seriously surprised at seeing the above picture.

Judgement Day

It's beyond stupid to sit on the edge of the platform as any one of a number of things could happen - two that come to mind.

1. You could slip in your haste to get up as the train approaches.
2. The driver might feel obliged to brake hard anticipating yet another suicide attempt.

Lack of a proper upbringing but eventually natural selection (and the DART) will lead to a very intelligent species evolving along the Dublin coastline.

bmaxi

An express train in Killiney
Fair play to the OP for having the kindred spirit to warn the girl, most people wouldn't risk being told to fcuk off and mind their own business.

It never ceases to amaze me how blase people are when it comes to their own safety, drive down any street in Ireland and you'll see people just walk out into the road in front of traffic, it's as if they have a death wish. Some day they'll pick a car whose driver is distracted and then it'll be the driver's fault.

**Timbuk2**

bmaxi wrote: »

An express train in Killiney

Trains going through Killiney but not stopping in Killiney, e.g. Belfast-Dublin Enterprise service.

Judgement Day

**Timbuk2** wrote: »

Trains going through Killiney but not stopping in Killiney, e.g. Belfast-Dublin Enterprise service.

That would be a runaway rather than an express given that Killiney is south of Dublin! :eek:

**Timbuk2**

Judgement Day wrote: »

That would be a runaway rather than an express given that Killiney is south of Dublin! :eek:

I was thinking of Killester, I'm still asleep :eek:

bmaxi

**Timbuk2** wrote: »

I was thinking of Killester, I'm still asleep :eek:

I've been on the Enterprise going through Killester, it's probably doing about 25mph by then. So unless you term an express as something that doesn't stop, rather than something that travels at speed, I wouldn't worry too much

Jammyc

bmaxi wrote: »

An express train in Killiney
Fair play to the OP for having the kindred spirit to warn the girl, most people wouldn't risk being told to fcuk off and mind their own business.

It never ceases to amaze me how blase people are when it comes to their own safety, drive down any street in Ireland and you'll see people just walk out into the road in front of traffic, it's as if they have a death wish. Some day they'll pick a car whose driver is distracted and then it'll be the driver's fault.

Trains on the Dublin-Rosslare route do not serve Killiney and pass at speed through the station.

n97 mini

Losty Dublin wrote: »

A train doing 100MPH does 1/4 of a mile in just 9 seconds.

I think we're getting a bit carried away now. Does any train do 100mph in Ireland, and isn't there a speed limit of something like 30mph when trains are going through urban areas, which even the Rosslare Bullet is limited by?

Jammyc

n97 mini wrote: »

I think we're getting a bit carried away now. Does any train do 100mph in Ireland, and isn't there a speed limit of something like 30mph when trains are going through urban areas, which even the Rosslare Bullet is limited by?

I don't think so, I've been on the Rosslare train when it has passed through stations at at least 60mph, or so I reckon.

bmaxi

Jammyc wrote: »

I don't think so, I've been on the Rosslare train when it has passed through stations at at least 60mph, or so I reckon.

Not through Killiney, whatever about the stretch between Bray and Shankill. The section of line at Killiney has had many slippages and rockfalls over the years, I doubt if even IE's standards of health and safety would allow it to travel at 60mph there.

Lapin

:rolleyes:

It doesn't really matter if its the TGV or Stevenson's Rocket passing through Killiney.

You just don't sit on the platform edge.

christmas2012

ya that looked very dangerous i wouldnt do it for even a second imagine one of those darts passing like a bullet you would take a while getting up off it by that time you could be dead

CIE

coylemj wrote: »

Someone that stupid won't be long qualifying for a Darwin award.

Railway-related incidents never qualified for that due to frequency of occurrence.

Victor

n97 mini wrote: »

I think we're getting a bit carried away now. Does any train do 100mph in Ireland, and isn't there a speed limit of something like 30mph when trains are going through urban areas, which even the Rosslare Bullet is limited by?

Who cares, the train weighs a few hundred tonnes - the legs are coming off and rest is likely to be mangled.

Hilly Bill

I'd be more concerned with the OP taking pics of random females and only pointed out the dangers after getting the picture.

n97 mini

Victor wrote: »

Who cares, the train weighs a few hundred tonnes - the legs are coming off and rest is likely to be mangled.

I think a bit of perspective is required. Big difference between a 300 mph bullet train carrying spent nuclear fuel and a boat train ambling through at 30 mph. Sure, there's a danger from both, but let's not get carried away.

L1011

CIE wrote: »

Railway-related incidents never qualified for that due to frequency of occurrence.

Not true.

Once there is an element of stupidity involved, they qualify. I don't feel like going upstairs to get the books, but there's incidents in them.

end of the road

salonfire wrote: »

Do the trains pass that close to the platform?

oh god, and we wonder why this sort of thing happens.

Cookie_Monster

end of the road wrote: »

oh god, and we wonder why this sort of thing happens.

what sort of thing?

I challenge anyone to find the most recent example in Ireland of someone sitting on the edge of a platform getting hit...
(not suicide, no drunkenly falling off, not prams rolling away etc, someone sitting like that)

Losty Dublin

Cookie, are you assuring us that it is perfectly safe to sit on the platform edge?

Cookie_Monster

Losty Dublin wrote: »

Cookie, are you assuring us that it is perfectly safe to sit on the platform edge?

not at all, I just don't think it's that overly dangerous to bring out the high horses in a bigger spate than even motors usually manage.

Losty Dublin

So would you feel safe sitting on a road with cars driving by about a foot from you?

Cookie_Monster

Losty Dublin wrote: »

So would you feel safe sitting on a road with cars driving by about a foot from you?

yep. frequently sat on the edge of the curb at busstops, (I also cycle a lot, so am well used to it)

Losty Dublin

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

yep. frequently sat on the edge of the curb at busstops, (I also cycle a lot, so am well used to it)

Cars and buses can steer away from you or brake swiftly when you are too close for safety; a train has neither luxury.

Cookie_Monster

Losty Dublin wrote: »

Cars and buses can steer away from you or brake swiftly when you are too close for safety; a train has neither luxury.

no shit. why'd you even ask it then?

Rasmus

At first glance of this I thought, Ah yeah, I used to do that.. in the SEVENTIES when you could hear a slow diesel train approach from the next town. Maybe she's been trapped in a wormhole since.

Losty Dublin

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

no shit. why'd you even ask it then?

Says he who reckons it's safe to sit so close

end of the road

end of the road wrote: »

oh god, and we wonder why this sort of thing happens.

Hey!! :mad:

I was just asking if the trains pass that close, alright?!

I live in a county that doesn't have a train service and was curious how much of a gap is between the platform and a running train. Obviously from the videos, it's inches