New septic tank average prices?

DollyB

Hi just looking for a bit of help. Getting a house built in the near future and was just going through the list and have come to a loss at the septic tank. How much on average does it cost now a days to buy and get one installed?

rayjdav

If you are lucky enough to just have to install a septic tank in todays environmental climate, you are very lucky. They cost from €600-900. Depending on the ground conditions(rock etc) and your site report re perc area, that could be an extra €1500-4000. Builder can only determine accurate price from details in report.

If on the other hand you need a treatment system, anywhere from €4k-9k. On the assumption that you have planning obtained, you will obviously refer to your site specific test and therein it should tell you what you need and probably a particular system may have been spece'd too?

BryanF

really! are some councils still allowing septic tanks? OP budget 5g for a treatment unit & perc area

mickdw

You will buy a treatment unit for about 2600. You then have to consider sewer piping, access junctions around the house, distribution chamber, percolation pipes, drainage stone, concrete and a couple of days labour with digger.

rayjdav

mickdw wrote: »

You will buy a treatment unit for about 2600. You then have to consider sewer piping, access junctions around the house, distribution chamber, percolation pipes, drainage stone, concrete and a couple of days labour with digger.

Mickdw,
There are systems there for that price but it does not mean automatically that the specific subject site is appropriate for the system. The test results determine the type of additional treatment required initially and then and only then can a type be determined, which may mean 2k or may mean 8k.
The other thing I found in current climate, certain smaller companies have gone to the wall leaving clients contracts up in the air. You should do as much research as possible if going down treatment system route.

BryanF, down here if conditions allow, you can install one still here. Neighbour has just done it..

Jimbo

BryanF wrote: »

really! are some councils still allowing septic tanks? OP budget 5g for a treatment unit & perc area

Septic tanks are still acceptable under some circumstances under the EPA Code of Practice 2009.

In fact, Cork County Council recently issued a letter to site assessors warning them not to specify a treatment plant where a septic tank is acceptable. Presumably this is to stamp out site assessors employed by treament plant companies only specifing their treatment plants where septic tanks would work perfectly ok.

steifanc

DollyB wrote: »

Hi just looking for a bit of help. Getting a house built in the near future and was just going through the list and have come to a loss at the septic tank. How much on average does it cost now a days to buy and get one installed?

I paid € 3600 for a concrete treatment tank pumped to perculation , € 300 for pipe for perculation area and € 200 for stone , labour and machine on top of that

fiestaman

Done mine last yr, treatment system tank and pressurised perculation area. Incl all pipes for storm and sewage and stone for perc area and digger man E13000.

jakko86

does any1 know the cost of a puraflo peat filter and polishing unit not sure if my terminology is correct?

baby builder

Fingal county council just gave us planning permission for a septic tank..... I thought that once the site survey and p tests etcs indicated a septic tank that that's what county councils would approve no matter where you are in the country??

sydthebeat

baby builder wrote: »

Fingal county council just gave us planning permission for a septic tank..... I thought that once the site survey and p tests etcs indicated a septic tank that that's what county councils would approve no matter where you are in the country??

I'm not quite sure what your getting at.

They approved what was proposed....

baby builder

Sorry sydthebeat - exactly! The company that did the site characterisation survey and tests proposed a septic tank and they approved that based on the test results.

muffler

As Tom Jones once said sang - "Its not unusual"

rayjdav

jakko86 wrote: »

does any1 know the cost of a puraflo peat filter and polishing unit not sure if my terminology is correct?

Last time I checked, about a year or so, they were €4600+ but their head office did say "talk to your local rep about that (price)";) That is just for their unit and no other ancillary items required, septic tank, sump. pump, piping or percoaltion area/works. That price can only be noted after a read of your site specific test report.

BryanF

Jimbo wrote: »

Septic tanks are still acceptable under some circumstances under the EPA Code of Practice 2009.

In fact, Cork County Council recently issued a letter to site assessors warning them not to specify a treatment plant where a septic tank is acceptable. Presumably this is to stamp out site assessors employed by treament plant companies only specifing their treatment plants where septic tanks would work perfectly ok.

Had a county eng ring me this week re a one- off house to suggest a treatment was not necessary and a septic tank was adequate. Good ground in semi rural cork.. I stand corrected.

olcod

BryanF wrote: »

Had a county eng ring me this week re a one- off house to suggest a treatment was not necessary and a septic tank was adequate. Good ground in semi rural cork.. I stand corrected.

Could anyone please give me an idea as to what would be classed as good or suitable ground for a septic tank. We are in the process of buying a old cottage which currently has a concrete tank installed, with the new inspections due to start soon it would be nice to know that if our tank failed inspection weather we'll be looking at a simple new replacement or a more expensive treatment plant, thanks in advance.

BryanF

olcod wrote: »

Could anyone please give me an idea as to what would be classed as good or suitable ground for a septic tank. We are in the process of buying a old cottage which currently has a concrete tank installed, with the new inspections due to start soon it would be nice to know that if our tank failed inspection weather we'll be looking at a simple new replacement or a more expensive treatment plant, thanks in advance.

Could Eng / surveyor doing assessment on cottage not advise?
Edit: should the seller not have this registered prior to sale?

sydthebeat

olcod wrote: »

Could anyone please give me an idea as to what would be classed as good or suitable ground for a septic tank. We are in the process of buying a old cottage which currently has a concrete tank installed, with the new inspections due to start soon it would be nice to know that if our tank failed inspection weather we'll be looking at a simple new replacement or a more expensive treatment plant, thanks in advance.

firstly, as bryanf states above, it should be a condition of sale that the septic tank should be registered. its a law now and it should be included in the conveyancing process.

if not, and sometimes solicitors are slow on the uptake with some of these issues, then have a read of this:
http://www.epa.ie/downloads/pubs/water/wastewater/EPA_DWWTS_RiskRanking.pdf

its gives an idea of what would be looked for in an inspection, and should give you an idea as to whether a replacement will be needed or not.

secondly, your engineer who is doing the pre-purchase report should include a visual report on the tank as well, in accordance with the document above.

rockabaloo

olcod wrote: »

Could anyone please give me an idea as to what would be classed as good or suitable ground for a septic tank. We are in the process of buying a old cottage which currently has a concrete tank installed, with the new inspections due to start soon it would be nice to know that if our tank failed inspection weather we'll be looking at a simple new replacement or a more expensive treatment plant, thanks in advance.

You need ground that allows the water to soak away. But it's not allowed to soak away too quickly either.

olcod

BryanF wrote: »

Could Eng / surveyor doing assessment on cottage not advise?
Edit: should the seller not have this registered prior to sale?

we've not used an Engineer/ surveyor as firstly we are cash buyers so no mortgage brokers stating we need a report and secondly the cottage itself is an old single story building approx 100 yrs old and not lived in for about 3 years so in need of extensive modernization so we are aware it needs a rake of work ( have had it checked over by a builder friend and its structurally sound and the existing tank seems to be in good condition with what looks like fairly new pipework and block work )

The sellers are in the uk ( they inherited the cottage and had/have no interest in it other than selling it ) I presume they are unaware of the new septic tank laws and will probably not register it at this stage as we are about to sign the contracts any day now. We were under the impression that we could just register it when we became owners.

olcod

sydthebeat wrote: »

firstly, as bryanf states above, it should be a condition of sale that the septic tank should be registered. its a law now and it should be included in the conveyancing process.

if not, and sometimes solicitors are slow on the uptake with some of these issues, then have a read of this:
http://www.epa.ie/downloads/pubs/water/wastewater/EPA_DWWTS_RiskRanking.pdf

its gives an idea of what would be looked for in an inspection, and should give you an idea as to whether a replacement will be needed or not.

secondly, your engineer who is doing the pre-purchase report should include a visual report on the tank as well, in accordance with the document above.

Thanks for the link sydthebeat, I'll have a read through it.

BryanF

olcod wrote: »

we've not used an Engineer/ surveyor as firstly we are cash buyers so no mortgage brokers stating we need a report and secondly the cottage itself is an old single story building approx 100 yrs old and not lived in for about 3 years so in need of extensive modernization so we are aware it needs a rake of work ( have had it checked over by a builder friend and its structurally sound and the existing tank seems to be in good condition with what looks like fairly new pipework and block work )

The sellers are in the uk ( they inherited the cottage and had/have no interest in it other than selling it ) I presume they are unaware of the new septic tank laws and will probably not register it at this stage as we are about to sign the contracts any day now. We were under the impression that we could just register it when we became owners.

Why not get a professional to review?

sydthebeat

olcod wrote: »

we've not used an Engineer/ surveyor as firstly we are cash buyers so no mortgage brokers stating we need a report and secondly the cottage itself is an old single story building approx 100 yrs old and not lived in for about 3 years so in need of extensive modernization so we are aware it needs a rake of work ( have had it checked over by a builder friend and its structurally sound and the existing tank seems to be in good condition with what looks like fairly new pipework and block work )

The sellers are in the uk ( they inherited the cottage and had/have no interest in it other than selling it ) I presume they are unaware of the new septic tank laws and will probably not register it at this stage as we are about to sign the contracts any day now. We were under the impression that we could just register it when we became owners.

Would you buy a car with no NCT?

if the road you are taking is as youve posted then good luck, caveat emptor.

conor86

"any person who sells a premises served by a treatment system, must, at closure of sale, provide evidence of the treatment system’s registration to the purchaser"

I suggest pay the €50 charge on their behalf at local council, but I say you wont be entitle to a grant for any work need on the tank. It like that the tank structure would fail (need an en12566 approved tank). It is also likely that the soak pit is the percolation and that would failed. You need to excavate 9m trench per person in good ground condition as a rule of thumb