Changing a county reg plate to "D" plate

dickwod1

Hi I can remember a while ago that there was talk of being able to change county reg plates to your own county ie. 12CN**** to 12D**** anybody know what happend to that?
I cant find anything about it on Google etc. just that it was an idea being thrown about.

CiniO

It was just an idea, but never was put into life.

Max Power1

As usual, like anything in Ireland that is a sensible money spinning potential,it was not implemented. :mad:

Indricotherium

Max Power1 wrote: »

As usual, like anything in Ireland that is a sensible money spinning potential,it was not implemented. :mad:

People might be tricked into buying Donegal or Dublin cars if that was possible.

ShadowHearth

What's the difference anyway. I never cared what reg it is. So far almost all cars I owned or own have D on them and I am in the middle of cork!

-Corkie-

ShadowHearth wrote: »

What's the difference anyway. I never cared what reg it is. So far almost all cars I owned or own have D on them and I am in the middle of cork!

Same as that one is G and the other is D..

ShadowHearth

-Corkie- wrote: »

Same as that one is G and the other is D..

I heard "G" plate is a myth

CiniO

For example in Poland everyone is forced to get a new numberplate with mark of their current address district, after purchasing a car secondhand provided it has different mark (which is nearly always the case as there are nearly 1000 different districts marks) or after moving address. Each time changing registration plate costs about 50 euro and everyone is forced to do it.
Comaparing to above, I definitely love Irish system, where number plate is assigned once for life.

dgt

OSI wrote: »

Each driver should be assigned a registration plate that moves with them from car to car. It would certainly help crack down on a lot of crap that goes on.

Multiple plates :cool:

Nissan doctor

Surely type/spec/condition are the priorities when buying a car? Are there people actually vein enough to be worried about what county is on their reg plate?

Mycroft H

Nissan doctor wrote: »

Surely type/spec/condition are the priorities when buying a car? Are there people actually vein enough to be worried about what county is on their reg plate?

Oh there is plenty of people. Most of them are either old or have not a clue of cars.

Old man logic : Ohhh I wouldn't be buying a OY reg... There is bad roads out there. etc etc...

Nissan doctor

BX 19 wrote: »

Oh there is plenty of people. Most of them are either old or have not a clue of cars.

Old man logic : Ohhh I wouldn't be buying a OY reg... There is bad roads out there. etc etc...

The mind boggles, I've had mostly D reg's but only because that's where I'm from, I've also had KK and WX reg's. I'm currently back on a D reg but that's for no other reason then it happened to be the best of several I looked at around the country.

Del2005

OSI wrote: »

Each driver should be assigned a registration plate that moves with them from car to car. It would certainly help crack down on a lot of crap that goes on.

They have that it Switzerland, you get one plate and have to change it when driving different cars.

How would it help crack down on the crap? Each car already has a unique number so if you have an issue with someone's driving report the reg number.

pred racer

Nissan doctor wrote: »

Surely type/spec/condition are the priorities when buying a car? Are there people actually vein enough to be worried about what county is on their reg plate?

Yes......people from Dublin:rolleyes:

Thats why I always look for country reg cars in dublin, alot of the time they're cheaper:)

munchkin_utd

Indricotherium wrote: »

People might be tricked into buying Donegal or Dublin cars if that was possible.

no they wouldn't be tricked.
You would have those details on the car registration papers (as is the case in countries like germany where you change your plate to your locality whenever you move) so a buyer would know from the documents where the car has previously been registered.

It is pig stupid though that you cant give a cash strapped government your hard earned money to make an optional change of reg should you want it.

BTW, in Ireland we already had a change of numberplate from the old relatively crypitc system to the new system with year and county initials so its not as if it already hasnt happened that a vehicle has been registered under 2 registration numbers in Ireland.

Indricotherium

munchkin_utd wrote: »

Indricotherium wrote: »

People might be tricked into buying Donegal or Dublin cars if that was possible.

no they wouldn't be tricked.
You would have those details on the car registration papers (as is the case in countries like germany where you change your plate to your locality whenever you move) so a buyer would know from the documents where the car has previously been registered.

It is pig stupid though that you cant give a cash strapped government your hard earned money to make an optional change of reg should you want it.

BTW, in Ireland we already had a change of numberplate from the old relatively crypitc system to the new system with year and county initials so its not as if it already hasnt happened that a vehicle has been registered under 2 registration numbers in Ireland.

I don't think it would be fair though.

Imagine your neighbours had a Culchie car and you didn't know.

biko

Been asked loads and it's not possible to change, yet. Maybe some day but I don't think it's a priority and it shouldn't be either.
Mostly it looks to be Dubs buying non-Dub cars wanting that precious D .

cjt156

Works the other way too. Once worked with a chap who insisted his company car was reg'd to his home address rather than the company address. Just to be sure the neighbours would see his local reg when he toddled up to mass of a Sunday...
GAA county rivalry would also play a big part in it.

For the record I've owned and currently own a range of county plates; I don't care if anyone thinks I'm a backward, spud-munching, bog-hopping knuckle-dragger.

Max Power1

Indricotherium wrote: »

People might be tricked into buying Donegal or Dublin cars if that was possible.

If people are stupid enough to pay a fee to change to a "D" reg, why not take their money (and maybe reduce the motor tax rates or something as an offshot)

Mar4ix

in Latvia, people may put a private number plate ... regular plate look like DZ-7082, but if you willing spend around 1500 euro (it was 7 years ago, when i left , these days could be more).... you can put private number plate - BATMAN , HEROIN , ASSASSIN ... etc(what ever you like up 8 letters ... there is some exemptions though) .

I found in Ireland number plate assigning system is good, cant complain.

EDIT : Jesus ... just looked on regulations ... now around 4k euro for that fun.

CiniO

Mar4ix wrote: »

in Latvia, people may put a private number plate ... regular plate look like DZ-7082, but if you willing spend around 1500 euro (it was 7 years ago, when i left , these days could be more).... you can put private number plate - BATMAN , HEROIN , ASSASSIN ... etc(what ever you like up 8 letters ... there is some exemptions though) .

I found in Ireland number plate assigning system is good, cant complain.

EDIT : Jesus ... just looked on regulations ... now around 4k euro for that fun.

4k??
Mad price.
Does anyone go for it there?
In Poland private plate costs only 250euro, but it still must have country mark with one digit + 3 to 5 freely chosen characters.
F.e. I could get K0-CINIO.
Discouraging thing though is that plate stays only with the same owner and car. If you sell a car plate is gone. If you move to different county - plate is gone.

But even the price is much lower than you pointed out, barely anyone has those private plates. I see them very rarely when I'm in Poland.

Paparazzo

I'd do it purely because it's nice to have the reg from your home county. Feels dirty driving around with a D reg

mickdw

I dont go for the snobery of different plates however I simply dont like the look of certain plates on a car. I think TN, KE and CN look terrible.

K.Flyer

Why does anyone feel the need to change one of the simplest and best car reg systems ever. Whenever I get talking with anyone from outside the country about our car reg system they think its brilliant.
If you have a problem buying a car with a county reg you dont like then dont buy it!!
What difference does it make, is it county snobbery or something?

Big Nasty

I dunno about it being 'the best system ever'. I admire its simplicity for sure but I think I preferred it the old way. I.e. most models have a 5 year lifespan (maybe a bit shorter lately) with a facelift in between. Most people wouldn't be up to speed on the difference between an '05 model and a '10 model within the same generation nor would they necessarily be clued in on what year the car was based on the old reg system.

I think a lot of cars sell based on their year these days as opposed to the cars own merits.

K.Flyer

The reg system is just that.. registering where and when the car was first registered, making tracking and filing fairly straightforward.
If its not broken why try to fix it.
But I do agree with your last point, if you are not a "have to have the latest reg number" type person, with any given budget you usually will get a lot more car for your money if you go down a bit in years.

Lando Griffin

I know a lad with a KK plate on his tractor.The abuse all the Dubs hurled at him when he brought her up to the big protest a few year back was "disturbing" to say the least.

colm_mcm

Lando Griffin wrote: »

I know a lad with a KK plate on his tractor.The abuse all the Dubs hurled at him when he brought her up to the big protest a few year back was "disturbing" to say the least.

Yeah, if he was driving a D reg, he'd have fitted in to the traffic?

Solair

It's really only a problem if you have a non-D (or possibly non-C) plate in their respective counties or, if you've a plate from a GAA arch enemy county.

I know we'd difficulty selling a car in Cork with a non-C plate in the past. Two people turned their noses up at it.
Similar nonsense in Dublin.

Stinicker

Our vehicle licensing system is fine the way it is. In fact it is one of the few sensible things that has ever been done or implemented in this country. It tells you the year of registration unlike the UK system, it tells you the area the car is from without resorting to a guide book and it works fine. No personalised plates or any other nonsense. That buffon Michael Healy Rae was in the media a while back calling for an alternative to to 13-D, 13-KY plates :rolleyes:

It works fine and should be left as is, but knowing Ireland there are some people determined to keep "fixing" it until it is broken.

ninty9er

munchkin_utd wrote: »

no they wouldn't be tricked.
You would have those details on the car registration papers (as is the case in countries like germany where you change your plate to your locality whenever you move) so a buyer would know from the documents where the car has previously been registered.

It is pig stupid though that you cant give a cash strapped government your hard earned money to make an optional change of reg should you want it.

BTW, in Ireland we already had a change of numberplate from the old relatively crypitc system to the new system with year and county initials so its not as if it already hasnt happened that a vehicle has been registered under 2 registration numbers in Ireland.

That only occurs in Germany if the registered place of keeping is changed, not the owner, if I recall from what I was told a few years ago it's not very strictly enforced anyway.

We haven't had cars registered on 2 systems, they stay on the system they were initially registered to, unless you want to put a classic on a ZV plate, which I think is still possible.

Stinicker

OSI wrote: »

The UK plate shows within a 6 month window when the car was registered, so would be more accurate than the Irish plate in that regard.

Yeah but it is a coded system, so if you see a car on the street you haven't a clue what age it is unless you have the entire system memorised. The Irish system works brilliant in that you know the age of the car instantaneously.

CiniO

K.Flyer wrote: »

Why does anyone feel the need to change one of the simplest and best car reg systems ever. Whenever I get talking with anyone from outside the country about our car reg system they think its brilliant.
If you have a problem buying a car with a county reg you dont like then dont buy it!!
What difference does it make, is it county snobbery or something?

No I don't think it's the most brilliant and simplest car reg system ever.

The main aim of putting a numberplate on the car, is for identification purposes. The most important use of those identification is in case when a driver commits any offense or crime on the road, so other people can report him later to the authorites by quoting his reg number. In vast majority of such cases there is very little time to read that number plate.
That's why number plates should be as easy as possible to read. Big easily readable fonts, and as little letters and numbers as possible.
Unfortunately that simple and brilliant Irish reg system, allows for extremally long reg numbers (9 characters in total) and allows for fairly small fonts, not necceserily easily readable.

I already said it in other thread, that best what I can see for Ireland would be 6 character plates (3 letters 3 digits) with big font. That gives over 17 million combinations, which is more than plenty for Ireland. They should all be random, so no need for any county or year marks. That would be simple and brilliant. Not what we have now.

ShadowHearth

I just realised my scooby was a G... So maybe it's not a myth so?

Del2005

OSI wrote: »

When tied into Pulse, it would provide instant info on the driver for a Garda to see straight away details about the driver such as if they're banned, if they have a learners permit etc.

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If a driver was banned, under your system, then their plates should be taken off them. So they wouldn't be able to drive on their own plates anyway. Also in most countries the car is insured not the person so anyone could be driving so the cops still have to pull the driver to verify if they are legit or not.

Once a reg is in Pulse it'll flag, Gardaí can already ad banned drivers reg numbers to Pulse but they don't. We already have systems to catch drivers they just aren't utilised correctly.

OSI wrote: »

It would also help crack down on people that buy cars from gullible people and take the vehicle cert with them, before racking up speeding and toll fines that in a car still registered to the previous owner.
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Caveat venditor. If you don't bother doing a tiny bit of basic research tough, you learn the hard way

CiniO wrote: »

No I don't think it's the most brilliant and simplest car reg system ever.

The main aim of putting a numberplate on the car, is for identification purposes. The most important use of those identification is in case when a driver commits any offense or crime on the road, so other people can report him later to the authorites by quoting his reg number. In vast majority of such cases there is very little time to read that number plate.
That's why number plates should be as easy as possible to read. Big easily readable fonts, and as little letters and numbers as possible.
Unfortunately that simple and brilliant Irish reg system, allows for extremally long reg numbers (9 characters in total) and allows for fairly small fonts, not necceserily easily readable.

I already said it in other thread, that best what I can see for Ireland would be 6 character plates (3 letters 3 digits) with big font. That gives over 17 million combinations, which is more than plenty for Ireland. They should all be random, so no need for any county or year marks. That would be simple and brilliant. Not what we have now.

We had a system like that pre 1987.

I rather the current system as it penalises reg snobs and it great for people like me who buy the vehicle not a few numbers which you rarely see anyway.