Videographer - did you have one?

Misticles

Did you?

My photographer has mentioned that they get in the way a lot and can end up in most of your photos.

Any opinions?

Acoshla

I didn't want one because I hate watching myself on video but after the engagement party going by in a blur I don't want the wedding to do the same so we're getting one, so I can watch it back. But as photos are much more my priority than video I'm just getting a college student to do it. A good one shouldn't get in the way of photos, I've often watched video/photographers at weddings out of interest and it's cool watching how well they sneak around discreetly.

Misticles

Acoshla wrote: »

I didn't want one because I hate watching myself on video but after the engagement party going by in a blur I don't want the wedding to do the same so we're getting one, so I can watch it back. But as photos are much more my priority than video I'm just getting a college student to do it. A good one shouldn't get in the way of photos, I've often watched video/photographers at weddings out of interest and it's cool watching how well they sneak around discreetly.

Yea, I was thinking a very good one would know what to do and not get in the way.

On a side note - if anyone knows a videographer that is willing to travel PM me please or one in Malta.

john_cappa

Misticles wrote: »

Did you?

My photographer has mentioned that they get in the way a lot and can end up in most of your photos.

Any opinions?

Bull ****.

Any decent photographer will be able to work with a videographer.

Misticles

john_cappa wrote: »

Bull ****.

Any decent photographer will be able to work with a videographer.

he was saying the issue was with them
Will have to suss this one out

frozenfrozen

Nonsense about the videographer getting in the way. I'd say get a new photographer, they don't sound very experienced.

Misticles

To be honest - for me it's better if I work without videographer because 99% of them don't know how work in a team and You will have videographer in Your wedding photos......
I had the same problem 2 weeks ago
Bride and Groom have almost all of the photos from the church with the videographer in the background.... When they were sitting in the car - I took a photo inside car when they were kissing and he was in the window - he was everywhere

How does this happen?

Sleepy

I'd say it's either the videographer, the photographer or both being inexperienced or just bull-headed.

I'd imagine most people are scrimping on one or the other at the moment if they're bothering to have both and the results are what might be expected: no matter how good one is if the other's doesn't really know what they're doing they're going to get in each other's way (unless by some miracle the capable one is also able to coach the other on the day). Can also see how it might happen with two not-quite-as-experienced/capable as you'd imagine people behind the respective lenses.

We're not bothering with a video as neither of us could bare to watch ourselves back on video. Then again, we're not hiring a professional photographer either as we've a few friends who are very talented amateurs.

clint_silver

frozenfrozen wrote: »

Nonsense about the videographer getting in the way. I'd say get a new photographer, they don't sound very experienced.

on the money.

might as well say dont have a priest, he gets in the way of the shots during the ceremony. Or guests, theyre always in the way, how is he supposed to work
with other people in the way?


theres just something plain wrong about a photographer even saying this to a bride and groom.

Misticles

He says its not a problem but that he will be shooting the video so he is bound to be in some of the photos ?!
He said that he has had bad experiences with videographers as they just do their own thing - walk in front of his camera etc

RoryMurphyJnr

had one at our wedding and he worked with the photographer.
Didn't notice either of them unless we we're supposed to
didn't think I wanted one at first but seeing the end result glad we did
PM me if you want contact details

ABajaninCork

I had a videographer. Didn't even notice him until I was about to go in. Saw him the once and that was it. And NO he wasn't in any of our pictures!:D

Mind you - I think the videographer and the photographer know each other well, and just worked around.

I agree that the OP's photographer is talking out of his 'arris!

Did a fantastic DVD of the day too! Very happy...

Ballyman

Sleepy wrote: »

I'd say it's either the videographer, the photographer or both being inexperienced or just bull-headed.

This is your problem here. Your photographer sounds like he hasn't a clue what he is doing. Any half decent photographer will be able to work around him no problem and vice versa.

The photographer will end up in some of the videographer's footage as he is videoing the day as it unfolds but he can edit the photographer out afterwards. However the photographer has time to take a lot of his shots so he can make sure there is nobody in the way and can use long lenses/different angles to remove distractions around the couple.

To be honest, if I were you and that is the message I got from him then I would forget about him and get someone else as he obviously has no experience at all and hasn't a clue what he is at.

Gatica

agree with other posters. Also is very cheeky of the photographer to be thus dismissing their customer's wishes or talking down a, what could be considered, competing profession.
If both are professionals there's no reason why they cannot work with or around each-other. Saw both at two previous weddings as well as the results of their work and there was little of the photographer in videos and vice versa. Nowadays when it's so much more common to have both many of these professionals have experience of working with the other and don't make an issue of it. If he is making an issue, then it's his issue only.

Senna

Bride and Groom have almost all of the photos from the church with the videographer in the background.... When they were sitting in the car - I took a photo inside car when they were kissing and he was in the window - he was everywhere

That made me laugh, did the photographer not look at who was in the shot?? Very very unprofessional and to think he's blaming someone else for his own inability to take a good picture

Fionn

i do both video and photo, last wedding i was doing there were three of us - two on video and me on stills, i caught the video people a few times, but you take shots from different angles anyway to make sure you have enough to make up an album/slide show etc.
I remember editing the footage and noticed i'd walked into view a few times too!! thats why i have two video cams so i can do cutaways when, me or the priest or a bunch of flowers etc. gets into the shot

you should be encouraging your photographer to consult with anyone else you've hired to make things go as smoothly as possible.

I think more and more couples are getting video done these days, it's probably nice to look back in so many years time and still relive the day, sort of like watching a favourite old movie eh?

Rew

We had 2 video and 2 photographers with out any hassle. The photography was our primary concern so that may have made it easier

Misticles

I have become very weary now about this photographer

frozenfrozen

Misticles, have you looked at their portfolio and just decided they are the one for you? This person doesn't really seem to be giving off the vibe that they will be able to do a good job..

Misticles

frozenfrozen wrote: »

Misticles, have you looked at their portfolio and just decided they are the one for you? This person doesn't really seem to be giving off the vibe that they will be able to do a good job..

I looked through his website pics and I did like them plus his package is very good but I am kind of iffy now.

I spoke to my planner and asked if they had worked with both that could work together. They are sending me images from th guys portfolio and advised that this guy has worked with the videographer before and there were no issues as they know each other and work well together.

I just don't want pictures with the videographer lurking and that's the
Impression I get off this guy.

It could be very possible that your photographer is just a worst-case scenario kinda guy. It's very possible that the videographer won't be in any photos, but there are times when it's just unavoidable.

Alternatively, the photographer may have worked with a videographer before that was an absolute prick, and maybe the photographer has soured a bit?

Wedding I did a while ago (never worked with a videographer before) I was at the back of the church lining up a shot of the bride and groom lighting the candles early on in the ceremony.

Had everything spot on and ready to go. Videographer was standing off to the side of the altar and I was pretty happy with my composition. As I then had the camera to my eye (awaiting the bride/groom to do their thing) just as they were about to do it, the videographer walked into my photo.

I moved to the side as quick as I could to get him out, but there was a pillar there, so I couldn't move far enough and now the videographer is in the photo.

It's the only shot he's in as far as I recall, but there was nothing I could do about it and he obviously wasn't any the wiser.

So it's possible that your photographer is afraid of having such a thing happening to him.

That said, however, the videographer I worked alongside was a genuine guy and really helpful (was my first wedding). He understood that photography took priority and he didn't get an ego or anything, or try to 'bully in' or mess about or such. He really was a sound bloke (and if I'm honest, before I met him, I was dreading a videographer, as I didn't want someone who was very pushy, and I'd seen a videographer or two in the past who seem to think they're the most important thing in the world, so I was a bit iffy going in, but all went well).

If I were you though, I'd pass along the info of the videographer to the photographer (and vice versa) so if they want to give each other a bell they can do so (I rang the videographer before the wedding, just to find out what he was covering, or if he was there all day or such, just so I'd know in my own head what was going on and when).


To be honest, I think the people here are being very harsh on your photographer. It sounds to me like he's just warning you that he can't be held accountable of a videographer getting in the way. Which is understandable. Just sounds more like a fair warning to me (similar to the type of heads up you'll get from a photographer when you ask for "reportage"/candid-only photos, and he has to take a minute to explain the pros and cons of that).

Gatica

Misticles wrote: »

I looked through his website pics and I did like them plus his package is very good but I am kind of iffy now.

I spoke to my planner and asked if they had worked with both that could work together. They are sending me images from th guys portfolio and advised that this guy has worked with the videographer before and there were no issues as they know each other and work well together.

I just don't want pictures with the videographer lurking and that's the
Impression I get off this guy.

Were they talking about the same photographer? If that's the case then maybe KKV is right and what he said wasn't meant to come across so commanding or disrespectful to your wishes or videographers at large.
Talk to him and ask if he could maybe make the effort to meet your videographer before your big day, make a compromise on best vantage points and shots.

Misticles

hope You understand me - and my point of view with Videographer.

Videographer are always out of my control - and You need to know this

Another excerpt- definitely not going for him now. It really is like he is trying to discourage me from having one! People should be able to work together.

Yeah, that really just sounds more like a fair warning to me. He's not wording it in the friendliest way, clearly, but it's obvious what he's trying to say.

I'm sure he won't intentionally photograph the videographer out of spite. :P


Though you really need to be comfortable with your wedding photographer and if you're not feeling 100% about him then drop him. If he gives you photos at the end that you don't like, you'll only spend all your time thinking "I knew I should've gotten X or Y instead" (though I'm sure that'd happen regardless of who you get).

Misticles

If Buyers will have videographer on wedding – Buyers was informed so Videographer can be part of wedding photos. Documentary wedding photography is dynamic record of the wedding – its out of Photographer's control where and when during ceremony will be a Videographer.

I have explicity told him I do not want the videographer in any of it can be avoided.

He sent me some pictures with an example where the videographers got into the photo.

One photo was him standing behind 2 videographers taking a shot --- can see the side of their bodies and their cameras... barely seeing the couple saying their vows