Feel like i will never get a job

miss.aok

I am doing a internship at the moment and I have been told that they cant afford to take me on

I am 22, finished college last year and I searched for about 4 months for work to no avail. I eventually came across a internship that wasnt related to my degree but applied cause i was very depressed from no work.

So now in 3 weeks i will be back to nothing. I have been looking for work throughout the 9month internship, i got one interview and im still waiting to here back.

I really dont want to be at home (dads a f*** prick). I have to wait 6months before i can do a other jobbridge internship.

I just feel disheartend. My bf is a electricain and also out of work. we both want a life together but its never going to happen if we cant get a job to start saving for a house


Also my mum, nanny think i am going to get a job there always asking did they offer you a job its so annoyin cause now i have to say no.


Sometimes I feel I am great and I am going to do very well for myself cause I work hard and have a good head on me and other days i feel like I am not good at all cause no one will even give me a chance at work.

caff

Its unfortunate that you did not get a permament offer, what type of work was the internship in?

anbodhran

Emigrate lads, even for a short period. You're young, have qualifications, and would benefit from some time abroad in employment.

If you don't like it you can always come home after a year with some work experience and hopefully a few bob in savings to get yourselves started.

miss.aok

well it was in health&safety and my degree was in agriculture.

I would go abroad but i wouldnt even have the money for a plane ticket. I dont think the bf is to keen on it. he thinks the construction sector is getting better. I love his positive attitude but it will be a good few months before he gets a job id say-in the middle of sending a cv out for him to a comapny with upcoming works in intel so figures crossed

anbodhran

miss.aok wrote: »

well it was in health&safety and my degree was in agriculture.

I would go abroad but i wouldnt even have the money for a plane ticket. I dont think the bf is to keen on it. he thinks the construction sector is getting better. I love his positive attitude but it will be a good few months before he gets a job id say-in the middle of sending a cv out for him to a comapny with upcoming works in intel so figures crossed

Well sorry to hear you're finding it tough, but a plane ticket to London or anywhere else in England would cost you less than €20. If you go somewhere like that you can get set up quickly and cheaply, and even return home for that job if it comes about.

miss.aok

anbodhran wrote: »

Well sorry to hear you're finding it tough, but a plane ticket to London or anywhere else in England would cost you less than €20. If you go somewhere like that you can get set up quickly and cheaply, and even return home for that job if it comes about.

when i said that i was thinking australia.

Well i did hear that the atmosphere over there in england is much more positive then here. I will start looking at uk recruitment sites. thanks anbodhran, i would never of thought of looking there. Good idea.

anbodhran

miss.aok wrote: »

when i said that i was thinking australia.

Well i did hear that the atmosphere over there in england is much more positive then here. I will start looking at uk recruitment sites. thanks anbodhran, i would never of thought of looking there. Good idea.

No problem, best of luck with it. Australia might still be an option for you, but the UK would be a lower risk option for you to get started with.

road_high

miss.aok wrote: »

well it was in health&safety and my degree was in agriculture.

I would go abroad but i wouldnt even have the money for a plane ticket. I dont think the bf is to keen on it. he thinks the construction sector is getting better. I love his positive attitude but it will be a good few months before he gets a job id say-in the middle of sending a cv out for him to a comapny with upcoming works in intel so figures crossed

Hi I did agriculture and qualified about 6 years. Sounds like you need some cater advice as well. You mentioned the uk? The Farmers weekly us full if devnt agri jobs each week. And are you signed up to the Asa emails. Lots of agri jobs on that too every week. Lot of them Are sales and technical but would be great experience. Pm if you'd to chat further. You did an unpaid internship for 9 months that shows great initiative. But I di get the sense you ain't selling that fully?

sallywin

I immediately thought 'abroad' for you as well. If boyf didn't want to go straight away for whatever reason, why not go alone? If it doesn't work out you can always come back. You can get 6 month contracts teaching English for example, and in some cases they cover accom, etc. you could try credit union/bank for a small loan for the flight, etc. If you have proof of contract and earnings shouldn't be any bother!

Definitely, definitely, go for it, esp since it sounds like things are getting you so down right now. always best to nip these things in the bud and change direction fast.

Quit Early, Quit Often.
http://being-manju.blogspot.ie/2012/06/quit-early-quit-often.html

Jayob10

Miss aok, don't get yourself too down about it.

The lack of a job offer has nothing to do with your abilities rather its the poor economic climate we have at this moment in time. Just try and resonate with that fact and don't doubt yourself.

Secondly, don't place buying your own house as the yardstick of success. Its a move people made in the past that put them in a hell of alot more trouble than you see yourself being in now.

Finally, a year in the UK may be the best option to gain valuable experience. Tailor your CV to each individual application and make it look like you are being specific in what you want to achieve from working in the role you are applying for. Basically, don't give the employer the impression that its a generic application.

Your phone will ring one of these days with an offer and with all the bad days you have had, the offer will be all the more sweeter.

Best of luck to ya and keep your chin up.

Leif Ericson

Find myself in a similar position. Getting no response for all the CVs I'm sending out. Just checked fas.ie and jobs.ie this morning but nothing on it that I can apply for. So fed up with it at this stage, so frustrating.

Genuinely think I'm losing the plot by staying at home all day hitting F5 on various job sites.

antodeco

Im the same! Nearly 12 months with no employment. I have applied for well over 100 jobs. I have a very strong CV, which I think is the problem. I seem to have too much experience for some jobs, and not enough for other jobs, so I am stuck in limbo. I have been thinking of "dumbing down" my CV, in order to get something!

cricketfan

I've had a fair few interviews now but I'm finding that I can normally tell from the manner of the interviewers whether this is a stitch up and they are only going through the motions. Annoyingly then it's that person who questions one of my answers or gives me their view, which comes across as a put down. I know then there is some agenda.

Haven't noticed this at all interviews but a few. Obvious that some interviewers have had little or no interview training.

I've also had some interviews where I think I've done too well (?) and the person managing me would see me as a threat. Couldn't believe this but am told it's not an unusual occurrence. The present climate has a lot of younger staff better qualified than their managers.

Anyone else experiencing the same?

It's good to come on here and share thoughts with others who are in the same position. I think a lot of us are experiencing similar out there.

Bringbackrafa

I think there are a lot of us in the same unfortunate position. It could be a good idea for someone to start a thread saying the area they want to work and then list where they search for jobs. and then other people join in below listing the places they search. Could open new doors for people.

djk1000

Seems to be jobs in IT, with Government funded graduate conversion courses. Just an idea!

http://www.dit.ie/news/archive2012/graduateskillsconversioncoursehigherdiplomaincomputing/

As for your boyfriend, if he's been through a proper apprenticeship including class time learning the theory. There are jobs in computer networking and datacentres if he does some retraining.

These days, unless your very lucky or unless you emigrate, you really need to spot the few growth areas and retrain.

I'm on an IT conversion course and we've had visits from several employers trying to recruit us, they just can't get qualified people in Ireland at the moment.

sallywin

Just out of curiosity djk, are the employers taking graduates from your class on? I read an article in one of the papers where they interviewed a senior recruiter in one of the big IT companies and she said that the conversion courses are not training people sufficiently and that graduates from these courses leave without the necessary skills. She specifically mentioned bluebrick.

miss.aok

thanks for the replies, you have given me ideas on where to look abroad besides australia.


one thing that mad me very angry today is there was a eastern European girl who has been in the country 10 days and got a job in dunne stores-no lie. now i am looking and applying for all kinds of jobs and this just ticks me off. i am looking for minimum wage and i assume that's wat she will be gettin in dunnes so wat i am trying to say is the days of the irisih turning theres noses up at low paid jobs like waitress and cleaners are long gone yet some how the eastern euopean people are still getting the jobs. if i went to poland for work id b told to f-off

sallywin

Yeah I think people's attitudes are starting to change now, slowly but surely, I know mine have since the recession kicked in. Now that so many Irish can't get work it's no longer acceptable or right that so many foreigners seem to be working in Aldi, Lidl, Penney's, bars, coffee shops, etc. and these are jobs plenty of Irish want.

djk1000

sallywin wrote: »

Just out of curiosity djk, are the employers taking graduates from your class on? I read an article in one of the papers where they interviewed a senior recruiter in one of the big IT companies and she said that the conversion courses are not training people sufficiently and that graduates from these courses leave without the necessary skills. She specifically mentioned bluebrick.

Not sure what course she's talking about, but the one I linked to is being run in several Institutes of Technology, none of them are finished their first run yet so none of us have been in the workplace yet. The employers are definitely taking people on and the courses were designed in consultation with employers, the course content is what the employers asked for.

Topper7

miss.aok wrote: »

well it was in health&safety and my degree was in agriculture.

Im in the exact same boat! Degree in Food/Agriculture, finished last year also, 23, & now there is no work in the sector. Its so depressing, especially when you hear stories of other people getting work & you feel you would be more suited to the role than they would! & to make things worse there is now another few hundred graduates with the same qualifaction!

mfitzy wrote: »

Hi I did agriculture and qualified about 6 years. Sounds like you need some cater advice as well. You mentioned the uk? The Farmers weekly us full if devnt agri jobs each week. And are you signed up to the Asa emails. Lots of agri jobs on that too every week. Lot of them Are sales and technical but would be great experience. Pm if you'd to chat further. You did an unpaid internship for 9 months that shows great initiative. But I di get the sense you ain't selling that fully?

Im getting them ASA emails every week but they are nearly all for Agricultural sales and/or people with 4-5 years expierence. I tried sales in a different life & found it too difficult (didnt really believe in the product & found it hard to close the deal) Ill have a look at the farmers weekly when I get my hands on 1.

A lot of ppl are saying to leave here. TBH I really dont want too, I would rather stay close to family & what few friends are still here, but I feel I have no other option. I went back & done another course over last 4 months to keep myself occupied & this will be finisheing soon but still doesnt look like I will be getting a job with this either (finished in 3 weeks)! Looks like there is only 1 option for us miss.aok!

sallywin

djk1000 wrote: »

Not sure what course she's talking about, but the one I linked to is being run in several Institutes of Technology, none of them are finished their first run yet so none of us have been in the workplace yet. The employers are definitely taking people on and the courses were designed in consultation with employers, the course content is what the employers asked for.

She was talking about the IT conversion courses. And it was in the context of employers headhunting for IT talent so the point that the courses aren't yet finished isn't relevant. She said that people are doing these courses but that many lack an innate talent and have moved into it because they have heard there are a lot of jobs in the area. Harsh words but this was from a senior recruiter. It was in the Independent's Business Section if I remember correctly. Just want to warn people. It sounds great that there are supposedly 2000 IT jobs out there but it's not as simple as it sounds.

Someone from one of the courses wrote into the Independent back in early April to say that him and his classmates were finding it hard to line up work with employers for when they graduated. This guy said he had even contacted employers on speculation, had sent out numerous cvs, but was getting nowhere. That is odd for courses that are supposed to be 'conversion courses'. Remember that this is the time of year prospective employers visit colleges to take on graduates and that they accept applications for summer interns, etc.

Naked Lepper

miss.aok wrote: »

when i said that i was thinking australia.

Well i did hear that the atmosphere over there in england is much more positive then here. I will start looking at uk recruitment sites. thanks anbodhran, i would never of thought of looking there. Good idea.

im very surprised that you never thought about going to the UK for work!

miss.aok

Topper7 wrote: »

Im in the exact same boat! Degree in Food/Agriculture, finished last year also, 23, & now there is no work in the sector. Its so depressing, especially when you hear stories of other people getting work & you feel you would be more suited to the role than they would! & to make things worse there is now another few hundred graduates with the same qualifaction!

UCD? we probably no each other.

ye it all seems to be sales in agriculture something I wouldnt enjoy at all.
I was looking at springboard but theres no postgrad course even close to what i done.

catk123

Hi guys,

I'm new here was looking for info about the jobbridge internships. I'm reading all the threads about jobbridge and can't really find an answer or anyone who is in the same situation as me.

I got so sick of applying for jobs and hearing nothing that I ended up applying for an internship I started one about 3 weeks ago but i really don't like it at all I'm getting all the complicated and S**t jobs to do and can't seem to keep anything my boss shows me in my brain at all lol, I feel like such a fool. Really not fitting in out there. I'm a quiet and shy person and hate complaining but i really don't like it. I think my boss hates me and thinks I'm stupid too lol. I feel sick everyday going in there. I was just wondering if anyone had info about what to do? If i leave will i be cut off of the dole? or is the only way out of it to get a job?

I havent said anything to my boss or the dole yet as I am afraid I will be cut off or get sacked.

Any info would really help me

Thanks

christmas2012

I was on a free labour scheme and it sucked i ended up putting up with bull**** for so long i had to say enough was enough and i complained to the co ordinator of the fas scheme about the behaviour of a few staff members,try and get the person who is in charge of the scheme on side,and if they can see your story and sympathise youre half way there,i would advise you to get a transfer to a different free labour job if you can..

catk123

Cheers for the reply Christmas.

I know how u feel lol . do u mind if i ask, did u actually leave or transfer from the scheme urself? and if so how did u go about it?

Thanks again
Catk

Topper7

miss.aok wrote: »

Topper7 wrote: »

Im in the exact same boat! Degree in Food/Agriculture, finished last year also, 23, & now there is no work in the sector. Its so depressing, especially when you hear stories of other people getting work & you feel you would be more suited to the role than they would! & to make things worse there is now another few hundred graduates with the same qualifaction!

UCD? we probably no each other.

ye it all seems to be sales in agriculture something I wouldnt enjoy at all.
I was looking at springboard but theres no postgrad course even close to what i done.

Ya UCD, careers office rang me there not so long ago asking about my employment status for some survey. They said I could pop into them & they will help me out whatever way they can CV interview skills etc. Ive bein told that my CV is good & answer everything well in interviews but there is always somebody better, more expierenced etc.

Mrs OBumble

miss.aok wrote: »

one thing that mad me very angry today is there was a eastern European girl who has been in the country 10 days and got a job in dunne stores-no lie. now i am looking and applying for all kinds of jobs and this just ticks me off. i am looking for minimum wage and i assume that's wat she will be gettin in dunnes so wat i am trying to say is the days of the irisih turning theres noses up at low paid jobs like waitress and cleaners are long gone yet some how the eastern euopean people are still getting the jobs. if i went to poland for work id b told to f-off

Well, I've just had a right laugh about the fact that you think it's ok for you, an Irish person, to look for jobs in the UK or Australia - but it's not ok for Eastern European people, who are as legally entitled to work here, to get jobs here.


But now I've finished laughing, I'm going to put on my moderator hat, and say:

1) No text-speak please. Typos we can live with. b, wat, no apostrophes, etc, we can't. It's a boards.ie rule, please observe it.

2) Please be civilised. In my book, that means keeping racist thoughts to yourself.



/moderation.

Tigger

sallywin wrote: »

Yeah I think people's attitudes are starting to change now, slowly but surely, I know mine have since the recession kicked in. Now that so many Irish can't get work it's no longer acceptable or right that so many foreigners seem to be working in Aldi, Lidl, Penney's, bars, coffee shops, etc. and these are jobs plenty of Irish want.

how do you mean?

lightningbug

Some of the replies here are bordering on racist. Anyone, regardless of nationality has the right to work here. If a person passes an interview they clearly deserve the job.

miss.aok

lightningbug wrote: »

Some of the replies here are bordering on racist. Anyone, regardless of nationality has the right to work here. If a person passes an interview they clearly deserve the job.

I am not racist one bit. In the dunne stores case as i mentioned, the person was in the country just over a week and lands the job- weired since hundreds of irish people are putting there cv into dunnes every week- hundreds of over qualified people apply for jobs in dunnes and one person from another country with little english better then them?

this is not a racist issue it is a company issue. irish no there rights-new people to the country dont.

Topper7

miss.aok wrote: »

irish no there rights-new people to the country dont.

Honestly Ive worked with many foreign nationals. Most are good honest workers & work hard to make money so they can raise their children etc. But there is also a group who know their rights & entitlements and play the Irish tax/social welfare system far better than you or I!

Anyways back on topic, missaok have you looked at any of the gradutae programmes that a lot of food companies seem to be offering? There are a few still advertising on their website, but a lot have all ready hired from the 2012 class.

Magenta

miss.aok wrote: »

I am not racist one bit. In the dunne stores case as i mentioned, the person was in the country just over a week and lands the job- weired since hundreds of irish people are putting there cv into dunnes every week- hundreds of over qualified people apply for jobs in dunnes and one person from another country with little english better then them?

this is not a racist issue it is a company issue. irish no there rights-new people to the country dont.

Your own English is pretty woeful. Maybe learn to speak your own language before slagging off a foreigner's knowledge of it.
If you type that badly on your CV it's little wonder you can't find a job.