Pyrimids, Energy Lines and Astrology

shanered

I am just after watching "The Pyrimid Code" series on Netflixs, it brings up some nice theories on the pyrimids that differ from the conventional tomb theories about the pyrimids.
It talks about the amazing astrology of the pyrimids in which the replicate constallations and are along energy lines.
Does anybody know anything more about these energy lines?
They say stonehenge is along one of these and the giza pyrimids are along a crossing of these lines.
There is a theory that these energy line have special magnetic properties which emit from the earth and could have been used in some way to harness electricity.
I always wondered about newgrange and its astrological connections and the fact that it is older then the pyrimids and is built with stone similar to the pyrimids in that they where transported great distances which would challange our view of the technology available to the builders of it.

I would like to see if anybody know anything more about the theories about the pyrimids and that they where used for generating electricity, I remember seeing a program about this detailling the chambers and there possible function as a power plant.
Any info on the subject would be great.
And if anybody can make any connections between the pyrimids and Newgrange would be nice to hear what you think.

Monty Burnz

shanered wrote: »

I am just after watching "The Pyrimid Code" series on Netflixs, it brings up some nice theories on the pyrimids that differ from the conventional tomb theories about the pyrimids.
It talks about the amazing astrology of the pyrimids in which the replicate constallations and are along energy lines.
Does anybody know anything more about these energy lines?

They say stonehenge is along one of these and the giza pyrimids are along a crossing of these lines.

Well, in terms of science, they don't exist. From a New Age perspective, they are wherever you claim they are (seeing as their existence cannot be proved).

shanered wrote: »

There is a theory that these energy line have special magnetic properties which emit from the earth and could have been used in some way to harness electricity.

But there is no special magnetism there - if there was, it could be demonstrated quite easily and this would be in the realms of science rather than the paranormal.

shanered wrote: »

I always wondered about newgrange and its astrological connections and the fact that it is older then the pyrimids and is built with stone similar to the pyrimids in that they where transported great distances which would challange our view of the technology available to the builders of it.

I saw a book about that in an Oxfam bookshop the other day called 'Uriel's Machine' - I didn't get a chance to look at it though, but you might find it interesting. The astrological alignments are fascinating - I guess it was very important to ancient people in terms of knowing where they were in the year for harvests etc., and there wasn't much on telly to watch at night.

shanered wrote: »

I would like to see if anybody know anything more about the theories about the pyrimids and that they where used for generating electricity, I remember seeing a program about this detailling the chambers and there possible function as a power plant.
Any info on the subject would be great.
And if anybody can make any connections between the pyrimids and Newgrange would be nice to hear what you think.

I don't believe there is a link - I used to be very interested in Graham Hancock's ideas about the pyramids at Giza, but having learned a bit more about it, it seems that he unfortunately relies on a lot of claims and old research that have been proven false since. It's a pity - he tells a fantastic story.

studiorat

shanered wrote: »

I always wondered about newgrange and its astrological connections and the fact that it is older then the pyrimids and is built with stone similar to the pyrimids in that they where transported great distances which would challange our view of the technology available to the builders of it.

They are similar in that they both use stone, that's about it. Most of Newgrange's stones are local. The decorative ones were transported in , possibly by boat. They also differ from the Pyramids by the fact that these large stones were not quarried. They were collected. I also think they are mostly sandstone.

The Egyptian pyramids are quarried blocks of limestone. Hoofed over great distances.

Interestingly newer dating techniques have placed the pyramids to be build at nearly the same time as Newgrange.

What I found interesting is the research done into the acoustics of Newgrange and hypothesis' of the sort of ritual that could have been held there.

Monty Burnz

studiorat wrote: »

What I found interesting is the research done into the acoustics of Newgrange and hypothesis' of the sort of ritual that could have been held there.

Have they moved Newgrange forwards? I thought that the dates for the pyramids at Giza were pretty well established?

Interesting.

studiorat

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Have they moved Newgrange forwards? I thought that the dates for the pyramids at Giza were pretty well established?

Interesting.

No, the they moved Giza back. Not sure when they did, around 1983 and again in 1995 I believe. It still is older but only by a few centuries. The now reckon Giza is about 4,500 years old. still 500 years in the difference though.

Checking that back actually I noticed that the Pyramid limestone is actually quite local. The granite used in the actual chambers themselves is from nearly 500KM away in Aswan.

Joshua J

You're looking for ley lines. There's precious little on lone about them though. If I remember correctly one of the strongest "crossover points" in europe is queen Mabhs grave in Sligo.

shanered

studiorat wrote: »

What I found interesting is the research done into the acoustics of Newgrange and hypothesis' of the sort of ritual that could have been held there.

This reminds me about some programme I was watching about a nun and a group of kids that went into some caves in malta and dissapeared.
Most of the show when on about the shape of the stone inside the caves causes quite amazing acoustics and how it could have been used in such rituals.

Daithi 1

I recall reading about how the pyramids were used to power the whole of Egypt. Pretty interesting theory, it went on to say that the arch of the covenant may have been a kind of battery or transformer or something, used within or on top of the Giza pyramid to help generate electricity.

It's also evident now that whoever built the pyramids were familiar with the metric system which was supposed to be introduced in the 1800's. They also knew of the Fibonacci series as the 'golden number' is found throughout the pyramids, so many times that it can't be coincidence.

I think I seen a similar documentary to the one you are talking about. I remember a red line circling the Earth and through it's path are many of the worlds oldest and most notable historical sites.. I'll try find it so others will know what i'm on about. Was it related to the precession of the equinox also ?

Interesting stuff, to say the least.

EDIT :

Skip to 35 mins.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjKYQN_ZX70

Monty Burnz

Daithi 1 wrote: »

I recall reading about how the pyramids were used to power the whole of Egypt. Pretty interesting theory, it went on to say that the arch of the covenant may have been a kind of battery or transformer or something, used within or on top of the Giza pyramid to help generate electricity.

This is a fairly unsupported claim though - powered what? Not a single trace of anything has been found to suggest that electricity was used at that time. There is a fascinating 'battery' that was found that dates to ancient Sumeria or something (actually, I think Bagdhad was involved now that I think of it), but nobody really knows what that was used for if it was a battery at all. Certainly not for powering ancient TVs or espresso machines.

Daithi 1 wrote: »

It's also evident now that whoever built the pyramids were familiar with the metric system which was supposed to be introduced in the 1800's. They also knew of the Fibonacci series as the 'golden number' is found throughout the pyramids, so many times that it can't be coincidence.

I don't know of any evidence for the metric system claim (which was invented out of thin air based on an incorrect estimate of the circumference of the earth), but the Fibonacci stuff is very interesting. The number 'pi', supposedly discovered by the Greeks 2000 years later is also used in the pyramid, but I've heard a good explanation of how this could have got in there by chance due to the way the pyramid was designed - basically a guy walking in a circle around a central pole with a piece of rope, marking out the corners.

Daithi 1 wrote: »

I think I seen a similar documentary to the one you are talking about. I remember a red line circling the Earth and through it's path are many of the worlds oldest and most notable historical sites.. I'll try find it so others will know what i'm on about. Was it related to the precession of the equinox also ?

I really can't put any credence into 'ley lines' - if a genuine force existed there, it would have been scientifically detected and explored hundreds of years ago.

Edit: Daithí - that video seems to rely a lot on Graham Hancock's stuff, or at least stuff he aggregates. You might be very interested in "The Fingerprints of the Gods" - a great yarn about a pre-deluge civilisation. Unfortunately, as I said, Hancock relies on a lot of stuff that was already discredited by the time he was compiling the book, but it's still a fun read.

Daithi 1

I believe this image is supposed to be a representation of a light bulb, somewhat similar to the Baghdad battery. There is talk of it in the doc I posted above, as is the use of the metric system which by the way is well worth a watch in it's entirety.

I believe the official explanation is that it's a fruit or vegetable of sorts.

studiorat

Daddy Daddy, look at that man with the big mickey!!!

Nonsense that's an er, lightbulb, yeah a lightbulb...

hooradiation

Daithi 1 wrote: »

It's also evident now that whoever built the pyramids were familiar with the metric system

wait - the metric system or a base 10 numbering system?

Because the Egyptians used a base 10 numbering system, much like we (and the metric system) do, but they're not quite the same thing as the metric system.

Daithi 1

hooradiation wrote: »

wait - the metric system or a base 10 numbering system?

Because the Egyptians used a base 10 numbering system, much like we (and the metric system) do, but they're not quite the same thing as the metric system.

Yeah but apparently evidence has come to light that they knew the metric system.

Monty Burnz

Daithi 1 wrote: »

Yeah but apparently evidence has come to light that they knew the metric system.

I think I see where the claim comes from: they subtract the golden ratio from pi and come to a figure of .523.... (lots of decimals). They then say that the Egyptian cubit was 52.36...cm long, therefore the cubit was derived from this calculation.

I (wearing my logic hat) would point out that the surviving cubit measures are between 52.3 and 52.9 centimetres long. If we can agree that measures are more likely to have bits worn off them than worn onto them over thousands of years, then it seems the cubit was in actuality at least 52.9 cm long (assuming zero wear on the longest surviving measure) - half a centimetre longer than the figure derived from subtracting one of the ratios from the other. Very nearly another remarkable coincidence though.

I love this pyramid stuff.

Daithi 1

Hmm, you make a valid point.

The Fibonacci stuff is undeniable though. So..

Monty Burnz

Daithi 1 wrote: »

The Fibonacci stuff is undeniable though. So..

Definitely, but that's what I thought about the Pi stuff too - perhaps a logical explanation will come out eventually? The weird thing is that so many coincidences (or non-coincidences) occur in the one building (Khufu's pyramid). I think there are 3 possible explanations:

1. These numbers (like pi) are 'encoded' in the building purely as a result of the tools that were used to build it.

2. The number of these numbers/coincidences found is a function of how much time so many people have spent looking at the building - i.e. if you got thousands of people to spend thousands of hours looking at the proportions and orientation of (a random building - say Leinster House), how many weird coincidences would you find?

3. Some of the 'coincidences' are genuine coincidence, but some of them are not and reveal that certain mathematical knowledge is at least twice as old as we thought it was.

I'm not sure where to come down on these three options - I move between the three as my mood changes.

On another note, have you looked into the 'Orion' theory proposed by Robert Bauval, which suggests that the pyramids at Giza are meant to mirror the stars of Orion's belt, with the Nile standing in for the Milky Way?

Seriously, get a cheap copy of 'Fingerprints of the Gods' from Ebay or Amazon - there's loads of great reading in there, even if a good chunk of it has been soundly debunked.

Daithi 1

Daithi 1 wrote: »

I think I seen a similar documentary to the one you are talking about. I remember a red line circling the Earth and through it's path are many of the worlds oldest and most notable historical sites.. I'll try find it so others will know what i'm on about. Was it related to the precession of the equinox also ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjKYQN_ZX70

There's a few problems with this idea presented in the documentary.
They decide that anything within 100 km of the line counts, but this seems to be totally arbitrary and designed to make it seem more convincing.
A strip going around the Earth that's 200 km side to side would cover nearly 2 percent of the earth's surface. And by making sure that it pass near the Mediterranean, the middle east and India, there would be tons of ancient sites to decide are significant.

And of course they are repeating myths that have been debunked for a while, particularly the idea that the Dogon tribe had some sort of alien connection.

The same goes for leylines, if you have enough points and your criteria are lax enough you can find as many alignments between as many things as you'd like.

enno99

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Definitely, but that's what I thought about the Pi stuff too - perhaps a logical explanation will come out eventually? The weird thing is that so many coincidences (or non-coincidences) occur in the one building (Khufu's pyramid). I think there are 3 possible explanations:

1. These numbers (like pi) are 'encoded' in the building purely as a result of the tools that were used to build it.

2. The number of these numbers/coincidences found is a function of how much time so many people have spent looking at the building - i.e. if you got thousands of people to spend thousands of hours looking at the proportions and orientation of (a random building - say Leinster House), how many weird coincidences would you find?

3. Some of the 'coincidences' are genuine coincidence, but some of them are not and reveal that certain mathematical knowledge is at least twice as old as we thought it was.

I'm not sure where to come down on these three options - I move between the three as my mood changes.

On another note, have you looked into the 'Orion' theory proposed by Robert Bauval, which suggests that the pyramids at Giza are meant to mirror the stars of Orion's belt, with the Nile standing in for the Milky Way?

Seriously, get a cheap copy of 'Fingerprints of the Gods' from Ebay or Amazon - there's loads of great reading in there, even if a good chunk of it has been soundly debunked.

I have to agree the pyramid mysteries are facinating

What would you think of the possibility that the pyramids were 10,000+ years old and were actualy built using the metric system and was lost for thousands of years


and the later egyptians devised the cubit from the measurement,s found in the kings chamber which I think is where the 52.36cm comes from

Some suggest that some of cubit rods of different lenghts that were found might have been funeary items an not meant to be accurate

And the french found the metric system and other secrets with the rosetta stone and decided to keep it and put it out as their own
I am thinking of freemasonry here (it is a ct forum after all)and the age of enlightenment and all that


This magnetic stuff is :eek:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EEW44onpHc

Monty Burnz

enno99 wrote: »

I have to agree the pyramid mysteries are facinating

What would you think of the possibility that the pyramids were 10,000+ years old

Hancock and others argue that the whole site points to a picture of the sky as it looked in (from memory) 10,000 BCE, and that one of the small shafts from the 'Queens Chamber'(?) points at where a certain star would have been at a particularly important time of the year at that date (or something - I read this stuff more than a decade ago!). On the other hand, the building date of the pyramids at Giza is pretty well established by archaeologists, and I think that Hancock and co. have rowed back from that claim but suggest that the site was laid down or designed to point to that date for some reason.

On the other hand, a guy called 'Schoch' or something, a geologist, claims that weathering patterns on the Sphinx suggest that it was built circa that time as the erosion on the stone around its enclosure was a type that could only be caused by massive rainfall - not seen there since ten thousand years ago plus. Of course, his claim was countered by others suggesting that he didn't allow for the particular type of stone involved, the action of sand erosion etc. etc. - I'm not sure where the controversy on this stands. But an interesting observation made (by someone) is that the Sphinx points towards where the constellation of Leo would have appeared on the horizon...in 10,000 BCE...

Like I said, lots of this stuff has been countered or debunked, but it's still fascinating.

enno99 wrote: »

and were actualy built using the metric system and was lost for thousands of years and the later egyptians devised the cubit from the measurement,s found in the kings chamber which I think is where the 52.36cm comes from

I don't think so - the metre is an arbitrary length with its own history. From Wikipedia:

Timeline of definition
1790 May 8 – The French National Assembly decides that the length of the new metre would be equal to the length of a pendulum with a half-period of one second.
1791 March 30 – The French National Assembly accepts the proposal by the French Academy of Sciences that the new definition for the metre be equal to one ten-millionth of the length of the Earth's meridian along a quadrant through Paris, that is the distance from the equator to the north pole.
1795 – Provisional metre bar constructed of brass.
1799 December 10 – The French National Assembly specifies the platinum metre bar, constructed on 23 June 1799 and deposited in the National Archives, as the final standard.
1889 September 28 – The first General Conference on Weights and Measures (CGPM) defines the metre as the distance between two lines on a standard bar of an alloy of platinum with ten percent iridium, measured at the melting point of ice.
1927 October 6 – The seventh CGPM adjusts the definition of the metre to be the distance, at 0 °C, between the axes of the two central lines marked on the prototype bar of platinum-iridium, this bar being subject to one standard atmosphere of pressure and supported on two cylinders of at least one centimetre diameter, symmetrically placed in the same horizontal plane at a distance of 571 millimetres from each other.
1960 October 14 – The 11th CGPM defines the metre to be equal to 1,650,763.73 wavelengths in vacuum of the radiation corresponding to the transition between the 2p10 and 5d5 quantum levels of the krypton-86 atom.[19]
1983 October 21 – The 17th CGPM defines the metre as equal to the length of the path travelled by light in vacuum during a time interval of 1⁄299,792,458 of a second.[20]
2002 – The International Committee for Weights and Measures (CIPM) considers the metre to be a unit of proper length and thus recommends this definition be restricted to "lengths ℓ which are sufficiently short for the effects predicted by general relativity to be negligible with respect to the uncertainties of realisation".[21]

So you see the metre was derived independently from any pre-existing measure, so any similarity could only be coincidence.

enno99 wrote: »

Some suggest that some of cubit rods of different lenghts that were found might have been funeary items an not meant to be accurate

Possible, I suppose!

enno99 wrote: »

And the french found the metric system and other secrets with the rosetta stone and decided to keep it and put it out as their own

But how would they have found it? They found a metre stick? Or a formula? Bear in mind that the moves to formalise the 'metre' measurement were started in 1791, and Napoleon didn't get to Egypt until 1798 or so by which time the original metre bar had already been made.

enno99 wrote: »

I am thinking of freemasonry here (it is a ct forum after all)and the age of enlightenment and all that


This magnetic stuff is :eek:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EEW44onpHc

Yeah, I have my doubts about any magnetic claims as they can be investigated by conventional means - magnetism is science.

enno99

Thanks good info

The metric thing was just a mad notion

I think Hancock maintains that it was laid out to be in line with Orions belt at about 10,500 which is around the same time as the sphinx and Leo theory

Daithi 1

Yeah good info, cheers monty !

Who yous talkin about, Graham Handcock ?

Heres a possible explanation of electricity production.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnaDFssUslk

Monty Burnz

Daithi 1 wrote: »

Yeah good info, cheers monty !

Who yous talkin about, Graham Handcock ?

This is the guy. He's had several documentaries made too, you should be able to find them on Youtube. Just to re-state the warning, he relies on a lot of old research or claims that have since been dismissed, debunked or discredited, but he tells a great yarn and of course some of the stuff hasn't yet been 'properly' explained as far as I know.

Daithi 1

Yeah thats him, I find his theories quite fascinating...

Tried ayahuasca a few months ago after listening to him talking about it.

enno99

The Lost Pyramids & Hidden Ancient Artifacts

well worth a watch if you like this stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFHwKmHfdo8

Daithi 1

Seen that one, mind blowing. Klaus is brilliant, if you can handle the voice.

Channel Zero

Here's Hancocks 3-part, Quest for the Lost Civilisation.

Part 1: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xph253_quest-for-the-lost-civilization-1-heaven-s-mirror_webcam

Part 2: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xph2rj_quest-for-the-lost-civilization-2-forgotten-knowledge_webcam

Part 3: http://veeneo.com/watch/1565556


It's the dogs danglies.

especially while ripped:pac:.

Daithi 1

Heres another one from Klaus and Camelot. Brilliant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmMwo1Xzgus

Daithi 1

Interesting link, kinda relates to this thread in the sense of possible highly advanced civilization from the past.

http://www.messagetoeagle.com/forgottencontroversial.php

shanered

Its always great to explore these lines of inquiry, so interesting the things that are thrown up, even the theories provide fascinating reading!