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Can My ISP See Sites I Visit, Read My Emails?

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  • 09-06-2012 8:25am
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    Registered Users Posts: 296 ✭✭


    Can my ISP see sites I visit, read my emails, etc.?

    I use a local wireless broadband provider, and I have been told that apart from simply monitoring my download usage, they also have the capability to see precisely what I download, the sites I visit, and even read my private emails. Is this correct, and if so is there anyway to prevent it?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,456 ✭✭✭FSL


    Theoretically yes. Unless you access your emails using a secure connection (SSL) then they could see your emails. The same applies to every ISP.

    Even if you use a VPN the VPN provider could log and monitor.


  • Registered Users Posts: 126 ✭✭infodox


    If they own your DNS, they can probably do some awesome MITM and own your SSL anyways, so that is useless... SO yes. Assume your ISP can see everything you do, and act accordingly. Use a VPN and check the crypto to make sure it is not being MITM'd (impossible supposedly, but can actually be done if key-checking is weak).

    Oh, they can also see how many boxes are alive on your network, etc.
    Care to say which company?


  • Registered Users Posts: 296 ✭✭pat13wx


    Thanks guys for the info. My ISP provider is Premier Broadband (Based in Clonmel). I have to say they really provide a decent BB service, and I have no issue there, but I am concerned that my private emails may be read; there is nothing illegal in them, but some would contain personal family or business information that I would rather not share with people they weren't intended for.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,691 ✭✭✭JimmyCrackCorn


    Yes they can it's not complicated.

    Ssl is a little more difficult to monitor and most ISPs won't monitor it except in bandwidth usage.

    Email should be checked over ssl connections but not always.

    The Sopa the monitoring will be more in depth :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 296 ✭✭pat13wx


    So, I guess there's little I can do to prevent it completely. I am hopeful they don't bother as it would be unethical (and I am sure unlawful) to pry into one's private communications.

    Is there anyway to tell if an ISP has checked your emails?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 126 ✭✭infodox


    There is no real way to check are they reading them, though I can think of a few hilarious ones... Like sending OBVIOUS ILLEGAL STUFF over email and seeing do they call the cops :P

    I know there are ways to detect if someone on your LAN is sniffing (i.e. ways to check is anyones network card in promiscous mode) but no real way to find out.

    Sure... ANY ISP can look through your traffic. Its simple as that...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,700 ✭✭✭tricky D


    Data Protection Act, 1988 sections 2 to 8 set out the law on 'Protection of Privacy of Individuals with regard to Personal Data'. http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1988/en/act/pub/0025/print.html

    Basically they can't snoop on you.

    There's also the matter of not having the time or manpower resources to do such monitoring.


    It's not something you need to worry about at all.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,456 ✭✭✭FSL


    Because something is illegal it doesn't mean it will never be done.

    I agree it is highly unlikely any ISP would have the manpower and resources or the inclination.

    However if big brother wanted to monitor you then I doubt the ISP would refuse.


  • Registered Users Posts: 296 ✭✭pat13wx


    Thanks lads for all great feedback. I would hope my boring life would be enough of a discouragement to anyone thinking about going through my stuff :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 882 ✭✭✭moneymad


    infodox wrote: »
    There is no real way to check are they reading them, though I can think of a few hilarious ones... Like sending OBVIOUS ILLEGAL STUFF over email and seeing do they call the cops :P

    I know there are ways to detect if someone on your LAN is sniffing (i.e. ways to check is anyones network card in promiscous mode) but no real way to find out.

    Sure... ANY ISP can look through your traffic. Its simple as that...
    They uses switches now on lans not hubs.
    You can use transparent gifs with an src of your choosing.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 126 ✭✭infodox


    moneymad - with WiFi networks it may as well be a hub... Allows for TCP stream hijacking, promisc mode sniffing, and certain kinds of "MITM" style attacks without even redirecting their traffic through you ;) Reminds me of old ethernet networks...


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,811 ✭✭✭BaconZombie


    That will not detect/stop the ISP from viewing your traffic
    They can just create a SPAN of all the traffic and send it to a deep packet inspection system.

    And for anybody how things this is not going on right now:

    http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/nanog/users/152996?search_string=ISPs%20and%20full%20packet%20inspection;#152996

    moneymad wrote: »
    They uses switches now on lans not hubs.
    You can use transparent gifs with an src of your choosing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 141 ✭✭noclee


    They could & do just inject /32 prefix of the user they want to dpi and attract it to the DPI platform and handoff back PE - CE via tunneling.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,540 ✭✭✭freeze4real


    Is sopa ready in action ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭_AVALANCHE_


    Is sopa ready in action ?
    Why? What are you doing?:pac:
    DeVore wrote: »
    Its in effect yes. We made such a stink about it that it isn't being widely used but the ISPAI have said that their members have been on the receiving end of letters using it.

    The CRC is now reviewing submissions and we've put in ours and I've assisted with another. Hopefully that brings some sanity to the situation.
    From here.


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