‘Dead' boy wakes up and asks for water at funeral in Brazil

DubDJ

Very freaky if it's actually true.

A TWO-YEAR-OLD boy sat up in his coffin and asked for water before laying back down again lifeless, according to a Brazilian news website.


Website ORM claimed that Kelvin Santos stopped breathing during treatment for pneumonia at a hospital in Belem, northern Brazil.

He was declared dead at 7.40pm on Friday and his body was handed over to his family in a plastic bag.

The child's devastated family took him home where grieving relatives held a wake throughout the night, with the boy's body laid in an open coffin.

But an hour before his funeral was due to take place on Saturday the boy apparently sat up in his coffin and said: "Daddy, can I have some water?".

The boy's father, Antonio Santos, said: "Everybody started to scream, we couldn't believe our eyes. Then we thought a miracle had taken place and our boy had come back to life.

"Then Kelvin just laid back down, the way he was. We couldn't wake him. He was dead again."

Mr Santos rushed his son back to the Aberlardo Santos hospital in Belem,where the doctors reexamined the boy and confirmed that he had no signs of life.

He said: "They assured me that he really was dead and gave me no explanation for what we had just seen and heard."

The boy's family decided to delay the funeral for an hour in the hope that he would wake up again, but ended up burying him at 5pm that day in a local cemetery.

Convinced that his son was victim of medical malpractice, Mr Santos has now registered a complaint with the police who have launched an investigation

He said: "Fifteen minutes after rushing him away for resuscitation, they came and told me he was dead and handed me his body. Perhaps they didn't examine him properly. Dead people don't just wake up and talk. I'm determined to find out the truth."

The local state department today confirmed the boy had been admitted to hospital in a critical condition and was declared dead after suffering cardiac-respiratory failure.

Original story here.

MagicMarker

Bollocks.

mongdesade

I'm calling 'Shenanigans' !

My name is URL

I dunno, but I've heard of similar things happening

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/25/man-wakes-after-21-hours-in-morgue-fridge_n_908886.html

http://voices.yahoo.com/dead-woman-comes-back-life-1492963.html

Lazarus syndrome

who what when

MagicMarker wrote: »

Bollocks.

Thanks for putting us straight all seeing, all knowing one!

Rocket19

If he was so sure that the boy wasn't really dead, and is planning an investigation, why on earth did they go ahead and bury him anyway lol?
Poor child...

Though of course I think this story is bullsh*t, it's kinda sick someone would play this kind of game regarding their dead two year old.

Will I Amnt

Bollocks and shenanigans.
Trying to make money off the death of your child is about as low as you can get.

MagicMarker

who what when wrote: »

Thanks for putting us straight all seeing, all knowing one!

My pleasure.

smash

But the most important thing is that he didn't try to eat someone's face... he's a good zombie!

PizzamanIRL

Bull****, nobody would bury their son if he supposedly came back to life once already.

Battered Mars Bar

I remember years back some remote island had people waking up from the "dead" all the time. They had bells fitted in the graves eventually incase anyone else woke up. T'was some disease that slowed their heart, pulse etc and gave the illusion that they were dead to an untrained eye or a hasty doctor. Very plausible that the kid wasn't dead at all to begin with. Hope they got it right the second time :pac:

davet82

lazarus syndrome - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lazarus_syndrome

stovelid

Hate to say it but would this claim somewhat help the complaint they are pursuing against the hospital?

SafeSurfer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxWS1ufr5xI

number10a

The boy's family decided to delay the funeral for an hour in the hope that he would wake up again, but ended up burying him at 5pm that day in a local cemetery.

Riiiight. So, the boy's family are convinced that he could still be alive, but they bury him anyway.

MagicMarker

Battered Mars Bar wrote: »

I remember years back some remote island had people waking up from the "dead" all the time. They had bells fitted in the graves eventually incase anyone else woke up. T'was some disease that slowed their heart, pulse etc and gave the illusion that they were dead to an untrained eye or a hasty doctor. Very plausible that the kid wasn't dead at all to begin with. Hope they got it right the second time :pac:

Jesus, how fúcking old are you?

davet82

MagicMarker wrote: »

Jesus, how fúcking old are you?

he is 34 but only 5 in the mind

My name is URL

cambo2008 wrote: »

Bollocks and shenanigans.
Trying to make money off the death of your child is about as low as you can get.

And you know that's what they are trying to do, how exactly?

smash

davet82 wrote: »

lazarus syndrome - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lazarus_syndrome

After a few days though? Sure the blood will have clotted and rigor mortis will have happened long ago, how could the body move?

Battered Mars Bar

MagicMarker wrote: »

Jesus, how fúcking old are you?

I saw it on tele box when I was a nipper, think it happened in the 50's or 1850's I don't know I don't really remember. :pac:

My name is URL

smash wrote: »

After a few days though? Sure the blood will have clotted and rigor mortis will have happened long ago, how could the body move?

It wasn't a few days later, it was the next day. See the links I posted earlier.. in one case it was 21 hours, and the other was 17 1/2 hours.

Battered Mars Bar

davet82 wrote: »

he is 34 but only 5 in the mind

5 and a half

Lapin

They should have just given the poor kid the water he asked for instead of screaming and frightning the poor lad to death.

davet82

smash wrote: »

After a few days though? Sure the blood will have clotted and rigor mortis will have happened long ago, how could the body move?

it was the best i could come up with, looks like this is a case for mulder and scully then

celtictiger32

well brazil is a hot country he must of been dead thirsty:D

davet82

celtictiger32 wrote: »

well brazil is a hot country he must of been dead thirsty:D

BOOOO!! GTFO! :P

SEPT 23 1989

I had a hamster who did that

davet82

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

I had a hamster who did that

:eek:
seriously?!?

he asked you for a glass of water?

micropig

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

I had a hamster who did that

He called you Daddy?

stovelid

Maybe he'll make a comeback at Easter.

Will I Amnt

My name is URL wrote: »

cambo2008 wrote: »

Bollocks and shenanigans.
Trying to make money off the death of your child is about as low as you can get.

And you know that's what they are trying to do, how exactly?

Educated guess

celtictiger32

brazilian hamster??

MisterEpicurus

DubDJ wrote: »

Very freaky if it's actually true.

I very much doubt that the very first thing a 2 year old child asks for is a glass of water, given the surroundings he was in. Chances are this is publicity of some sort. The parents will probably write a book in the future and make some cash out of it.

My name is URL

cambo2008 wrote: »

Educated guess

So, just a guess then?

As troubling and unbelievable as it may seem, doctors sometimes prematurely and incorrectly pronounce people dead.

Although only a handful of such cases have appeared in the literature, there has been speculation that the Lazarus phenomenon occurs more often than those few reports would suggest (5). Possible explanations for the reluctance to report these cases include: 1) a concern regarding medicolegal ramifications, 2) a fear of being criticized for negligence or hyperbole, 3) the lack of a satisfying physiologic explanation for the events, 4) the lack of complete documentation or monitoring of the event, and 5) the physician’s disbelief of his or her own observations.

http://www.anesthesia-analgesia.org/content/92/3/690.short

celtictiger32

MisterEpicurus wrote: »

I very much doubt that the very first thing a 2 year old child asks for is a glass of water, given the surroundings he was in. Chances are this is publicity of some sort. The parents will probably write a book in the future and make some cash out of it.

what would he ask 'did brazil win the copa america?'

seamus

My name is URL wrote: »

I dunno, but I've heard of similar things happening

http://voices.yahoo.com/dead-woman-comes-back-life-1492963.html

I love this quote;

the family states that they "turned her over to Jesus" and that is when the miracle happened.

So they turned her over to Jesus, but Jesus sent her back again :pac:

In the OP, it's definitely not beyond the realms of possibility that the boy was actually alive all night during the wake and only died the next morning after waking up.

Interesting notelet; in Ireland and the UK around the nineteenth century it became more fashionable to have shorter wakes and quicker burials rather than to have a body lying in state for a week or more. Since there was less ability to properly tell death in those times, most people knew someone who knew of someone who awoke from death while being waked.

So people became paranoid that with the shorter burial time, they may be more prone to being buried alive and there derived a custom of burying someone with a rope hanging inside the casket, attached to a bell on the surface. You would assign someone to watch over the grave in case the bell rang (allegedly the origin of "graveyard shift").
When the bell rang, you'd be dug up. In some cases, the "deceased's" family would have difficulty accepting their return and would believe that the person was actually a stranger - a doppleganger for their loved one - or a "dead ringer".

Noteletlet; In the US, there was a scam in horse racing where a strong horse would be signed up to a race with a different trainer, jockey and name so that the bookies wouldn't know anything about the horse and would assign it poorer odds.
The bookies would remark that the horse was a (dead) "ringer" for the other horse, hence why in the US a "ringer" is a competitor who is suspiciously much better than they've let on.

Will I Amnt

My name is URL wrote: »

So, just a guess then?

As troubling and unbelievable as it may seem, doctors sometimes prematurely and incorrectly pronounce people dead.

Nah,it's definitely an educated guess.
Mentioning the incompetence of the hospital yet only delaying the funeral by an hour to see if he would wake up would suggest all is not as they make it out to be.

MisterEpicurus

celtictiger32 wrote: »

what would he ask 'did brazil win the copa america?'

Even that's more likely than a baby asking for water.

celtictiger32

http://www.youtube.com/embed/Aatlliinymw?rel=0"frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

maybe??

Sierra 117

Battered Mars Bar wrote: »

I remember years back some remote island had people waking up from the "dead" all the time. They had bells fitted in the graves eventually incase anyone else woke up. T'was some disease that slowed their heart, pulse etc and gave the illusion that they were dead to an untrained eye or a hasty doctor. Very plausible that the kid wasn't dead at all to begin with. Hope they got it right the second time :pac:

That reminds me of a creepypasta based around that:

Coffins used to be built with holes in them, attached to six feet of copper tubing and a bell. The tubing would allow air for victims buried under the mistaken impression they were dead. Harold, the Oakdale gravedigger, upon hearing a bell, went to go see if it was children pretending to be spirits. Sometimes it was also the wind. This time it wasn’t either. A voice from below begged, pleaded to be unburied.
“You Sarah O’Bannon?”
“Yes!” the voice assured.
“You were born on September 17, 1827?”
“Yes!”
“The gravestone here says you died on February 19?”
“No I’m alive, it was a mistake! Dig me up, set me free!”
“Sorry about this, ma’am,” Harold said, stepping on the bell to silence it and plugging up the copper tube with dirt. “But this is August. Whatever you is down there, you ain’t alive no more, and you ain’t comin’ up.”

Paparazzo

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

I had a hamster who did that

You could hear his crys from inside your ass?

DEFTLEFTHAND

Lazarus syndrome as its called is a extremely rare condition and has only been recorded a handful of times in medical history. In this case the boy was declared dead for 12 hours+ before he allegedly woke, in the recorded cases the victims all began to show signs of life again shortly after been pronounced dead, no more than 3 hours according to the report I'm reading.

Then again this condition is rare and is not well understood or recognisable even among members of the medical profession so who's to say something couldn't have happened. However if the parents were really in so much doubt they should not have buried the boy and sought a second medical opinion.

oddman2

seamus wrote: »

Interesting notelet; in Ireland and the UK around the nineteenth century it became more fashionable to have shorter wakes and quicker burials rather than to have a body lying in state for a week or more. Since there was less ability to properly tell death in those times, most people knew someone who knew of someone who awoke from death while being waked.

So people became paranoid that with the shorter burial time, they may be more prone to being buried alive and there derived a custom of burying someone with a rope hanging inside the casket, attached to a bell on the surface. You would assign someone to watch over the grave in case the bell rang (allegedly the origin of "graveyard shift").
When the bell rang, you'd be dug up. In some cases, the "deceased's" family would have difficulty accepting their return and would believe that the person was actually a stranger - a doppleganger for their loved one - or a "dead ringer".

Not so sure about that...